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Old 04-23-2009, 04:16 PM   #1
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/0..._n_187216.html
 
BF: Who are some of your favorite songwriters?
BD: Buffett I guess. Lightfoot. Warren Zevon. Randy. John Prine. Guy Clark. Those kinds of writers
BF: You and Lightfoot go way back.
BD: Oh yeah. Gordo's been around as long as me.
BF: What are your favorite songs of his?
BD: "Shadows," "Sundown," "If You Could Read My Mind." I can't think of any I don't like

BF: A lot of the acts from your generation seem to be trading on nostalgia. They play the same songs the same way for the last 30 years. Why haven't you ever done that? BD: I couldn't if I tried. Those guys you are talking about all had conspicuous hits. They started out anti-establishment and now they are in charge of the world. Celebratory songs. Music for the grand dinner party. Mainstream stuff that played into the culture on a pervasive level. My stuff is different from those guys. It's more desperate. Daltrey, Townshend, McCartney, the Beach Boys, Elton, Billy Joel. They made perfect records, so they have to play them perfectly ... exactly the way people remember them. My records were never perfect. So there is no point in trying to duplicate them. Anyway, I'm no mainstream artist.


Another Dylan favorite is the Canadian songwriter Gordon Lightfoot. "Gordo's been around as long as me," Dylan said. He notes the songs "Shadows," "Sundown," and "If You Could Read My Mind" as his favorites, but adds, "I can't think of any I don't like."
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Old 04-24-2009, 04:40 PM   #2
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jf, you're not being ignored, the article and discussion is on the next page of threads from around mid April

bob's 'perfect record' is an odd rationale...his live melodies alone generally don't even come close to resembling those recorded or written...when it comes down to songwriting, the melody foremost 'is' the song...when i saw him, i didn't even recognize Like a Rolling Stone until the tag

oh no, i've got a parody version of bob singing Shadows in my head...it's got a similar delivery to his Not Supposed to Care

all ribbing aside, bob's got good taste...and rm, i do think he'd do a hell of a cover of CYC

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Old 04-24-2009, 05:14 PM   #3
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bob's got good taste...and rm, i do think he'd do a hell of a cover of CYC
Well.....he couldn't make it any worse.

That got me to thinking........maybe for the next tournament we could have matchups of "worst cover of a Lightfoot Tune". I caught a glimpse of this potential contender rather recently :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLXVTeEfkTU
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Old 04-24-2009, 05:35 PM   #4
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maybe for the next tournament we could have matchups of "worst cover of a Lightfoot Tune". I caught a glimpse of this potential contender rather recently :
oh, i would make it "pro" versions only (celeb artists deserve to be put upon the tomato tossin' platter) ... what if some of these amateur folks are members here and see themselves crack the top ten in the polls....but, yeah, that was a doozey

at least this gal can recognize crap when she sees (plays) it YouTube - Baby Step Back


do Babs and Wiseman get automatic buys to the 'pro' finale?

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Old 04-24-2009, 05:43 PM   #5
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Ow! My ears!

I am having a hard time thinking that these folks recorded thos and then say back and said "I should pu this on Youtube so the entire world can see and hear!"

For this I bought a new hard drive?
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Old 04-24-2009, 06:19 PM   #6
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Ow! My ears!

I am having a hard time thinking that these folks recorded thos and then say back and said "I should pu this on Youtube so the entire world can see and hear!"
MaryJane may be the seducer. It probably sounded good to them at the time. That's the way that siren works.
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Old 04-24-2009, 06:28 PM   #7
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oh, i would make it "pro" versions only (celeb artists deserve to be put upon the tomato tossin' platter) ... what if some of these amateur folks are members here and see themselves crack the top ten in the polls
Good point.

We may just have to pass the issue on to the Supreme Court.......

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Old 04-24-2009, 06:31 PM   #8
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while it would be so much more fun to have a free for all and include the earnest efforts of the amateurs I'd have to lean towards the listing of PRO covers only.
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Old 04-24-2009, 11:02 PM   #9
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here's old zimmy doing I'm not supposed to care, back in 1998. I think it was in Toronto.

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Old 04-25-2009, 11:42 AM   #10
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That was a Very nice version of "Baby Step Back" the young lady posted in my opinion. It is nice to hear that song performed with just an acoustic guitar and vocals. She has a nice and soulful voice and did not use a lot of oversaturating processing/reverb (that so many of the you-tubers do). It is great to see a young person who appreciates Gord's music as well.
Hopefully, this place will be a place of encouragement for aspiring musicians instead of one that derides. Afterall, I have not seen/heard anyone that posts here who sounds like a young Gordon Lightfoot, Frank Sinatra or Joan Baez. - Love and kisses as always!
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Old 04-25-2009, 11:55 AM   #11
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do Babs and Wiseman get automatic buys to the 'pro' finale?
I dare to presume that what James is alluding to is a “bye” as in cricket or other sporting fixture where the contestant does not have to perform to win the point
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Old 04-25-2009, 12:19 PM   #12
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here's old zimmy doing I'm not supposed to care, back in 1998. I think it was in Toronto.

Thanks for posting that video Mende
For anybody curious as I was as to why the video he selected has the title
"AVSEQ4" this almost certainly signifies that it was the fourth track on a VCD (Video CD) made from a selection of video files in VCD compliant MPEG-1 format. . When burnt onto a blank CD-R the VCD protocol creates a folder named MPEGAV which will contain each Audio/Video track as a SEQuence of DAT format files starting at AVSEQ001.dat so the uploader probably ripped the AVSEQ005.dat file from a VCD then retitled it AVSEQ04
For once I have to agree with the comment by Adha4
Thanks for sharing this lovely rendition, so heartfelt and sincere, I love it.
I know that as recently reported Bob never sings anything the same as usual, but having heard his INSTC on other mp3s such as the one used on this youtube video

and being singularly unimpressed this Toronto performance on 29 October 1998 like the man said it is really quite something special
And dig those crazy white striped trousers (oops “pants”)
I still remember the thrill of hearing an early Dylan album at my first ever après ski party in the Laurentians near Montreal sometime in January 1965. I was bowled over by it
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That was a Very nice version of "Baby Step Back" the young lady posted in my opinion. Bill Hall
Yes Bill she almost, but not quite, made me like the song.
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RM, thanks for posting the link to "It's Worth Believin' ". Alongside it was a link to Susan Boyle, I decided to give that a whirl instead, and was blown away to see that it had 43,887,645 views. That many views in such a short space of time, unbelievable.
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jf, you're not being ignored, the article and discussion is on the next page of threads from around mid April
Absolutely correct Jimmy. Apologies everybody
I had missed that thread entirely as also I seem to have missed this posting by RM:-
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Hopefully, this place will be a place of encouragement for aspiring musicians instead of one that derides.
Mr. Hall,

You are absolutely correct. Bless all those who enjoy Lightfoot's music, and those who are so taken with it that they take the time to learn it themselves.

I dunno......maybe I assumed all Lightfoot fans possess common sense. That theory has been blown to heck......
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That was a Very nice version of "Baby Step Back" the young lady posted in my opinion. It is nice to hear that song performed with just an acoustic guitar and vocals. She has a nice and soulful voice and did not use a lot of oversaturating processing/reverb

hi Bill, hope all's well! not sure if you've gotten into youtube much or have an account (we do all wish ) but you can add comments under each video...if you pasted your above text to the gal who performed BSB (no secret, not in my top 200 GL song list but 'crap' is overly harsh, i apologize, Gord) I'll bet she would be encouraged...i could try listen endlessly and never label it as nice or very nice or soulful but i'm so glad we all differ in taste...i do love that she had fun and can't make sense of her other 3 videos just yet...also, no secret, i love altered arrangements of GL tunes...if she heard some of the more interesting ones she might change her tune...but sincerely, BSB is a good tune for Gord to keep in the live show, the majority of the crowd are groovin and tappin their toes...whereas the minority, lie myself could listen to 90 minutes solid of the more sedate selections and never yawn at all

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rm, makes enough blunders, we don't need to be blaming him for mine

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hi Bill, hope all's well! not sure if you've gotten into youtube much or have an account

Hi Jim,
How are you doing Pal? I doing am well thanks. I did comment on youtube to that young ladies site about her rendition which is really a cool one. I guess another thought on all of this is to consider if she was your daughter how would you feel if a bunch of so called adults started making fun of her fine efforts for no reason. Not good about it I am sure.
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I did comment on youtube to that young ladies site about her rendition which is really a cool one.

that's gonna make her day, very sweet, yet sincere of you, Bill...i hope she's inspired to continue and perhaps 'write' and then publish something more when the time is right

i really think she's got an intriguing setting there...i don't know if it's a trailer or what...i love the tilted clock

digesting your food for thought, thanks Bill...keep well

...now can i get back to jeering my elders (ie. Dylan)?
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Who's the 'Randy' he speaks of?
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Old 04-26-2009, 12:30 PM   #21
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Randy Newman

http://www.americansongwriter.com/20...e-songwriters/
man, it looks like Prine has moved to Whoville....
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Old 04-26-2009, 02:05 PM   #22
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In the interview Dylan mentions Prine's tune "Lake Marie".

It's from the album "Lost Dogs And Mixed Blessings".

Here's a nice version of it. On this night, Prine and his cohorts get to SSSSSSizzlin'' (you'd have to hear the album version to understand)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Exr-DOWJ3A0

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Old 04-27-2009, 12:55 PM   #23
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i personally like it when a crowd is subdued and not hootin and hollerin during narrative song performances...that's if i'm at a paid sit down event...if it's at a tavern, well, what do you expect

yea, i dunno of many words with stronger connotative meaning than sizzle or sharp, enhanced further by the drawn out sssss....wonderful phrases and waterfront imagery, no matter how disjointed the poetry appears on the 'surface'

my university room mate was a Prine freak...on overload of Prine spinning in our residence may have been the cause of redirecting my major interest from math to more subjective studies

this classic Lake tune had my perpetually humming mind segue into Down by the River...interesting words here by Young which i believe are universal to not just Dylan and he but any songwriter (regarding the 'force' which sprouts and drives the creation of a song)

YouTube - Neil Young on Bob Dylan
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