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Old 11-12-2007, 12:23 PM   #1
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I've become aware of http://www.sugarmegs.org. There's a lot of Gord material there, some of which is VERY vintage and rare. One file in particular is 32 tracks of circa '64-'66 Warner Bros. demos. I'd never heard ANY of this stuff before. The site is friendly to non-techies(hell, I figured it out!). There is no registration required, and the material is downloadable.
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Old 11-12-2007, 12:44 PM   #2
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Thanks for the info, enjoying that site.
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Old 11-12-2007, 01:39 PM   #3
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Great find Paul !! It'll take a while to listen to all of the material, but I can't think of a more enjoyable task.
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Old 11-12-2007, 05:48 PM   #4
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Thank's Paul Farnham, this is super vintage Lightfoot.


http://tela.sugarmegs.org/_asxtela/a...5WB_Demos.html


gordonlightfoot1964-66demos.asx

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Old 11-12-2007, 10:12 PM   #5
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is it just me, or is it not possible to download the .asx files?
I just get streaming audio.
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Old 11-13-2007, 09:01 AM   #6
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It's not just you Peter, that .asx file can only play the tracks. I simply put it there to listen to it. Sorry for this I should have put this on testforum. If you went to the site {Sugarmegs.org} you must have seen a total of 10 Lightfoot concerts, some you and I already have like Soundstage & Red Rocks.

Im hoping someone with better computer knowledge than me will make them available so we can download them.

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Old 11-13-2007, 10:07 AM   #7
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Hey guys! I figured the files were downloadable because the fella who told me about sugarmegs gave me a CD burn of the '64-'66 Warner Bros. demos that he had somehow captured from that site (with the tracks separated, no less). I'll shoot him an email and try to find out how he did that.
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Old 11-13-2007, 10:13 AM   #8
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Many thank's Paul,
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Old 11-13-2007, 11:39 AM   #9
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Isn't the internet neat? Stuff that would have been lost to the ages is able to be shared.
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Old 11-13-2007, 02:27 PM   #10
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Neat indeed Bill...
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Old 11-13-2007, 04:23 PM   #11
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A very clever fellow who wishes to remain anonymous has solved the mystery and unearthed the following link: http://tela.sugarmegs.org/darkstar/ It's a link to downloadable wma files. I've not tried it yet. Only 5 of the Lightfoot shows appear to be available, but one of them looks like the mid-60's WB demos. BTW I'm posting the link with the anonymous clever fellow's permission.
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Old 11-13-2007, 05:03 PM   #12
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Ok guys! Tried that darkstar link and it DOES work. I successfully downloaded the '06 Massey show. Took half an hour on high speed cable. I don't recommend that particular show because it's clearly an audience recording and the band is barely audible at full speaker volume. I DO recommend snatching those WB demos though! It's the Dead Sea Scrolls of Lightheaddom!
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Old 11-13-2007, 05:44 PM   #13
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Ok guys! Tried that darkstar link and it DOES work. I successfully downloaded the '06 Massey show. Took half an hour on high speed cable. I don't recommend that particular show because it's clearly an audience recording and the band is barely audible at full speaker volume. I DO recommend snatching those WB demos though! It's the Dead Sea Scrolls of Lightheaddom!
Glad to hear it worked (I've never enjoyed being a guinea pig). However, the Massey Hall performance might be of interest to those here who were in attendance that night. They might be able to decipher their own clapping or whistling.
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Old 11-13-2007, 05:55 PM   #14
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Wow, what a site. Thanks so much for bringing it to our attention.
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Old 11-13-2007, 11:40 PM   #15
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I DO recommend snatching those WB demos though! It's the Dead Sea Scrolls of Lightheaddom!
Amen brother Paul!!!!

Okay boys and girls, anyone want to chime in on how to convert a wma file to mp3? and while you're at it, what would be the best way to break these apart into seperate tracks? I can break apart wav files in Audacity pretty easy, then convert to mp3 with CDex... but what to do with a single massive wma???

BTW, I did do a sound/audio capture on the 68' Filmore West/Wolfgang's Vault offering. Selected to output wav and did the breakapart in Audacity... Worked out quite nicely!
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Old 11-14-2007, 06:24 AM   #16
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Thanks Paul, great stuff !

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Old 11-14-2007, 10:29 AM   #17
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You're quite welcome, everyone! Glad to finally have had the opportunity to be a contributor of information after having been a grateful recipient thereof for all this time!
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Old 11-14-2007, 01:42 PM   #18
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Thanks for the treasure trove. He's one of the few performers I've ever seen that sounded as good (if not better) in concert than his recordings. Some people you see in concert & they can't maintain the quality (?) that they come up with in the studio. But a true artist can do it live. And we all know Lightfoot's a true artist. Thanks again for the heads up on this site & the download info.
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Old 11-14-2007, 04:06 PM   #19
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Amen brother Paul!!!!
Okay boys and girls, anyone want to chime in on how to convert a wma file to mp3? and while you're at it, what would be the best way to break these apart into seperate tracks? I can break apart wav files in Audacity pretty easy, then convert to mp3 with CDex... but what to do with a single massive wma???
OK I'll bite!!!
This is a measured response to Peter and Paul and (whatever happenned to) "Jacksonville" Mary??
I am reminded here of an old and very effective UK advertising campaign of years past (probably the early 70s) for
the then new to the UK Yellow Pages telephone directory system, with which I was familiar from my days in Canada
the slogan was "let your fingers do the walking"
Bringing that up to date it's "let your keyboard do the googling "
I started with a prosaic
"wma to mp3 conversion"
you will get an astounding nay overwhelming 4 million claimed results which would keep you busy for a few yonks
adding "freeware" to that search reduces these to a mere 2 million plus
of course for this exercise one also needs a splitter so search within those 2 million odd for "splitter"
Ah Ha a more manageable 1 million plus
of which the first looked just the ticket
WMA Converter Encoder Decoder Burner Player Editor Splitter Joiner ...
wma to mp3 mac freeware convert mov to wma wma splitter ... Convert WMA to MP3; Extract audio from video files and encode them to MP3 or WMA
http://www.brothersoft.com/audio/wma.html
which lists a load of converters nearly all shareware
I did better at:-
http://www.onlyfreewares.com/Audio-V...-Converter.php
where I was pleased to read:-
WMA to Mp3 Software
Download free software to convert wma to mp3 files without fuss.
at of all things a down under website:-
http://www.nch.com.au/switch/index.html
which proclaims
"Switch Audio File Conversion Software
Convert and encode a range of audio file formats
"
and furthermore
"Switch audio file conversion software is a sound file format converter for Windows or Mac. It can convert audio files from many different file formats into mp3, wav or wma files including wav to mp3, mp3 to wav, wma to mp3 and much more (see the supported formats list below)."
complete with a splendid graphic

further down it even says
"Related Software
Switch audio file converter is just one component of the NCH Swift Sound suite of audio software for business. If you have not done so already, please see NCH Swift Sound Software page to download many other audio related programs. Many of these are also free."

I liked the look of "slice" and sure enough under Utilities I read
Slice (audio file splitter) leading to
http://www.nch.com.au/splitter/index.html

and even a self descriptive screenshot

and all for nowt
I trust that answers your question Peter and hopefully teaches you to be a bit more adventurous
In fact having obtained the full and continuous 1:20:52 wma of the simply splendid Red Rocks 1975
I think that burning it direct to a CD as a single track would be a satisfactory solution
anothe google for "burn cd from wma nero"
led me to
http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Nero_WMA_Plugin.htm
"
To install Nero WMA Plugin, just download and execute the file. ... Plugin Pack: features a number of plugins to allow Nero Burning Rom to burn a variety of ...."
which looks promising as I already have several flavo(u)rs of Nero
of course it is always nice to be able to go straight to a particular song in such a concert recording
so I also googled for
continuous recording inserting markers"
and found another host of interesting and relevant results that I have yet to sift through
Stone Me always another project to follow up on!!
I must stop now as I also want to respond to the other "Wolfgang" thread
"Sir" John Fowles Bt


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Old 11-14-2007, 10:32 PM   #20
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Thanks Sir John! I tried out the NCH Swift programs... seem to do quite well. Only have time to do a couple of tracks tonight, but so far so good.
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Old 11-15-2007, 10:04 AM   #21
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Is there any way to get this one on CD. A very young Gordon Lightfoot {Solo} singing, and playing his guitar, on 13 tracks. This is so enjoyable listening to. Can't seem to be able to burn it on a CD, to add it to my collection.

John or anyone who can help here ???

gordonlightfoot1965.asx

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Old 11-15-2007, 01:02 PM   #22
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Hey Jesse Joe: Well, I checked and that particular file does not appear to be available for download directly from the site. However, if you really want to get this done, I suggest you check out the thread re: Wolfgang's Vault. RM's son generously posted a tutorial re: among other things, a freeware program http://www.mp3mymp3.com With that software, you can record anything you can stream. In their words: "If you can hear it, you can record it". Once recorded, the file can be saved as either mp3 or wav. Then you can burn it as a single long track. If you want to separate the tracks, see Sir John's tutorial above. Good Luck!
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Old 11-15-2007, 01:43 PM   #23
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Ok Paul Farnham,

Thank you very much for the reply, it is appreciated. Will check on that.
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Old 11-15-2007, 03:34 PM   #24
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I am late getting into this thread, but may have some suggestions to help people wanting to download/capture streaming media, convert files to different formats, split them up and burn them to CD/DVD.

1. Capture streaming media from browser

If you use Firefox (which I highly recommend!) there are some extensions which will allow you to download a variety of streaming media. I use "DownloadHelper" and find it suits my needs, but there are other extensions available which you might find more to your liking.

If you use M$ Internet Explorer, there is "Flash and Media Capture" plugin (shareware $24.95).

2. Downloaded Files

Depending on the format, the downloaded file can be manipulated to put on CD/DVD using a variety of programs and methods. Most require some kind of conversion from the default format to a "burnable" file type. What you use depends on your operating system and the depth of your pockets!

3. Recommended Sites

There are two information sites for burning CDs or DVDs which might answer the questions that have come up. If you ever have a question about CD/DVD burning, these sites are a good place to start

CD-Recording FAQ
http://www.cdrfaq.org/

DVD FAQ
http://www.dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html

4. Free Software

As John so elaborately stated, there are a large number of sites dedicated to software which can split, copy, convert, etc. I have found two sites which have become my first stop when I'm looking for a new freeware program (of almost any kind).

SnapFiles
http://www.snapfiles.com/freeware/
(they also have a shareware side to the site which has more elaborate/functional programs)

NoNags
http://www.snapfiles.com/freeware/

Both sites provide information about the programs, links to the author's site and ratings.

One conversion program not on those sites is

Free WMA to MP3 Converter
http://www.wma-mp3.org/

While I have not tried it myself, it seems to be worth a look for those who do a lot of converting.

As a relative newbie in this area, I have no recommendations (other than Audacity) for most of these tasks. However, as Peter mentions, Audacity does not yet work with the .wma format. In the end, I think you'll have to use more than one program to get what you want!

(By the way, Audacity can record audio, too...like MP3myMP3!)
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Thanks for your time and effort in providing all that info Cathy. Much appreciated! You tech-savvy folks are an IMMENSE asset to the rest of us here.

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