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Wes Steele 05-24-2000 08:15 PM

I am sorry for being so dumb, but what does the line, "Stemming gold to make ends meet" mean from Don Quixote? I never found a good definition for stemming.

Wes...

Rob Wells 05-24-2000 11:04 PM

Wes,

Somebody asked this question in another thread back aways but I can't remember what the answer was. I have always felt that it was akin to eking out a living thru begging. The dictionary defines it as making progrss against the opposing force.

Rob

loveandmaplesyrup 05-25-2000 01:03 AM

Kind of like "stemming the tide", Rob?

I've kind of wondered about that, too. Maybe it has something to do with "panning" for gold. You know, going down to the river to see what you can find to buy something for dinner. Okay, that's probably stupid. Sorry.

It could be a Canadian phrase, though, like they say chocolate bars instead of candy bars.

Stay loose, eh?

LAMS

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"Love and maple syrup
go together like the
sticky winds of winter
when they meet....
If you go into the forest
Gaze up through the trees
The sky is white.
You can understand
What makes the forest
Greet the man
Like a mother's only
child ..."

Florian 05-25-2000 12:10 PM

Hi Wes,

to stem - the translation listed in my English-German dictionary is: 'aufhalten', which means 'to hold back', 'to bring to a stop'.

Here is what the online-dictionaries have to offer:

stem
quote:
1. to stop, check, or restrain.
2. to dam up; stop the flow of (a stream, river, or the like).
3. to tamp, plug, or make tight, as a hole or joint.
4. Skiing.to maneuver (a ski or skis) in executing a stem.
5. to stanch (bleeding).


stem
quote:
1. to make headway against (a tide, current, gale, etc.).
2. to make progress against (any opposition).


stem
quote:
1. (at the bow of a vessel) an upright into which the side timbers or plates are jointed.
2. the forward part of a vessel (often opposed to stern).


stem
quote:
1. to arrange the loading of (a merchant vessel) within a specified time.


In addition to that, I ran the word through the thesaurus, these are suggested alternates: stop, restrict, curtail, reduce, decrease.

The complete phrase is:
'See the drunkard in the tavern
Stemming gold to make ends meet'

So I guess it means that the drunkard has to budget his money carefully.

Then again I could be completly wrong with my interpretation http://www.corfid.com/ubb/wink.gif.

Wes Steele 05-25-2000 08:27 PM

Thanx all of you for the information. Now it makes sense.

Something that has never come up on this site about GL is his education. Looking back at his life, GL's education was high school and one year at Westlake College of Music in L.A.

It simply amazes me of this man's vocabulary. How this man from this little town in Ontario has been so prolific over the years. I really wonder where this vocabulary of his came from?

It is unbelievealbe.......

"When you reach the part where the hearaches come, the hero would be me, but hero's often fail".

Wes......


loveandmaplesyrup 05-26-2000 12:10 AM

Wes,
But you know, high school in Canada, I believe goes beyond the 12th grade. Like 13th or 14th. And also, the level of education in countries other than the U.S. far surpasses ours.

Stay loose, eh?

LAMS

------------------
"Love and maple syrup
go together like the
sticky winds of winter
when they meet....
If you go into the forest
Gaze up through the trees
The sky is white.
You can understand
What makes the forest
Greet the man
Like a mother's only
child ..."

char 05-26-2000 09:38 AM

Up until this year High School in Ontario went to Grade 13 if a student was going on to University. Thi is the first year that students entering the secondary stream will all graduate in grade 12. my son is in the last of the bunch that will have grade 13 (if he ever gets there!) and will graduate with the kids in grade 9 this year. A double contingent of graduates should make entry into colleges and universities quite difficult. Anyway - English is a major subject during schooling here. High school kids need 5 English credits but only 2 math to graduate! Perhaps Gord excelled in the English portion of his schooling and that's where his knowledge came from.Perhaps having a British influence on our language has something to do with it too.
Char
candy and chocolate are two different things to me!! LOL

Dan 05-26-2000 08:55 PM

WES,

I am also always amazed at the vocabulary. Who uses terms like flotsom and navies and the many others which I never knew existed before hearing them from the lips of Lightfoot. I always thought that he must be an avid reader and also someone who loves history. After all in Apology he claims he read the bible.

Dan

P.S. Chocolate is candy to me but candy is not necessarily chocolate!

charlene 05-27-2000 04:11 PM

Dan, I think we (Canadians) think of CANDY as a sugar product not containing chocolate. Thus the remaining delectable would be the gift from the heavens known as CHOCOLATE!!!
http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif
yours in chocolate,
Char
LOL

Wes Steele 05-27-2000 06:07 PM

Do Snow Cones Count?

Janice 05-27-2000 08:50 PM

Only if they're cherry snow cones

Rob Wells 05-28-2000 05:37 AM

Wes,

You and your cherry snow cones, I swear....

Rob

Wes Steele 05-28-2000 05:51 AM

DOCTOR Wells,

I mentioned NOTHING about CHERRY snow cones.

That was Janice.

Just finish that chicken coop....

Wes

theotterjudy 05-30-2000 01:29 PM

Ah, but we Gord fans are an amusing, witty bunch, aren't we? Gotta love us....

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"the mornin' after blues, from my head down to my shoes..."
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"Laughing eyes and smiling face..."

Dan 05-31-2000 11:10 PM

Wes and Rob,
How about chocolate covered cherry snow cones? Oh I guess this wouldn't be candy!!!!

Dan

charlene 05-31-2000 11:19 PM

Dan
It's me the "Canadian" again. No that would be chocolate covered candy! LOL
http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif
Do I get a "soda" or "pop" with that?
How about "chips" or "fries"??
I'm getting hungry guys.....
http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif
Char

2Much2Lose 06-02-2000 12:02 AM

Too much indulgence in this topic requires stemming calories to make ends of my belt meet.



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"And the laughter came too easy for life to pass me by." - SDYS

Wes Steele 06-02-2000 06:42 AM

To 2much2lose...

That was the funniest line on this whole site. I am still laughing. FANTASTIC!!!! HA!

By the way, on the snowcone website this Sunday, we will feature Florian writing about European snow cones.

Wes

Dan 06-02-2000 11:02 PM

Char,
It's me the American again. Would that be 'soda http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif pop', 'potatoe http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif (Danforth Q. spelling) http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif chips' and 'french http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif fries'... but what does that have to do with Wes' and Janice's cherry snow cones and chocolate? http://www.corfid.com/ubb/confused.gif

I'm on a diet so I can't be hungry. Can I?

Here is something I have never understood: If we all live in North America why are people who live in the U.S. American but people who live in Canada are Canadian??

Dan the United Statian. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/cool.gif

I had to edit this twice just to get the smile faces right!

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tanghepaul 05-15-2008 11:07 PM

Re: "Stemming gold to make ends meet..."
 
I realize this addition might be 8 years too late, but I believe the line "stemming gold to make ends meet" refers to the process of removing gold from other objects likes rings, watches, silverware, etc in order to get a composite quantity of it.

I base this opinion on Dictionary.com's definition of the verb stem when used with an object:
–verb (used with object) 20.to remove the stem from (a leaf, fruit, etc)
Not an exact fit for gold, but I think it is more plausible than merely budgeting.

RM 05-15-2008 11:31 PM

Re: "Stemming gold to make ends meet..."
 
A fresh voice.....very nice. I can go either way with the interpretations. Since the line is referring to a drunkard (see recent Massey Hall discussions), it makes sense either way.

I have commented numerous times about my admiration of Lightfoot's choice of words. Maybe someone will ask him about it at a future concert.

charlene 05-16-2008 12:57 AM

Re: "Stemming gold to make ends meet..."
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RM (Post 138411)
I have commented numerous times about my admiration of Lightfoot's choice of words. Maybe someone will ask him about it at a future concert.

and a few times during different songs each night as Gord sang certain words or phrases I thought of you and your admiration and amazement at his use of the English language..one was exactly this line and word..and I also thought I should ask him..but then I get within arms reach of him and all sanity and coherent thoughts (the little I have) seems to leave me..

;)

johnfowles 05-16-2008 11:20 AM

Re: "Stemming gold to make ends meet..."
 
Actually we had a long discussion about this word as recently as
February 2006 (after catmanRon had heard a detailed explanation at a gold mine while vacationing in Northern Queensland)
see:-
http://www.corfid.com/vbb/showthread...light=stemming
this also includes what might well be Gord's take on why he used the expression

RM 05-16-2008 01:45 PM

Re: "Stemming gold to make ends meet..."
 
"Lord abide, let us stem the tide". Would somebody from this forum please just ask him ?!

Kathy in Michigan 05-16-2008 09:00 PM

Re: "Stemming gold to make ends meet..."
 
Some people have the 'GIFT'.

That's why folks like me don't write songs...I did not get the 'GIFT'.


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