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Iron · 01-06-2006, 10:19 PM

Aburn Annie,
You most evidently have some knowledge in the mining arena.That is pretty neat,how are You affiliated ??
I understand what You mentioned about the barracade,it's just the "if escape is not possible" part that "puzzles" me? Perhaps they found an area of good air and decided to wait for help,and I realize the 20-20 hindsight,but If I had the 1 hour o2 reserve,and no obstructions,and considering the +or- 2 mile depth,,,I think I would have chosen to evacuate.I was not there,just an armchair evaluation..
At first,I thought the "lightning" thing was a bit absurd,but perhaps it is not..Considering the energy involved,and where it is dispersed,one cannot rule it out as an ignition source....

Borderstone,
"Seems" is the key word in the local media You mentioned.Don't take me wrong here,I understand You are just passing along the info that You heard,and it does not suprise me that it may be true in some places.I happen to personelly know of a Federal mine inspector,he used to be my next door neighboor,that inspected underground mines in the "South".Now mind you,this was about 15 years ago,and I cannot say if things have changed,but the reason "He" moved back up north was,and this He told me,"When You go into those mines,they make it pretty clear that if You find any violations in this mine,You will not be coming out!!!"Is this true or not?? I've known this person for a long time,since I was about 6 years old.Never the bullshuttin type.
Now here is the flip side:
I 've been in the coal mining industry for 25+ years.{above ground}I have nothing but the utmost respect for MSHA and State regulatory authorities.(DEP).I cannot speak for anyone but myself,and miners in our area,but I must say that contrary to the report that You heard from Your local "news", it is quite the opposite around here.Though contrary to some of the stuff you might be hearing on the "news",It does not make a bit of difference about union or nonunion when it comes to safety in the mining industry.
I do not know where the report may have originated from,and I for sure do not know if it may be fact or not from the area of origon,but I can say that in our area of mining,DEP and MSHA do an outstanding job.They are there for us,the miners,union or nonunion..

01-06-2006, 10:19 PM	#5
Iron Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Central, Pa. U.S. Posts: 354	Aburn Annie, You most evidently have some knowledge in the mining arena.That is pretty neat,how are You affiliated ?? I understand what You mentioned about the barracade,it's just the "if escape is not possible" part that "puzzles" me? Perhaps they found an area of good air and decided to wait for help,and I realize the 20-20 hindsight,but If I had the 1 hour o2 reserve,and no obstructions,and considering the +or- 2 mile depth,,,I think I would have chosen to evacuate.I was not there,just an armchair evaluation.. At first,I thought the "lightning" thing was a bit absurd,but perhaps it is not..Considering the energy involved,and where it is dispersed,one cannot rule it out as an ignition source.... Borderstone, "Seems" is the key word in the local media You mentioned.Don't take me wrong here,I understand You are just passing along the info that You heard,and it does not suprise me that it may be true in some places.I happen to personelly know of a Federal mine inspector,he used to be my next door neighboor,that inspected underground mines in the "South".Now mind you,this was about 15 years ago,and I cannot say if things have changed,but the reason "He" moved back up north was,and this He told me,"When You go into those mines,they make it pretty clear that if You find any violations in this mine,You will not be coming out!!!"Is this true or not?? I've known this person for a long time,since I was about 6 years old.Never the bullshuttin type. Now here is the flip side: I 've been in the coal mining industry for 25+ years.{above ground}I have nothing but the utmost respect for MSHA and State regulatory authorities.(DEP).I cannot speak for anyone but myself,and miners in our area,but I must say that contrary to the report that You heard from Your local "news", it is quite the opposite around here.Though contrary to some of the stuff you might be hearing on the "news",It does not make a bit of difference about union or nonunion when it comes to safety in the mining industry. I do not know where the report may have originated from,and I for sure do not know if it may be fact or not from the area of origon,but I can say that in our area of mining,DEP and MSHA do an outstanding job.They are there for us,the miners,union or nonunion.. __________________ Brian W.