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Old 05-19-2009, 02:27 PM   #1
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Are you folks in the Toronto area getting excited by this team ?

As a Yankee fan, they're starting to make me nervous.
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Old 05-19-2009, 03:20 PM   #2
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be afraid..be very afraid..

Red Sox are up for a whoopin this week..White Sox went down for all 4 games ...
Doc rocks..Jays are #1
oh yeah...
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Old 05-19-2009, 03:43 PM   #3
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Another Yankee fan. It's pretty early yet; I wouldn't mind seeing the Jays sweep the Sox, and then fall apart. What worries me more than the Sox or the Jays are the Yankees themselves--aging, hurt, no bullpen, shaky starting pitching. Looks like third place again unless things turn around.
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Old 05-19-2009, 06:29 PM   #4
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Mets fan here. I prefer the Sox to whup the Yankees but any port in a storm...

Your Yankees concerns are right on the money. The core of the team is too old now and they have no bullpen. They have a ton of work to do if they want to get another run going. Working against them is the fact that some of the old guys are already Yankee legends so they can't do anything about the situation until those guys retire - Posada and Jeter being chief among them.

This is actually the area where the Sox have them. The Sox get younger and yet continue to contend. The Yankees let the farm system get away.

The Mets are another story. They just have the curse of being the Mets. Five errors last night and lose it on a base running error. Doh!
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Old 05-19-2009, 10:05 PM   #5
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One thing you might notice about the Sox is that in 2003 they hired Bill James to be their personnel guru, or whatever title they gave him. Basically he was in charge of figuring out which players would really help, and which wouldn't. In case someone doesn't know who Bill James is, he led the wave of "sabermetrics", or the deep mathematical study of baseball statistics (if you can find any of his Baseball Abstracts from the '80s and '90s, they're absolute gems). When they hired him I, they Yankee fan, said "Uh-oh--the curse is over". It happened the next year.

The Sox have been smart about letting veterans go at the right time (Pedro, Nomar and Manny are notable examples) and building the farm system. They may not be infallible, however. And the whole Big Papi problem is, in my humble opinion, a 'roids thing. No proof, but... 1) his big surge came when almost everyone was either doing them, or suspect; 2) his decline came when the testing got tougher; 3) he's Dominican, and almost every Dominican is suspect. Drugs or supplements that are outlawed or prescription-only in the U.S are not only available, but easy to find. And it's also interesting that the Sox traded Nomar for almost nothing, when he was at the top of his game--look at the Sports Illustrated Cover of him, and it just screams "steroids", and now Manny is suspended. Of course, he was just taking a medication that mostly is used for fertility problems in women. I can just see the banners--"Manny--will you have my baby?"

As a Yankee fan, I'm also not excusing the FAR too many 'roid users in that clubhouse: Giambi, Sheffield, A-Rod (probably but not provably as a Yankee), Randy Velarde from earlier years, Clemens and I'm sure many more. All of them, Sox and Yanks and beyond, should be punished more than they have been.

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Old 05-20-2009, 10:26 AM   #6
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Yeah, Bill James caught my eye right away when they grabbed him. A lot of teams were trying to hire a Bill James type of guy. The Red Sox were smart enough to hire James himself. Not like he started as a Sox fan. He's a Royals fan.

I loved his old baseball abstracts - informative and fun reads.
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Old 05-20-2009, 10:51 AM   #7
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Red Sox are up for a whoopin this week.
Red Sox 2 : Blue Jays 1

So much for "The Curse of the Moderator".
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Old 05-20-2009, 11:15 AM   #8
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rm, you applied the curse by starting the thread... like a potential no hitter, can't talk about potential playoff possibility til the dog days are here, even that might be premature

ahh, it's all about injuries, imo...let's see who has the depth

right now Scutaro (mister 24/7/365 baseball) and Hill (last i checked had most hits in the league) are out, BJ Ryan (tre-overpaid) demoted to set up man behind unproven closer Downs and even though we avg about 6 runs scored a game, what would we be doing if Vernon Wells (clean up) was hitting more than a back and change with RISP...what if, what if

hoping for a fun season...based on dollar outlays, i don't know how anyone can compete with Sox and Yanks...i must say i was happy for the Rays last year...i think teams should be ranked by wins divided by total payroll...question: why no cap in baseball?

another question: anyone ever spend late nights in the 70's drinking, smoking and playing Stratomatic baseball with other fellow wannabe managers ? that's when i really got into the James Abstracts

note: char bleeds powder blue
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Old 05-20-2009, 11:23 AM   #9
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rm, you applied the curse by starting the thread...
Whatever works. And I have no problem with stroids either.
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Old 05-20-2009, 11:37 AM   #10
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I LOVE Flashback Fridays at the Dome when the boys wear their powder blue pyjama's a la late 70's, and an alumni sits in the field level seats along first base line..LOVE it!
That's Doc wearing his pj's in your pic.. LOVE Fletch doing play by play too..he's easy on the eyes and should be on camera more..lol

Hey james - wanna go to a game when they have the two Jays world series teams in town in august? Bring Harrison too!

We'll see how the Jays play tonight in Beantown..oh yeah..
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Old 05-20-2009, 11:46 AM   #11
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i agree, rm...and i think we should have an All Stroids Olympics

Ben Johnson (he nudged out Marion Jones) will chair the committee and later declare it the greatest games yet

...btw, it's knuckleballs that make me (and Yuek) nervous

hoping Jays rebound tonight...Cecil starts (Beanie tomorrow)

note: we got the Beantown game feed last night, who is the young colour hottie? is she the new bonnie bernstein?
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Old 05-20-2009, 11:51 AM   #12
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i don't know who she was - a beantown girl but cito certainly was all smiles when speaking with her..
lolol
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Old 05-20-2009, 11:56 AM   #13
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i agree, rm...and i think we should have an All Stroids Olympics
Absolutely !! I love enhanced performance. I think it would be great to see someone pole vault 45 feet. I'm not concerned about the record books.
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Old 05-20-2009, 12:19 PM   #14
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rm ,we have a consensus: all prescriptions will be permitted...a medic will be on standby should the enhanced pole vault competition exceed the four hour threshold

char, i dialed in last friday's retro night but they musta run out of old Jays, instead i had to listen to some Bills chew peanuts

speaking of dog days, august sounds interesting...i'd drive to the lake and catch the lakeshore line in since the darn CPR doesn't run from here on weekends...harry finds baseball boring, so far...golf and football and hockey too...even lightfoot, lol...oh well, mini-soccer starts tonight (speaking of boring)

note: within the decade, it will be hard to tell Clemens and Mickey Rourke apart

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Old 05-20-2009, 12:45 PM   #15
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bring harry - i'll have him lovin' baseball by the 3rd inning. lisa started going to ballgames when she was 5. stayed for all 9 innings too.. she taped american idol last night so she could watch the baseball game..
lol
i saw those two buffalo bills players last week..hell if they can't find an ol alumni they should call me! i'll park my butt down there with a glove!

will the pole vault be scored on height jumped or 'hang time'??
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Old 05-20-2009, 01:24 PM   #16
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lol, just a matter of time before sir john mounts this thread

will Ross Giabagliati be lighting up the big torch in BC 2010?

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Old 05-20-2009, 01:38 PM   #17
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i was just joking...but these organizer guys might be serious:

http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/636701
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Old 05-20-2009, 01:55 PM   #18
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just read that! lol
and GovGen gets to head to greece to begin the toke up..er i mean torch run..
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Old 05-20-2009, 10:52 PM   #19
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oh dear. not a good night for my boys again..
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Old 05-22-2009, 10:42 PM   #20
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My mojo must be cookin'...........

Since the curse was cast, the Blue Jays are 0-7.

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Old 05-25-2009, 04:39 PM   #21
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My mojo must be cookin'...........

Since the curse was cast, the Blue Jays are 0-7.
I don't know how to stop it.
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Old 05-25-2009, 06:16 PM   #22
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I can think of several ways to stop the curse..


and we play Boston again this weekend at home..
I may have to head to The Dome and offer up some 'in-person' support.

I wonder if Gord is busy this weekend..
hmmm...
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Old 05-27-2009, 03:15 AM   #23
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Medic !!!

0-8 !!!!

Maybe 'Doc' Halladay can stop the bleeding tomorrow.
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Old 05-27-2009, 08:37 AM   #24
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from your lips to Doc's ears..
what a time they're having..

but i am so glad that the Penguins have advanced!
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0-9

Life support !
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