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Old 09-27-2010, 06:48 PM   #26
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Default Re: Guitarists: which songs does/did he play with capo in 3rd position?

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capo fret and actual key
when ready, matt's 'capo position' list will be helpful in validating these


KEY GTR TITLE[capo]
Ab G Anything For Love[1]
Ab G I'll Be Alright[1]
Ab G Redwood Hill[1]
Bb A Nous Vivons Ensemble[1]
Bbm Am A Minor Ballad[1]
C# C Steel Rail Blues[1]
C# C High And Dry[1]
C# C Ordinary Man[1]
Eb D Brave Mountaineers[1]
Eb D Fine As Fine Can Be[1]
Eb D Looking At The Rain[1]
Eb D Mama Said[1]
Ebm Dm Crossroads[1]
A G You Are What I Am[2]
A G The House You Live In[2]
A G You'll Still Be Needing Me[2]
A G Somewhere U.S.A.[2]
A G Christian Island[2]
A G The Patriot's Dream[2]
A G Drifters[2]
A G Me And Bobby McGee[2]
A G Sit Down Young Stranger[2]
A G Song For A Winter's Night[2]
A G Mother Of A Miner's Child[2]
A G End Of All Time[2]
A G If You Could Read My Mind[2]
A G The Pony Man[2]
A G If Children Had Wings[2]
A G Cotton Jenny[2]
A G Borderstone[2]
A G The Watchman's Gone[2]
A G I'll Tag Along[2]
A G Hangdog Hotel Room[2]
A G Cold Hands From New York[2]
A G Never Too Close[2]
A G Stay Loose[2]
A G Spanish Moss[2]
A G Drink Yer Glasses Empty[2]
A G Welcome To Try[2]
A G Go Go Round[2]
A G Cobwebs & Dust[2]
A G The Long River[2]
A G Red Velvet[2]
A G Go My Way[2]
B A A Message To The Wind[2]
B A My Pony Won't Go[2]
B A The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald[2]
B A Daylight Katy[2]
B A Restless[2]
B A Beautiful[2]
B A The Last Time I Saw Her[2]
B A A Passing Ship[2]
B A All The Lovely Ladies[2]
B A Blackberry Wine[2]
B A That Same Old Obsession[2]
B A Seven Island Suite[2]
B A Why Should I Feel Blue[2]
B A Does Your Mother Know[2]
B A The Soul Is The Rock[2]
B A Too Many Clues In This Room[2]
B A Morning Glory[2]
B A Don Quixote[2]
B A My Little Love[2]
B A Rainy Day People[2]
B A The Lost Children[2]
B A If There's A Reason[2]
B A The No Hotel[2]
B A All I'm After[2]
B A Softly[2]
B A Slide On Over[2]
Bm Am No Mistake About It[2]
Bm Am Make Way For The Lady[2]
Bm Am Peaceful Waters[2]
Bm Am Couchiching[2]
Bm Am Keepin' On Yearning[2]
Bm Am Shellfish[2]
Bm Am Ode To Big Blue[2]
Bm Am Rosanna[2]
Bm Am Ballad of Yarmouth Castle[2]
Bm Am Miguel[2]
Bm Am Fading Away[2]
D C I'd Rather Press On[2]
D C Dreamland[2]
D C Summertime Dream[2]
D C Talking In Your Sleep[2]
D C Clouds Of Loneliness[2]
D C Home From The Forest[2]
D C I Used To be A Country Singer[2]
D C Now And Then[2]
D C Saturday Clothes[2]
D C Summer Side Of Life[2]
D C It's Worth Believin'[2]
D C Too Late For Prayin'[2]
D C Walls[2]
D C Same Old Loverman[2]
D C Harmony[2]
D C On Susan's Floor[2]
D C Ghosts Of Cape Horn[2]
D C A Lesson In Love[2]
D C Can't Depend On Love[2]
D C I'll Prove My Love[2]
D C Shadows[2]
D C Rich Man's Spiritual[2]
D C Hey You[2]
E D Betty Called Me In[2]
E D Someone To Believe In[2]
E D For Lovin' Me[2]
E D If You Need Me[2]
E D Inspiration Lady[2]
E D Leaves of Grass[2]
E D Minstrel Of The Dawn[2]
E D Stone Cold Sober[2]
E D 10 Degrees and Getting Colder[2]
E D Approaching Lavender[2]
E D Sweet Guinevere[2]
E D Second Cup Of Coffee[2]
E D Changes[2]
E D Baby It's Allright[2]
E D East Of Midnight[2]
E D Triangle[2]
E D Wild Strawberries[2]
E D I'm Not Sayin'[2]
E D Lazy Mornin'[2]
E D Sometimes I Don't Mind[2]
E D Lifeline[2]
E D Race Among The Ruins[2]
E D Sometimes I Wish[2]
E D The List[2]
E D Sixteen Miles[2]
E D Ring Them Bells[2]
E D Boss Man[2]
E D Long Way Back Home[2]
E D Forgive Me Lord[2]
E D Rainbow Trout[2]
E D Spin Spin[2]
E D Poor Little Allison[2]
E D A Painter Passing Through[2]
E D If I Could[2]
E D Alberta Bound[2]
E D Your Love's Return[2]
E D Carefree Highway[2]
E D May I[2]
E D If It Should Please You[2]
Em Dm The Way I Feel[2]
Em Dm Flyin' Blind[2]
Em Dm Cabaret[2]
Em Dm Always On The Bright Side[2]
F# E Baby Step Back[2]
F# E Uncle Toad Said[2]
F# E I'd Do It Again[2]
F# E Ecstasy Made Easy[2]
F# E Long Thin Dawn[2]
F# E River Of Light[2]
F# E Let It Ride[2]
F# E Knotty Pine[2]
F# E In My Fashion[2]
F# E Sea Of Tranquility[2]
F# E Only Love Would Know[2]
F# E Sundown[2]
F# E Bend In The Water[2]
F# E Boathouse[2]
F# E Waiting For You[2]
F#m Em On Yonge Street[2]
F#m Em Pride Of Man[2]
F#m Em Songs The Minstrel Sang[2]
F#m Em Cherokee Bend[2]
F#m Em Endless Wire[2]
F#m Em Affair On 8th Avenue[2]
F#m Em Is There Anyone Home[2]
F#m Em Black Day In July[2]
F#m Em Love and Maple Syrup [2]
F#m Em 14 Karat Gold[2]
Bb G Much To My Surprise[3]
Bb G On The High Seas[3]
Bb G Too Much To Lose[3]
C A I'm Not Supposed To Care[3]
C A Mister Rock Of Ages[3]
C A The Gypsy[3]
Cm Am Thank You For The Promises[3]
Cm Am Whispers Of The North[3]
Eb C I'll Do Anything[3]
Eb C The Circle Is Small[3]
F D A Tree Too Weak To Stand[3]
F D Bells Of The Evening[3]
F D Bitter Green[3]
F D Canadian Railroad Trilogy[3]
F D Circle Of Steel[3]
F D Dream Street Rose[3]
F D Early Mornin' Rain[3]
F D Highway Songs[3]
F D I Want To Hear It From You[3]
F D If You Got It[3]
F D Mountains And Marian[3]
F D Ringneck Loon[3]
F D She's Not The Same[3]
F D Wherefore And Why[3]
G E Cold On The Shoulder[3]
G E Farewell To Annabel[3]
G E Old Dan's Records[3]
G E Whisper My Name[3]
Gm Em Don't Beat Me Down[3]
Gm Em Pussy Willows, Cat Tails[3]
F# D Heaven Help The Devil[4]
F# D The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face[4]
Dm Am Protocol[5]
C C Unsettled Ways
D D Magnificent Outpouring
D D Ribbon Of Darkness
E E Oh, Linda
Em Em Marie Christine
G G Did She Mention My Name
G G Never Say Trust Me


didn't have all tunes handy so if any missing let me know and send link to mp3 or youtube sampler

this could be useful for bassists and keyboard players and perhaps linked under the songs section in homepage...guitar key is in second column with [capo fret position] following song title column, enjoy

char, there is another 'key signature thread' that can be deleted...i'm concluding that most folks are not interested in either of these anyhow, lol

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Old 09-27-2010, 07:35 PM   #27
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Going to see him in Oct so I'll see what he does on his present repertoire and let you know. I'm finding myself using the capo more now as the voice range shrinks. Gord may be doing the same??
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Old 09-27-2010, 08:34 PM   #28
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Going to see him in Oct so I'll see what he does on his present repertoire and let you know. I'm finding myself using the capo more now as the voice range shrinks. Gord may be doing the same??
interesting, i thought that he still had the depth but was restricted in the higher register...that's why i figured ridding or moving the capo lower would be beneficial...but maybe it is the bottom end that's more typically lost as folks get older

looking forward to your show report, have fun

btw, what i've listed is from studio recordings.. i believe they key was altered in a few on GG series and certainly on his more recent and current tour sets
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Old 09-27-2010, 10:08 PM   #29
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you're a step ahead of me :-) -- i pulled out the guitar and got through "I" yesterday... "J" on to the end this week.
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Old 09-28-2010, 10:35 AM   #30
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good stuff, matt

as john stinson pointed out, many were not in A440 tuning..what a headache

for those wanting to know which were recorded on the 12 string, here is the ultimate source:

http://www.lightfoot.ca/twelve.htm

btw, in an earlier thread someone stated that GL now plays CRT in E...not true
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Old 09-28-2010, 04:20 PM   #31
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I've caught Gord in concert this year and last year. The capos didn't move. D-18 stayed at 2 and the Gibsons were at 2 and 3. Just as they are on the Live at Reno DVD.

While this discussion is interesting, I believe those that want to play guitar on Gord's songs should try and stick with what fits their vocal range and favorite fingering patterns first.

Fingerstyle playing a song in A, but in G at the 2nd fret, provides fingering choices that just aren't there for open A. There was a thread here, within the last year, showing a photo of Gord from the interactive TV show playing an A chord with using the first finger only across the strings. I've always played the A chord the same way and got quite a chuckle from the "3-finger A" folks. Playing a song in standard A and using 3 fingers to play the chord really limits any augmentation of the chord for a song. You've only got 1 finger left. While you use 3 fingers to play a standard G chord, the fingering is more open, spread across all 6 strings, and makes hammer-on and lift off notes much easier to do. So A in G with the capo at the 2nd fret makes lots of sense.

But, to each his own. What ever you're comfortable with.

Then there's the point someone else touched on regarding a capo that's up a fret or two, puts the frets closer together and can change the way you play a song too. For a player with small hands, that could be just the trick.

Finally, the capo figures a lot when performing with other players. Those who will soon see a concert, watch Terry. He's moving capos on his acoustic and electric a lot. While I can't say this is why Terry does it, often having one guitar capoed and the other "open" creates a much nicer blend of notes and a better variety of sound. That was often the case in my gigging days.

So, capo moves can be for lots of different things. If you want to try and play it as Gord and crew do, JJ's list is a great help. Thanks, JJ. If you want to give a different shot, try that too. Its all fun.
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Old 09-28-2010, 05:04 PM   #32
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agree with everything mike posted (well this past post anyhow, lol)...as stated earlier, these keys are based on studio recordings so current live show may differ here and there for GL's practical purposes)

just a note: i never played in GL keys (at jams or along with LPs) ever until last week so that's why i got onto this as a reference...i usually would have a tune in my mind from an earlier listen and then when a guitar or piano was handy i would land on D or G or A, C perhaps, cos there's good muscle memory there and that's usually where campfire guitarists will end up and there are no capos up here at campfires or cool farmhouses or cabins cos between the nip of the night air and the dry heat of the fire or woodstove, being nice to the strings and neck doesn't not include putting on those clamps, lol

there have ben beginner jams where everything is played (GL or otherwise) in the key of G major (C D Am Bm Em A etc) or E minor ....it keeps things moving along

we will throw on a capo 3rd fret and play in E with others playing without capo in G to get that voicing variety you spoke of mike...there are many options there (C+2 D, A+3 C, etc)....a good question would be what tunes do GL and Terry have alt capo positioning between the two of them...for instance, SFAWN

anyhow, GL tunes and my limited range don't mix so if I had my way I would probably transpose to a key that's about 1/2 an octave from GL's...ie, if he plays in G with capo+2, i am probably playing in D...it's unfortunate but it's also lead to some good mental exercises over the years

reviewing the list i've confirmed my ear is partial to the tone of certain keys

lastly, for beginners, i would encourage trying to form chords (eg. G) using your little finger instead of ring finger when possible as it opens doors for some noodling...same with piano or keyboard, get your pinky dexterity happening before the muscle memory of bad habits become hard to forget
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lastly, for beginners, i would encourage trying to form chords (eg. G) using your little finger instead of ring finger when possible as it opens doors for some noodling...same with piano or keyboard, get your pinky dexterity happening before the muscle memory of bad habits become hard to forget
Very good advice. That pinky is key to loads of fun.
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