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Old 12-17-2011, 03:24 AM   #1
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I was exploring @ YouTube tonight and came across this bootleg audio of NIGHTTIME sung at a Harvard University concert on May 6, 2001. Never heard it before. The user who posted it believes GL wrote it planning to include it in HARMONY. I don't know how to post the actual YT video here so here is the URL:


Although I could not understand all the words, I liked it. Anybody here ever hear this?
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Old 12-17-2011, 03:25 AM   #2
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OMG. There's the video. Is that all you have to do?!!! LOL.
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Old 12-17-2011, 08:15 AM   #3
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OMG. There's the video. Is that all you have to do?!!! LOL.
Yes lol. Now you're a certified geek like the rest if us

This is the Pokeman song (he used to giggle about fitting that word into the song back when he'd introduce it, when he had it in the live rotation a decade ago)

Brian came across it recently also http://www.corfid.com/vbb/showthread...hlight=Pokeman but I think there are some earlier discussions about it. The lyrics are at the lightfoot website...

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Old 12-17-2011, 12:02 PM   #4
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I remember hearing it back then...and not quite getting all the words...
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Old 12-17-2011, 12:32 PM   #5
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Nice song - a little like "No Mistake About It". Never cared for "Couchiching" so I guess in my opinion "Night Time" would have been a better track......
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Old 12-17-2011, 01:02 PM   #6
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Very nice. Thank you for sharing it.
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Old 12-17-2011, 01:16 PM   #7
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A little bit of "On Yonge Street too, perhaps?
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Old 12-17-2011, 01:53 PM   #8
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A little bit of "On Yonge Street too, perhaps?
yeah, and No Mistake About It 'bluesy-ness', eh? I'll add A Lesson in Love

...the song I mean...I'm the last person who should instructing


Nighttime:

The stars are alive in the heavens tonight
And the moon shines under the trees
And the sound of a plane at the midnight hour
Sets my mind at ease
Were it not for a mouse in the corner of the house
What would the nighttime be

I work for a man and I never get it right
I appreciate family and friends
With a tear and a sigh in a POKEMAN world
Is how my daytime ends
Without an old clock with its wires in a knot
How would my day begin

Oh the stars will remain in the heavens above
Til the sun burns out in a ring
And the call of the windswept sands of time
Teach us everything
Without any mouse in the corner of the house
What would the nighttime bring

The skies are alive in the heavenly blue
And the birds fly over the sea
And the sound of the bus that goes up and on by
Rolls on reminding me
Without an old clock with its wires in a knot
Where would my nighttime be
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Old 12-17-2011, 05:58 PM   #9
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A little bit of "On Yonge Street too, perhaps?
Yeah, that song too...I almost think think there was a change happening in Lightfoot's sound around that time - who knows what might have happened had he not gotten ill in '02...
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Old 12-22-2011, 03:15 PM   #10
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Great to see this up on the site !!!

Took my whole family to Massey Hall (back before you had to have an expensive passport!!!) to see Gord in his 'temple' (not being sarcastic here / I wanted to see him here at least once before I died) in, I think, 2001.

I think 'Nightime' was worthy of being added to the 'Harmony' album. I remember liking it after I heard it the first time there.

It really stands up to anything else on the album. However my favorite song from that album is still 'River Of Light'.
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Old 12-22-2011, 08:44 PM   #11
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Temple is an apt description of "The Church of Gord" on Shuter Street...
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Old 12-27-2011, 05:42 AM   #12
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'Nighttime' is one of my favorite Gordon Lightfoot songs. I posted it on Youtube because I thought it was so beautiful it deserved to be heard by more people. Glad to see someone else likes it too...

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Old 12-28-2011, 04:06 AM   #13
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Wow, thanks Islandgirl1 for the post and jj for the lyrics. Yes... "Nighttime", I had forgotten all about it, but I heard Gord play it live at Massey Hall in May 2001, before 9/11 made it harder to travel to Canada. I seemed to recall some song about the "evening" and he said he wrote it at his new home in North York.
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Old 12-28-2011, 04:29 AM   #14
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Thanks to peter k also, for making the original post to YouTube.
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Old 12-29-2011, 01:13 AM   #15
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I also did some exploring at YouTube, and found many new songs I'd never heard before, mostly from the 1960's. These are short folk songs by GL, mostly posted by "guitarman." Good stuff!! And happy 2012. Here's a list:
My love for you
Echoes of Heroes
Prettiest Time of her life
Don't be sorry
Sands of time
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Old 12-29-2011, 05:08 PM   #16
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I also did some exploring at YouTube, and found many new songs I'd never heard before, mostly from the 1960's. These are short folk songs by GL, mostly posted by "guitarman." Good stuff!! And happy 2012. Here's a list:
My love for you
Echoes of Heroes
Prettiest Time of her life
Don't be sorry
Sands of time
Happy 2012 backatcha Rick

yes yes Rick sorry but I have to surmise that if those five are really new to you you cannot
be paying enough attention to what is put up here!! Not to mention that full details are available from the cornucopia known as lightfoot.ca
For your benefit and for any noobs to whom these are also new I will give some details
My Love For You must rank as one of the top "unreleased" songs performed by Gord and was written by Les Pouliot a.k.a Red Shea's brother.I just said "unreleased" which is not strictly true as it is featured not once but twice on the soundtrack of Gord's Hollywood debut movie
"Harry Tracy -Desperado'/Last of the Wild Bunch and has been much discussed in these forums and the youtube video has been embedded here at least once
see:-
http://www.corfid.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=22416&highlight=my+love+for+you
The other songs on your list mainly feature on the Warner Brothers Demos album
Although the great "officially unreleased" song "Echoes Of Heroes" also turns up on Gord's setlist at the La Cave bar in Cleveland Ohio in May 1965. right click the following link then "save target as" to download an mp3 of that performance complete with Gord's intro which reveals his inspiration for writing it:-
ftp://www.johnfowles.org.uk/LIGHTFOO..._Of_Heroes.mp3
I said "officially unreleased" because it was included on one of the two Koala albums cobbled together from the La Cave recording as a tax evasion scheme and released for public sale
see
http://www.raremp3.co.uk/2008/11/gor...r-bootleg.html

for reference the complete contents of the WB Demos album is shown on
http://www.guitars101.com/forums/f90...-a-104973.html
that page shows the total content of 32 songs plus links to a pair of rar format archived files on rapidshare that are no longer there for downloading However that nice Mr Google
found me an alternative rapidshare zip file of 180MB at:-
https://rs489tl3.rapidshare.com/#!do...FD28D16C69|0|0
using my preferred unzipping tool
see my mini tutorial at:-
http://www.corfid.com/vbb/showpost.p...46&postcount=2
I now have a folder containing 32 high quality (320MBPS) mp3s totalling a shade under 80 minutes and from which a standard 700MB/80 minute CD of sufficient audio quality to satisfy the majority of fans may be burnt
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Old 12-29-2011, 06:14 PM   #17
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late breaking news
If that 180MB file download is too much for your internet connection or available storage space there are two alternatives
I searched for GL on the uk mp3 site I cited for the Get Together album and found
a page for the WB Demos there also at:-

http://www.raremp3.co.uk/2009/01/gor...oot-demos.html


you can then download a single small zip file of a mere 21.8MB that unzips to reveal an
all in one mp3 file of only 22.8MB that was sampled at the distinctly Lo Fi rate of only 40KBPS
That reminded me that the WB Demos are also available for listening as a streaming file at the sugarmegs website
open:-
http://tela.sugarmegs.org/alpha/g.html
scroll down to find the item or even easier use the browser's find facility to find "warner"
click the title to stream or right click the "download" link and then "save target as" to get another all in one file GordonLightfoot1964-66WarnerBrothersDemos.wma of 22.4MB in wma format that was also sampled at a mere 40KBPS as all the downloads from sugarmegs are
If you wish to burn a pukka CD then those two 40KBPS files are unlikely to give a satisfactory result.
 
 
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Old 12-29-2011, 10:00 PM   #18
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I found a few more @ YouTube:

An Old Friend [- I think it is about a dog during childhood. . .]


Don't Be Sorry -


Sands of Time


All of these are from the "Warner Publishing Demos" [1964-1966]

My apologies if these were posted here in the recent past. Enjoy.
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Old 12-30-2011, 01:57 AM   #19
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you just gotta love that voice, don't ya? makes me sad that I was too young then to have heard, or remembered, Gordon of the 60's era. I think, perhaps, I was also living in the wrong country for I am not sure the early stuff was played down here in the states. But I could be wrong... I was young, after all.

P.S. Thanks for posting NIghttime. Beautiful song. It would be nice to hear that in concert.

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Old 01-01-2012, 06:57 PM   #20
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beautiful song, nightime.

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Old 01-05-2012, 01:57 PM   #21
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On the Official Gordon Lightfoot web page in the unreleased songs section it says:

Lightfoot recorded 23 guitar, vocal demos at Grant Ave. Studio in 2002 prior to falling ill in September of that year. We know the 9 demos that were completed by the band and released on Harmony. Here now are the 14 other songs that were not used for the album.

BETTER OFF

DO YOU WALK, DO YOU TALK

DREAMDRIFT

E-MOTION

I'M A HOMELESS GUY

JUST A LITTLE BIT

LAUGHTER WE SEEN

OH SO SWEET

RETURN INTO DUST

SEEMS LIKE FOREVER

STREETS

WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN

WHY NOT GIVE IT A TRY

YOU ARE MY DESTINY

Does anyone know if any of these recordings have ever been circulated as bootlegs? Or performed live? If a gem like 'Nighttime' could be left unreleased, I wonder if any of these other songs from the same era might be just as good?
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Old 01-05-2012, 07:45 PM   #22
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Excellent sluething Peter.
How on earth did you get that list??
We had a vested interest in one of those possible 2002 gems "E-motion you know like e-mail" but although Gord dropped heavy hints on the theme of that song he never would even sing us a tiny segment. When pressed we were told, not by Gord, that it got ruined at Grant Avenue later and was deemed not good enough for release or worth any further work.
I have never heard of any bootlegs of these 14.
I never understood why Nightime which was caught many times on bootlegs in 2000/2001,usually in very polished form did not join the other two 2001 live concert recordings (The No Hotel and Shellfish) on Harmony, I mean come off it the CD as issued was after all a lot less than the 80 minute capacity of a standard format CD.
And surely it would have harmed nobody to give the fans a bit more for their money

After I replied i realise that Gord would be somewhat unlikely to release a song called "You Are My Destiny" because surely another Canadian has prior ownership of that title
and I don't think that this qulaifies as a bootleg of Gord's song anyway!!

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Old 01-05-2012, 08:00 PM   #23
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http://www.lightfoot.ca/unresngs.htm
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Old 01-06-2012, 06:56 PM   #24
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Excellent sluething Peter.
How on earth did you find it? ]
yes yes John sorry but I have to surmise that if this list is really new to you you cannot be paying enough attention to what is put up here!! Not to mention that full details are available from the cornucopia known as lightfoot.ca

Lol (j/k)

Hey I cant believe a massive bootleg museum curator and a Lightfoot unreleased song trivia master, would not know every inch of our beloved Canadian lightfoot website! Char has given the link below for John and noobs

I encourage all to have fun periodically sifting over the Tidbits section that Wayne has put together. That one page alone is a more fun read than the entire bidini book!

I agree John. That harmony album is way too short and I could actually have done without the live stuff breaking the mood on there. I would have liked more studio raritues, and more Harmony!

The album should have been called "no harmony"

Guys, there is a great intro blurb by Wayne and some comments about each of the Warner demos at the lightfoot site. Enjoy. Btw, I got the demos from a generous fellow countrywoman initially but then again right here a few years ago when someone posted the torrents file. Cyberspace can be soooo amayzing....

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Old 01-07-2012, 10:35 PM   #25
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"Where Have You Been" - not a Rihanna cover, I expect. Love Kathy Mattea's "Where've You Been?" - makes me cry every time, remindsme of my own parents. I do hope someday we hear those unreleased songs.
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