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Wesley 06-27-2005 09:25 PM

though it was off of the 1980 dream St. Rose LP the song sounds older. even Protocal off on Summertime Dream sounds like it's older than the others songs on the album.

Affair on Touhy Ave. 06-27-2005 09:25 PM

though it was off of the 1980 dream St. Rose LP the song sounds older. even Protocal off on Summertime Dream sounds like it's older than the others songs on the album.

gwen sue snyder 06-28-2005 09:43 AM

Well I have no doubt that many of Gord's songs are older than the album on which they first appeared.
For example "Go My Way" was released in 1971 on Summer Side Of Life but I distinctly remember being smitten by the song when I first heard it at a concert at McGill University Montreal in 1969 before I returned to the UK.I(I also recall being disappointed that it was not on 1970's IYCRMM)(in the SSOL sheet music book it is shown as being copyrighted to Warner Bros Inc in 1966 and 1971)
And I also heard "Me and Bobby Magee on CBC Radio's Charlottetown Festival broadcast in October 1969 long before the Sit Down
Young Stranger/IYCRMM album was released in 1970
In the case of "Cape Horn" according to Wayne Frances' chronology:-
in 1979
"Lightfoot provides the title song for the documentary, Ghosts Of Cape Horn."
several songs fom the 1964-1966 WB demos collection made it to official albums rather later in particular TOO MUCH TO LOSE eventually surfacing on Songbook in 1999 along with several older recordings of course
John Fowles
And I found I could not hold her
One day when I grew older
She took on a fine young skipper
Who soon run her up on a boulder
from:-
http://www.lyricsdownload.com/gordon...ry-lyrics.html

[ June 28, 2005, 09:49: Message edited by: fowlesjohn ]

fowlesjohn 06-28-2005 09:43 AM

Well I have no doubt that many of Gord's songs are older than the album on which they first appeared.
For example "Go My Way" was released in 1971 on Summer Side Of Life but I distinctly remember being smitten by the song when I first heard it at a concert at McGill University Montreal in 1969 before I returned to the UK.I(I also recall being disappointed that it was not on 1970's IYCRMM)(in the SSOL sheet music book it is shown as being copyrighted to Warner Bros Inc in 1966 and 1971)
And I also heard "Me and Bobby Magee on CBC Radio's Charlottetown Festival broadcast in October 1969 long before the Sit Down
Young Stranger/IYCRMM album was released in 1970
In the case of "Cape Horn" according to Wayne Frances' chronology:-
in 1979
"Lightfoot provides the title song for the documentary, Ghosts Of Cape Horn."
several songs fom the 1964-1966 WB demos collection made it to official albums rather later in particular TOO MUCH TO LOSE eventually surfacing on Songbook in 1999 along with several older recordings of course
John Fowles
And I found I could not hold her
One day when I grew older
She took on a fine young skipper
Who soon run her up on a boulder
from:-
http://www.lyricsdownload.com/gordon...ry-lyrics.html

[ June 28, 2005, 09:49: Message edited by: fowlesjohn ]

Borderstone 06-28-2005 06:14 PM

You know,in an opposite case,the song,"You'll Still Be needing Me",from Songbook was recorded in the mid-60's. ...but somehow to me,it sounds like it could have been on any LP from ..."Read My Mind" to "Sundown". :)

When I first heard it 3 years ago,it sounded like it was "brand new"! :cool: As for ..."Cape Horn",I think it's the "sailor's slang" lyrics that make it sound older "you old sea dogs!" :D

Wesley 08-05-2005 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fowlesjohn:
Well I have no doubt that many of Gord's songs are older than the album on which they first appeared.
For example "Go My Way" was released in 1971 on Summer Side Of Life but I distinctly remember being smitten by the song when I first heard it at a concert at McGill University Montreal in 1969 before I returned to the UK.I(I also recall being disappointed that it was not on 1970's IYCRMM)(in the SSOL sheet music book it is shown as being copyrighted to Warner Bros Inc in 1966 and 1971)
And I also heard "Me and Bobby Magee on CBC Radio's Charlottetown Festival broadcast in October 1969 long before the Sit Down
Young Stranger/IYCRMM album was released in 1970
In the case of "Cape Horn" according to Wayne Frances' chronology:-
in 1979
"Lightfoot provides the title song for the documentary, Ghosts Of Cape Horn."
several songs fom the 1964-1966 WB demos collection made it to official albums rather later in particular TOO MUCH TO LOSE eventually surfacing on Songbook in 1999 along with several older recordings of course
John Fowles
And I found I could not hold her
One day when I grew older
She took on a fine young skipper
Who soon run her up on a boulder
from:-
http://www.lyricsdownload.com/gordon...ry-lyrics.html

don't know why I didn't think of this till now but it's interesting you mention hearing Me and Bobby MaGee because as you or some here might know Kris Kristoffersen, think i spelled his name right, wrote that song and his version of the song was in 1970 witch I think was also his debut. I read on Wayne's site besides the 65 Tonight Show appearance, in 69 he makes appearance on Hullabalo performing Sat. Clothes and Johnny Cashes Variety show also performing Me and Bobby MaGee. wonder how long Kristoffersen had the song before recording it?

Affair on Touhy Ave. 08-05-2005 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by fowlesjohn:
Well I have no doubt that many of Gord's songs are older than the album on which they first appeared.
For example "Go My Way" was released in 1971 on Summer Side Of Life but I distinctly remember being smitten by the song when I first heard it at a concert at McGill University Montreal in 1969 before I returned to the UK.I(I also recall being disappointed that it was not on 1970's IYCRMM)(in the SSOL sheet music book it is shown as being copyrighted to Warner Bros Inc in 1966 and 1971)
And I also heard "Me and Bobby Magee on CBC Radio's Charlottetown Festival broadcast in October 1969 long before the Sit Down
Young Stranger/IYCRMM album was released in 1970
In the case of "Cape Horn" according to Wayne Frances' chronology:-
in 1979
"Lightfoot provides the title song for the documentary, Ghosts Of Cape Horn."
several songs fom the 1964-1966 WB demos collection made it to official albums rather later in particular TOO MUCH TO LOSE eventually surfacing on Songbook in 1999 along with several older recordings of course
John Fowles
And I found I could not hold her
One day when I grew older
She took on a fine young skipper
Who soon run her up on a boulder
from:-
http://www.lyricsdownload.com/gordon...ry-lyrics.html

don't know why I didn't think of this till now but it's interesting you mention hearing Me and Bobby MaGee because as you or some here might know Kris Kristoffersen, think i spelled his name right, wrote that song and his version of the song was in 1970 witch I think was also his debut. I read on Wayne's site besides the 65 Tonight Show appearance, in 69 he makes appearance on Hullabalo performing Sat. Clothes and Johnny Cashes Variety show also performing Me and Bobby MaGee. wonder how long Kristoffersen had the song before recording it?

bluemur 08-08-2005 09:11 AM

I love Ghosts of Cape Horn, but I had a funny reaction to it when I first heard it. It seemed like a redo of Edmund Fitz and I thought it might have been a reach by GL for past success. But after finding out it was done originally for a documentary everything made sense. Whoever produced that documentary obviously knew where to go (Lightfoot) for the perfectly crafted song. Falder al and a riddly rum.

mrburns 08-08-2005 09:11 AM

I love Ghosts of Cape Horn, but I had a funny reaction to it when I first heard it. It seemed like a redo of Edmund Fitz and I thought it might have been a reach by GL for past success. But after finding out it was done originally for a documentary everything made sense. Whoever produced that documentary obviously knew where to go (Lightfoot) for the perfectly crafted song. Falder al and a riddly rum.

johnfowles 08-08-2005 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrburns:
Falder al and a riddly rum.
You might say that but I couldn't possibly comment except to ask why are you taking The Watchman's name in vain? Mr Burns after you have been here for a while you will realise that you really should not mess around with Al!
http://www.fun2forward.com/es-items/236.jpg
John Fowles
He gallops off across the dusty plain
In vain to search again
Where no one will hear
from:-
http://gordon-lightfoot-lyrics.wonde...n-Quixote.html
OR
Most of us do not believe in come what may
Everything we fought for was in vain they say
from:-
http://gordon-lightfoot-lyrics.wonde...The-Devil.html
Or yet again
Tomorrow could get better than today
To the ones who’ve loved in vain
from:-
http://www.seeklyrics.com/lyrics/Gor...or-Prayin.html

[ August 08, 2005, 10:21: Message edited by: johnfowles ]

johnfowles 08-08-2005 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrburns:
Falder al and a riddly rum.
You might say that but I couldn't possibly comment except to ask why are you taking The Watchman's name in vain? Mr Burns after you have been here for a while you will realise that you really should not mess around with Al!
http://www.fun2forward.com/es-items/236.jpg
John Fowles
He gallops off across the dusty plain
In vain to search again
Where no one will hear
from:-
http://gordon-lightfoot-lyrics.wonde...n-Quixote.html
OR
Most of us do not believe in come what may
Everything we fought for was in vain they say
from:-
http://gordon-lightfoot-lyrics.wonde...The-Devil.html
Or yet again
Tomorrow could get better than today
To the ones who’ve loved in vain
from:-
http://www.seeklyrics.com/lyrics/Gor...or-Prayin.html

[ August 08, 2005, 10:21: Message edited by: johnfowles ]


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