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Old 11-02-2005, 08:21 PM   #26
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Okay! We seem to have a "mis-defenition" of what I meant about "Race Among The Ruins". First off,it's one of the very first Lightfoot songs I ever heard,so I do not dis-like it. What I meant is,it's good,but not exactly a place I'd start a new listner off.

As for being a single,I stand by my comment. The top 40 is "rough country" for artists trying to get hits and I just felt that "R.A.T.R" wasn't the kind of song one hears on the radio. Commercially speaking,"Spanish Moss" would have been the stronger choice.

No malice to Gordon or his songs intended.
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Old 11-03-2005, 09:18 PM   #27
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I, too, have wondered at many sad lyrics being combined with upbeat melodies. Strange, but, somehow Gord does it and does it well. Not an easy task. And we are the eager, slavering listeners. Well, some of us are, ha!
I Want To Hear It From You and Johnny Cash's Ring OF Fire are two songs that fall into that category.
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Old 09-01-2008, 01:14 PM   #28
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Okay, assuming I was having a conversation with someone who had never heard of Gordon Lightfoot, then they said to me "Alright, let's here a few songs of this 'Lightfoot' guy you keep boasting about. Make me a CD and I'll go home and give it a listen". For the songs I WOULD MOST want on the CD are:

-Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald (probably the #1 of all time G.L. recruiting song)
-Go Go Round
-Ordinary Man
-Second Cup Of Coffee
-Rainbow Trout
-I'll Do Anything
-Sit Down Young Stranger
-Whispers Of The North
-The House You Live In
-Dream Street Rose
-Mister Rock Of Ages

And now for the songs I WOULDN'T want to put on the disc. (Note: keep in mind the songs I'm about to list are not necessarily bad songs, they're just songs that WOULD NOT MAKE A GOOD FIRST IMPRESSION is all).

-A Message To The Wind
-Keepin' On Yearnin' (I like it a lot, fact of business is, it's one of my favorites, but it wouldn't make a good 1st impression on GL).
-Endless Wire
-Canary Yellow Canoe
-For Lovin' Me

That's all I can list for now, it's time for me to have lunch.
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Old 09-02-2008, 07:37 AM   #29
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The Auctioneer song. It wasn't his song and he didn't do it any better than anyone else ever did, and maybe just as bad.
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Old 09-07-2008, 10:45 PM   #30
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If I'm tryin to make them a fan,I certainly know not to start with 80's or 90's. I'd also "save" Endless Wire LP for later as well.

Always,if you're going to basically "inform" a friend or anyone on Gordon Lightfoot,it's best to start at the beginning and show them how his music grew and progressed.

If you start with Harmony or in the middle,then go to the UA & then Reprise,it might seem a bit too mixed up. '66 to '04,remember that!
I second that idea. I had the great good fortune to get to see his Live In Reno concert broadcast on our local PBS station this evening, and miracle of all miracles, though my mum wouldn't admit it, she was even hummimg along with the music, which for me is a good start, as she normally wouldn't listen to him.
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Old 09-08-2008, 02:26 AM   #31
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I would skip Knotty Pine.
Well, I guess I should say...I always skip over Knotty Pine...lol.

I think it's too clever and I am not that crazy about the way he sings it.

Several people here gave me the advice to start at the beginning with Gordon's music. It turned out to be the best way for me and I love the early music.
I probably would not have bothered with the United Artist Collection if people here hadn't given me a heads up on it.
It is still one of my absolute favorites to listen to.

I love Beautiful. A guy can sing that song to me anytime...lol.
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Old 09-08-2008, 09:48 AM   #32
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I definitely wouldn't play My Pont Won't Go from ODR. I almost always skip that one.
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Old 09-08-2008, 05:24 PM   #33
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I definitely wouldn't play My Pont Won't Go from ODR. I almost always skip that one.
i'm probably the only person here that skips Beautiful!
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Old 09-08-2008, 05:37 PM   #34
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i'm probably the only person here that skips Beautiful!
shame on you!

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Old 09-08-2008, 05:50 PM   #35
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sorry!
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Old 09-08-2008, 05:56 PM   #36
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Old 09-08-2008, 08:15 PM   #37
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cash..we're talking cash.. and I don't mean Johnny...
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Old 09-19-2008, 02:24 PM   #38
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I would have to say not one thing. I love all of his music. My boyfriend loves his music too.
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Old 09-20-2008, 07:14 AM   #39
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Yeah, me too, christine75. What would I play, depends on the friend and the mood.
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Old 09-20-2008, 06:50 PM   #40
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i'm probably the only person here that skips Beautiful!
No, you're not.
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Old 09-21-2008, 10:21 PM   #41
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Now, as for skipping any of Gordons songs, I don't think that I would skip any of them. to me, it would be the equivalent of making heavenly hash & leaving out the marachino cherries.
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Old 09-21-2008, 11:29 PM   #42
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OK, I remember enjoying this subject I guess in another thread variation before, 'cause I do remember indicating a few songs that make me feel like saying 'ayeeeeeshhh ethhh aaagh" - and getting up and running across the room, and moving the tonearm. I know I am dating myself - harkening to LP days and "record players".

The difference between a record player and a "turn-table", with say exactly the same features ? back then (70's), $30, a lot of money then. But as to the songs, I'd NOT play, for a friend I was introducing Gord's music to:

1. Heeeeeey You - DSR - fingernails on the chalkboard to me, relatively.
2. In my Fashion ( I know, I know, its admirable life principles, its sincerity,
all true, but the music, the contruct melodically, ayeesh ! lol ). I've even
heard it said that this song is somewhat autobiographical, and I certainly
would NEVER want to cast a dispersion on something of this level of
personal importance to Gord, but as to just it as a song.......ayeeesh
3. Canary Yellow Canoe - No explanation necessary. However, I will give it
one thing, it is referring to his Old Town Canoe, a triple layer laminate
system they have a tradename for, that can be bent around rocks,
and popped back ! And Gord has said he had to do just that with it, after
it literaly folded around a boulder. And that foam core keeps 'em afloat
when they are otherwise capsizing.... a good thing, 50 miles out in the
Beaufort sea. however unlikely that is !
4. Slide on Over - reasoning is weird and hard to put in words, and subject to
considerable misinterpretation. I do not feel Gord was posessed of any of
the as-yet-not-mentioned-awkwardness-Freudian-esque concepts the
song makes me think of a person beset by unhealthily, but its just the
choice of words that unfortunately elicit this. Words that harken to the
"Hey baby, whats your sign ?, school of hitting on" - mid - 70's polyester.
I'll mention distastefully one of the concepts that mildly makes my skin
recoil in "ayeesh" (thats my new word this week for disapproval of an
urgent nature...lol) - roughly "momma put your long dress on, see how
that little girl walks, why'ontcha slide on over , and ...." - in reality, its
perfectly normal quiet suggestion of perfectly healthy lust , but
the imagery of the word choices, again from various eras "momma" , and
"litle girl" - both an unintentional, and certainly not the case eliciting of
the subjects of Oedipal complex, and as far as children, which of
COURSE he was NOT referring too, I know, but the word choice takes
away all healthy entendre and healthy...lust , and takes
it down "shrink alley", because of all the stuff you here about nowadays
in refernce sadly to children, as a father, it just makes me want to skip
it, nuff said. Not intended, not the case, , just unintentional song-
wrecking subjects for a person who has only HEARD of these things. I
guess maybe 'cause my mother was a psych.... lol who knows.
Bottom line - I'd skip it.
5. Cobwebs and Dust - no particular reason, fok music has its requisite
almost nursery-rhyme contingent I realize, and being tru to a genre
is admirable, but Gord really in the transitional IMO album of IYCRMM,
really slipped comfortably into his shoes woth DQ after that, and they
seemed to fit most comfortable thereafter thrpught the 70's, peaking
in apparent texture and feel of the songs - around 73 - 75 at its most
identifiable "peak" of this "texture" period as I have heard it written of
as - the 'Broad[Brimmed Era'.

Ones I don't understand of others - just the fun exchange that occurs in this
thread 'but I LIKE that song.... no fair...lol:
A.Beautiful - lol... I know many woman say ot just melts them, but as just
plain beautiful melody, warm and engaging lyrics, to me its a song that
when a man and a woman are in love, and they are sitting arm around
each other, this song...just seesm to pull them close together... I have
SEEN IT in concert in the audience immediately around me.... I love it.
As Gord says...love fulfilled....NOT sad.... lol no offense Cathy - I sort
of understand what you mean... its not very wode-ranging or inventive
melodically, its jst kind iof up and down a short range of scale, but as
rgw beautiful guitar-teacher I had when I was 18 - she was an OLDER
woman - 19.... I just stared at her and said "unh-huh" looking at her long
black hair,...lol..while she was trying to teach me "Beatiful", and she
explained what made it captivating and "pleasant" tp so may people -
I don't know if she was right... at the time.. who cared..... but she said
it was this "Steve, Lightfoot uses alot of miner 7's.....' so if you want to
play Lightfoiot - lets work on miner 7's.....she strummed some, and danged
if that long black hair.....wasn't...right...........what ?? oh..right... lol

B Pony won't go = I hear ya... it has a few turns in melody that were not
meant for humans,.... kinda make ya squirm in your chair.....ehhh lol
C.Knotty Pine - after seeing Stonewalls Vistory of it, I lke it. But before
that, I had the same reservations. And, this isn't fair of me , but what
with the bells-palsey and all, its not fair to Gord either, but when I
watched him solo it in the 4-Strong winds videi with Ian and Sylvia, and
EmmyLou, his facial gyrations to seee it made it seem excruciatingly
painful for him to sing....I hope thats not the case.....for his sake...
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Old 09-22-2008, 05:08 AM   #43
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the age factor might also play a part... i'm only 30


if i want to get a friend of mine into Lightfoot, i wouldnt play them the softer stuff. w while back, i made a friend of mine listen to Salute. he loved Broken Dreams and said its a song that could have been used for an 80s sitcom theme, cause its so catchy. another friend of mine loved Keeping on yearning.

i love most of his ballads, but Beautiful will always take a back seat for me!
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