10-30-2006, 04:22 PM
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lovely...lovely...lovely...
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10-30-2006, 04:22 PM
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lovely...lovely...lovely...
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10-30-2006, 10:39 PM
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Great stuff "Next-Saturday." Love that name! Seems like Gord was saddled with having to play an "Ovation" guitar there. I remember reading an article once that about the airlines flattening his "Martin." but can't be sure about the date. The photo shows a powerful image. Many thanks, Ron Jones
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10-31-2006, 05:30 PM
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Gord and an Ovation 12. Whoa that's news to me!
Wonder if it was unique to this tour, to replace a damaged Martin, or stolen Gibson? Maybe just needed for the amplification.
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10-31-2006, 06:40 PM
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hunka hunka burnin' love
Nice find, Next Saturday. Kudos to you.
How do you folks find this stuff? I dig pretty deep and even use the advanced searches on the search engines; still find stuff posted here occasionally that I've never come across. Interesting...
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11-01-2006, 01:44 PM
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He's playing an Ovation guitar in this picture -- guess he didn't want to risk overseas travel with his good axes!
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11-01-2006, 02:41 PM
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Actually he's playing a rental. There are links to some companion articles at the bottom of the page: http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?a...4&archive=true
From the S&S archives:
Lightfoot tired but applauded
By Dan Warfield, Stars and Stripes
European edition, Saturday, June 26, 1976
Playing on borrowed instruments, a tired Gordon Lightfoot and band put out an hour and a half of well-received music Thursday night in Offenbach. The first day of a three-day schedule which included Munich and Montreux, Switzerland, was marred by some airline problems.
"I was thinking seriously about cancelling this gig tonight," said Lightfoot after the show. "Flying out of New York we had the engine fall off two different planes." The third flight made it, but without their baggage.
"It was a very large problem," said Lightfoot. "Normally I play a 12-string. Pee Wee Charles spent about two hours putting that (pedal) steel (guitar) together. Other than that we were just kinda out to lunch — we've been up for 36 hours."
Mimi Fariña, taking a break from Bread & Roses, her Marin Co., Calif., venture which brings music entertainment into prisons, convalescent homes, juvenile homes and other institutions, is touring with Lightfoot.
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11-01-2006, 02:41 PM
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Actually he's playing a rental. There are links to some companion articles at the bottom of the page: http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?a...4&archive=true
From the S&S archives:
Lightfoot tired but applauded
By Dan Warfield, Stars and Stripes
European edition, Saturday, June 26, 1976
Playing on borrowed instruments, a tired Gordon Lightfoot and band put out an hour and a half of well-received music Thursday night in Offenbach. The first day of a three-day schedule which included Munich and Montreux, Switzerland, was marred by some airline problems.
"I was thinking seriously about cancelling this gig tonight," said Lightfoot after the show. "Flying out of New York we had the engine fall off two different planes." The third flight made it, but without their baggage.
"It was a very large problem," said Lightfoot. "Normally I play a 12-string. Pee Wee Charles spent about two hours putting that (pedal) steel (guitar) together. Other than that we were just kinda out to lunch — we've been up for 36 hours."
Mimi Fariña, taking a break from Bread & Roses, her Marin Co., Calif., venture which brings music entertainment into prisons, convalescent homes, juvenile homes and other institutions, is touring with Lightfoot.
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11-01-2006, 02:54 PM
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He had been in London a couple of weeks before this picture was taken and had talked about the European gigs and the engines falling off the planes. Our Gord was never too keen on flying.
There are some great photos of him taken around this time. '... girls running their fingers through my curls ...' *Sigh*
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11-01-2006, 06:19 PM
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Actually and speaking as an ex-Rolls-Royce aircraft engine engineer,No matter what Gord believed had happenned , it is excedingly rare to find instances of "the engines falling off the planes",
Sure in the early days of Boeing 707s, DC8's and Convair 990s the initial designs of the engine mounting pylons may have been too weak (the pylons are in fact designed to break at a certain excessive load anyway to avoid tearing the wings off)
I have just googled for "engine fell off aeroplane" and amongst the 4 milion results I found yet another interesting and relevant article on the BBC site regarding an incident in 2001
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1652772.stm
although this actually refers to the New York crash of an Airbus 300 when in fact the vertical fin and rudder broke off

flight 587's fin
and a Rolls-Royce Conway did apparently fall off a BOAC Boeing 707 in 1962 see:-
http://aviation-safety.net/database/...0408-0&lang=en
and American airlines Flight 191 crashed on May 25 1979
in the deadliest acccident on US soil until 9/11

Flight 191, its No. 1 engine severed on the runway,
in an unrecoverable bank just moments
before the crash.
but I expect the incidents Gord suffered were much more likely to have been purely an engine failure or an abnormal instrument reading before take off requiring an engine change, Fortuneately engine failures and problems have greatly diminished since those days
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11-01-2006, 06:19 PM
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Actually and speaking as an ex-Rolls-Royce aircraft engine engineer,No matter what Gord believed had happenned , it is excedingly rare to find instances of "the engines falling off the planes",
Sure in the early days of Boeing 707s, DC8's and Convair 990s the initial designs of the engine mounting pylons may have been too weak (the pylons are in fact designed to break at a certain excessive load anyway to avoid tearing the wings off)
I have just googled for "engine fell off aeroplane" and amongst the 4 milion results I found yet another interesting and relevant article on the BBC site regarding an incident in 2001
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1652772.stm
although this actually refers to the New York crash of an Airbus 300 when in fact the vertical fin and rudder broke off

flight 587's fin
and a Rolls-Royce Conway did apparently fall off a BOAC Boeing 707 in 1962 see:-
http://aviation-safety.net/database/...0408-0&lang=en
and American airlines Flight 191 crashed on May 25 1979
in the deadliest acccident on US soil until 9/11

Flight 191, its No. 1 engine severed on the runway,
in an unrecoverable bank just moments
before the crash.
but I expect the incidents Gord suffered were much more likely to have been purely an engine failure or an abnormal instrument reading before take off requiring an engine change, Fortuneately engine failures and problems have greatly diminished since those days
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11-01-2006, 06:23 PM
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I heard it was engine fires in 2 separate planes that caused the planes to return to the New York airport. They eventually arrived overseas, and had to do set-up and sound check with no sleep...incidents like that make for pretty cranky travelers!
lol
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11-01-2006, 06:23 PM
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I heard it was engine fires in 2 separate planes that caused the planes to return to the New York airport. They eventually arrived overseas, and had to do set-up and sound check with no sleep...incidents like that make for pretty cranky travelers!
lol
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11-01-2006, 07:00 PM
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yeh and in those days he could be pretty cranky. He was not the Gord we know today.
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