Having been away for a few weeks
I had missed checking ebay and have now done so and here is a report on 304 of the auctions that I missed;plus amongst current offerings I found in particular an interesting single http://i17.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/a0/3f/454e_1.JPG Note the Warner Bros Seven Arts record label quite possibly therefore the first appearance by ord on WB??? the flipside is allegedly Go My Way I found it doubly interesting because although Flanagan's cover of one of my major GL favourites Spin Spin is included in Waynes comprehensive listing at:-http://www.lightfoot.ca/covsong.htm Go My Way another firm favourite isn't Also interesting because Spin Spin was a hit back in 1966 and Go My way was not released on an album until 1971's Summer Side Of Life (I clearly recall hearing it live at a concert in a Jim Nasium at Montreal's McGill University in 1969) My contention is that surely a cover version of Spin Spin would have been recorded and issued nearer to 1966 than 1971 hence Flanagan might well have released Go My Way before Gord's version came out??? However the picture of the single does not indicate the release year and I have no idea who Flanagan is was or were and google searches were absolutely no help "absolutely" is my current "in" word because I noted that Australians use it at every possible opportunity Anyway I am sufficiently intrigued to have bid on it so keep off!! If I win I will report back on how I find this cover I also noted that an Idaho profiteer has sold at least two copies of a rare CD version of the Two Tones album at the "Buy It Now" price of only $12.00 Presumably this is a rather unauthorised rip from the vinyl that he/she is now mass producing!! It is the extended "Plus" version which includes the single Lessons in Love/Sweet Polly. http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/images/...ove_single.jpg Which reminds me that I have recently seen a rare B and W clip of the Two Tones singing "MaryAnn: (not on the LP) albeit they are introduced as the Two Timers!! http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/images/...es_MaryAnn.jpg I also noted an ended auction for copy of the Canadian Talent Library LP in which our Jenney and another avid GL Ebay bidder (Dave Palmer) were both outbid http://i8.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/9e/4d/2d4d_1.JPG Appropriately considering where we have just been there was a genuine Aussie pressing of "Summertime Dream" being sold from Melbourne of all places http://i23.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/99/af/61f4_1.JPG [ May 22, 2007, 14:20: Message edited by: johnfowles ] |
Having been away for a few weeks
I had missed checking ebay and have now done so and here is a report on 304 of the auctions that I missed;plus amongst current offerings I found in particular an interesting single http://i17.ebayimg.com/07/i/000/a0/3f/454e_1.JPG Note the Warner Bros Seven Arts record label quite possibly therefore the first appearance by ord on WB??? the flipside is allegedly Go My Way I found it doubly interesting because although Flanagan's cover of one of my major GL favourites Spin Spin is included in Waynes comprehensive listing at:-http://www.lightfoot.ca/covsong.htm Go My Way another firm favourite isn't Also interesting because Spin Spin was a hit back in 1966 and Go My way was not released on an album until 1971's Summer Side Of Life (I clearly recall hearing it live at a concert in a Jim Nasium at Montreal's McGill University in 1969) My contention is that surely a cover version of Spin Spin would have been recorded and issued nearer to 1966 than 1971 hence Flanagan might well have released Go My Way before Gord's version came out??? However the picture of the single does not indicate the release year and I have no idea who Flanagan is was or were and google searches were absolutely no help "absolutely" is my current "in" word because I noted that Australians use it at every possible opportunity Anyway I am sufficiently intrigued to have bid on it so keep off!! If I win I will report back on how I find this cover I also noted that an Idaho profiteer has sold at least two copies of a rare CD version of the Two Tones album at the "Buy It Now" price of only $12.00 Presumably this is a rather unauthorised rip from the vinyl that he/she is now mass producing!! It is the extended "Plus" version which includes the single Lessons in Love/Sweet Polly. http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/images/...ove_single.jpg Which reminds me that I have recently seen a rare B and W clip of the Two Tones singing "MaryAnn: (not on the LP) albeit they are introduced as the Two Timers!! http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/images/...es_MaryAnn.jpg I also noted an ended auction for copy of the Canadian Talent Library LP in which our Jenney and another avid GL Ebay bidder (Dave Palmer) were both outbid http://i8.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/9e/4d/2d4d_1.JPG Appropriately considering where we have just been there was a genuine Aussie pressing of "Summertime Dream" being sold from Melbourne of all places http://i23.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/99/af/61f4_1.JPG [ May 22, 2007, 14:20: Message edited by: johnfowles ] |
A "Spin-Spin" 45??!! :eek: Gimmie gimmie!! :D
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Apologies to anybody reading this named Nellie of course If I win it's all mine go and find your own!! further to my report above I have just spotted yet another rarity that has been added to the current listing of completed auctions since I started my initial posting.It is an LP that I personally had never seen before allegedly called "This Is Lightfoot" http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/images/...foot_front.jpg it is yet another United Artists regurgitation this time by UA Germany of selected tracks from the 5 UA albums But this time as evidenced by "In a windopane" (sic) including some from Sunday Concert http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/images/...oot_side_3.jpg I consider that side three should have been retitled "This is the quintessential Lightfoot:"!! As you can see this is actually a 2 LP set comprising the entire Lightfoot! and Sunday Concert albums, wheras most of the plethora of UA compilation LPs were a selection from the first four albums only http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/images/...oot_tracks.jpg tht auction ended earlier today without a single bid!!! [ May 22, 2007, 15:03: Message edited by: johnfowles ] |
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Apologies to anybody reading this named Nellie of course If I win it's all mine go and find your own!! further to my report above I have just spotted yet another rarity that has been added to the current listing of completed auctions since I started my initial posting.It is an LP that I personally had never seen before allegedly called "This Is Lightfoot" http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/images/...foot_front.jpg it is yet another United Artists regurgitation this time by UA Germany of selected tracks from the 5 UA albums But this time as evidenced by "In a windopane" (sic) including some from Sunday Concert http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/images/...oot_side_3.jpg I consider that side three should have been retitled "This is the quintessential Lightfoot:"!! As you can see this is actually a 2 LP set comprising the entire Lightfoot! and Sunday Concert albums, wheras most of the plethora of UA compilation LPs were a selection from the first four albums only http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/images/...oot_tracks.jpg tht auction ended earlier today without a single bid!!! [ May 22, 2007, 15:03: Message edited by: johnfowles ] |
John, I own this double album and it is in fact called as statet.It´s brown with an allover guitar print and that beautiful picture of GL holding/sniffing a flower in the middle of the cover. It was the first album that I bought in the early 70s. And this is sure not the only rason for treasuring it. Vera
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Very funny .I swear, those pictures were not on my screen when I postet my description. Now after going back to the site-here they are. Would have saved me some trouble. Anyway. V.
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P.S. Is Nellie Walter rhyming slang or am I mssing out on something else?
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Which reminds me that I have recently seen a rare B and W clip of the Two Tones singing "MaryAnn: (not on the LP) albeit they are introduced as the Two Timers!! This pic looks familiar to me John... :rolleyes: :eek: :) |
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Which reminds me that I have recently seen a rare B and W clip of the Two Tones singing "MaryAnn: (not on the LP) albeit they are introduced as the Two Timers!! This pic looks familiar to me John... :rolleyes: :eek: :) |
'not on your nellie' is a slang way of simply No.
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I actually said Nellie and Walter as two separate items (Walter being the name of our revered friend here borderstone) and not on your Nellie is a bit of UK slang I have now googled and found http://www.peevish.co.uk/slang/n.htm where I read "nellie" Noun. 1. An effeminate or homosexual male. Derog. 2. A feeble, soft person. Derog. * Also spelt nelly. (dicsclaimer in no way did I mean to infer that Mr Stone Border was any of those derog though he may be!!!) nor was I inferring anything about the expression immediately above Nellie which is needle dick That page confirms the general rule that if you do not know what a word means such as "ninny" it is probably yet another word for an idiot Although quite a few on that particular listing are euphonisms for effeminate personages example nancy and that page also told me:- not on your Nellie! Exclam. No way! Not on your life! A shortening of the rhyming slang not on your nellie duff, where nellie duff rhymes on puff which refers to life, hence not on your life. [1940s] rathr a convoluted association methinks but then those Cockney folk are wonderfully inventive people!!! [ May 22, 2007, 18:04: Message edited by: johnfowles ] |
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I actually said Nellie and Walter as two separate items (Walter being the name of our revered friend here borderstone) and not on your Nellie is a bit of UK slang I have now googled and found http://www.peevish.co.uk/slang/n.htm where I read "nellie" Noun. 1. An effeminate or homosexual male. Derog. 2. A feeble, soft person. Derog. * Also spelt nelly. (dicsclaimer in no way did I mean to infer that Mr Stone Border was any of those derog though he may be!!!) nor was I inferring anything about the expression immediately above Nellie which is needle dick That page confirms the general rule that if you do not know what a word means such as "ninny" it is probably yet another word for an idiot Although quite a few on that particular listing are euphonisms for effeminate personages example nancy and that page also told me:- not on your Nellie! Exclam. No way! Not on your life! A shortening of the rhyming slang not on your nellie duff, where nellie duff rhymes on puff which refers to life, hence not on your life. [1940s] rathr a convoluted association methinks but then those Cockney folk are wonderfully inventive people!!! [ May 22, 2007, 18:04: Message edited by: johnfowles ] |
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I actually said Nellie and Walter as two separate items (Walter being the name of our revered friend here borderstone) and not on your Nellie is a bit of UK slang I have now googled and found http://www.peevish.co.uk/slang/n.htm where I read "nellie" Noun. 1. An effeminate or homosexual male. Derog. 2. A feeble, soft person. Derog. * Also spelt nelly. (dicsclaimer in no way did I mean to infer that Mr Stone Border was any of those derog though he may be!!!) nor was I inferring anything about the expression immediately above Nellie which is needle dick That page confirms the general rule that if you do not know what a word means such as "ninny" it is probably yet another word for an idiot Although quite a few on that particular listing are euphonisms for effeminate personages example nancy and that page also told me:- not on your Nellie! Exclam. No way! Not on your life! A shortening of the rhyming slang not on your nellie duff, where nellie duff rhymes on puff which refers to life, hence not on your life. [1940s] rathr a convoluted association methinks but then those Cockney folk are wonderfully inventive people!!! [/QUOTE]Yep, John's home! |
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I actually said Nellie and Walter as two separate items (Walter being the name of our revered friend here borderstone) and not on your Nellie is a bit of UK slang I have now googled and found http://www.peevish.co.uk/slang/n.htm where I read "nellie" Noun. 1. An effeminate or homosexual male. Derog. 2. A feeble, soft person. Derog. * Also spelt nelly. (dicsclaimer in no way did I mean to infer that Mr Stone Border was any of those derog though he may be!!!) nor was I inferring anything about the expression immediately above Nellie which is needle dick That page confirms the general rule that if you do not know what a word means such as "ninny" it is probably yet another word for an idiot Although quite a few on that particular listing are euphonisms for effeminate personages example nancy and that page also told me:- not on your Nellie! Exclam. No way! Not on your life! A shortening of the rhyming slang not on your nellie duff, where nellie duff rhymes on puff which refers to life, hence not on your life. [1940s] rathr a convoluted association methinks but then those Cockney folk are wonderfully inventive people!!! [/QUOTE]Yep, John's home! |
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Thank you all for the explanations. Always eager to learn something new. Vera
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In addition, of course, my very dear mother-in-law, Joan, was converted into a staunch lighthead by Susan and is sometimes known as "mama gordlover" and has accompanied us to a growing number of concerts includingToronto in 2005 and 2006 ***Reminds me in an earlier topic at:- http://www.corfid.com/ubb/ultimatebb...=001860#000013 I said "I have just rediscovered an old (Betamax) video cassette onto which I had copied from the original VHS tape all the scenes with Gord in from the film that was called "Wanted Dead or alive" when I saw and recorded it from BBC television a number of years ago. and my memory was correct.In the early scene where Harry Tracy and his idiot sidesman dug a hole in front of Morrie's outside loo then wait for him to come out whereupon he fell into it, In my old recording Gord very clearly says "Oh Shit"!! but this has been cut from the version recently issued on DVD. It is some small consolation for the UK version completely omitting the two instances of Gord singing "My Love For You" plus the omission of it in the closing credits. Very strange John Fowles" Quote:
http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/images/IBM_Via_Voice.jpg a scan of my earlier version's box which I can thoroughly recommend having just bought version 10 at the very advantageous price of only $29.99 from:- http://www.pricecastle.com/ibmviavoice.html rather less than the £99.99 (say $200) that my company forked out for a much earlier version in 1999 and the $29.99 offer although it arrived in a plain clear plastic bag did include the free headset . Unbelievable value.If anybody would like more details do send me a Private Message John Fowles Bt |
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In addition, of course, my very dear mother-in-law, Joan, was converted into a staunch lighthead by Susan and is sometimes known as "mama gordlover" and has accompanied us to a growing number of concerts includingToronto in 2005 and 2006 ***Reminds me in an earlier topic at:- http://www.corfid.com/ubb/ultimatebb...=001860#000013 I said "I have just rediscovered an old (Betamax) video cassette onto which I had copied from the original VHS tape all the scenes with Gord in from the film that was called "Wanted Dead or alive" when I saw and recorded it from BBC television a number of years ago. and my memory was correct.In the early scene where Harry Tracy and his idiot sidesman dug a hole in front of Morrie's outside loo then wait for him to come out whereupon he fell into it, In my old recording Gord very clearly says "Oh Shit"!! but this has been cut from the version recently issued on DVD. It is some small consolation for the UK version completely omitting the two instances of Gord singing "My Love For You" plus the omission of it in the closing credits. Very strange John Fowles" Quote:
http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/images/IBM_Via_Voice.jpg a scan of my earlier version's box which I can thoroughly recommend having just bought version 10 at the very advantageous price of only $29.99 from:- http://www.pricecastle.com/ibmviavoice.html rather less than the £99.99 (say $200) that my company forked out for a much earlier version in 1999 and the $29.99 offer although it arrived in a plain clear plastic bag did include the free headset . Unbelievable value.If anybody would like more details do send me a Private Message John Fowles Bt |
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Th obvious thrite answer has to be "Hilary's Mother or great greast.. grandmother" I was curious myself so I googled as is my wantI and found:- http://www.worldwidewords.org/articles/nellie.htm where I failed to find out who this lady was but I did read:- "a piece of London-based rhyming slang: “Nellie” = “Nellie Duff” = “puff”. There was certainly an older slang phrase in existence: not on your puff, meaning “not on your life; never” in which “puff” means “breath” and so “breath of life” and so life itself" more googling led to http://www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question72327.html where I was informed "Another curious expression my father used back in the 1940s was not on your Nellie, which some authorities think had been imported from the USA about ten years beforehand" and "I found a bit more information. It is a truncated expression that meant "not likely" because it was based on the traditional song "Nelly the Elephant" and the full phrase was an expression about being about as likely as riding into town on somebody else's elephant." Intriguingly I also found http://www.hhpl.on.ca/GreatLakes/Wre...s.asp?ID=19729 http://www.hhpl.on.ca/GreatLakes/ima...tPortDover.jpg which contains this Gord related news from 1895 "SCHOONER AND CREW LOST. The Schooner NELLIE DUFF Foundered Off Lorain, O., Last Night--One man Rescued. Lorain, Oct. 14. - The schooner NELLIE DUFF foundered two miles off this port last night. The captain and two men were drowned. One man was rescued. " and "The schooner NELLIE DUFF, hailing from Detroit and bound from Pelee Island to Cleveland, loaded with gravel" Which sounds a trifle familiar!!! perhaps our resident bard Walter could compose an epic song about that "wreck" More details to flesh out the tale are on:- http://www.boatnerd.com/swayze/shipwreck/d.htm NELLIE DUFF Other names : none Official no. : 130334 Type at loss : schooner, wood Build info : 1885, Port Clinton, OH Specs : 77x20x6 54g 51n Date of loss : 1895, Oct 14 Place of loss : near Lorain, OH Lake : Erie Type of loss : storm Loss of life : 3 of 4 Carrying : gravel Detail : Cargo shifted in heavy seas while she was trying to make port at Lorain in a gale. She sank two miles out when she turned aside to make way for another distressed vessel. By the last day of the year she had disappeared completely. NELLIE A DUFF, C.B.BENSON and KATE WINSLOW, all schooners owned by the Duff family all were lost on Oct 14, but in different years. Sources: nsp,is,h,mv,ledc,wb,hgl Note the Lake it sank on To help/inspire you I googled for "what was the indian name for lake erie" and found "Dear Twig: Where does the "Erie" part of Lake Erie come from? A long time ago, around 1600 or so, an Indian nation lived, farmed and hunted on the south shore of Lake Erie. Except it wasn't called Lake Erie then. The nation was called Erielhonan -- "long tail," or "People of the Panther," a reference to the cougars (aka pumas, panthers, mountain lions) of the region. Sometimes the people wore cougar pelts." not quite as sonorous as Gitche whatsit I admit!! [ May 23, 2007, 11:37: Message edited by: johnfowles ] |
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Th obvious thrite answer has to be "Hilary's Mother or great greast.. grandmother" I was curious myself so I googled as is my wantI and found:- http://www.worldwidewords.org/articles/nellie.htm where I failed to find out who this lady was but I did read:- "a piece of London-based rhyming slang: “Nellie” = “Nellie Duff” = “puff”. There was certainly an older slang phrase in existence: not on your puff, meaning “not on your life; never” in which “puff” means “breath” and so “breath of life” and so life itself" more googling led to http://www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question72327.html where I was informed "Another curious expression my father used back in the 1940s was not on your Nellie, which some authorities think had been imported from the USA about ten years beforehand" and "I found a bit more information. It is a truncated expression that meant "not likely" because it was based on the traditional song "Nelly the Elephant" and the full phrase was an expression about being about as likely as riding into town on somebody else's elephant." Intriguingly I also found http://www.hhpl.on.ca/GreatLakes/Wre...s.asp?ID=19729 http://www.hhpl.on.ca/GreatLakes/ima...tPortDover.jpg which contains this Gord related news from 1895 "SCHOONER AND CREW LOST. The Schooner NELLIE DUFF Foundered Off Lorain, O., Last Night--One man Rescued. Lorain, Oct. 14. - The schooner NELLIE DUFF foundered two miles off this port last night. The captain and two men were drowned. One man was rescued. " and "The schooner NELLIE DUFF, hailing from Detroit and bound from Pelee Island to Cleveland, loaded with gravel" Which sounds a trifle familiar!!! perhaps our resident bard Walter could compose an epic song about that "wreck" More details to flesh out the tale are on:- http://www.boatnerd.com/swayze/shipwreck/d.htm NELLIE DUFF Other names : none Official no. : 130334 Type at loss : schooner, wood Build info : 1885, Port Clinton, OH Specs : 77x20x6 54g 51n Date of loss : 1895, Oct 14 Place of loss : near Lorain, OH Lake : Erie Type of loss : storm Loss of life : 3 of 4 Carrying : gravel Detail : Cargo shifted in heavy seas while she was trying to make port at Lorain in a gale. She sank two miles out when she turned aside to make way for another distressed vessel. By the last day of the year she had disappeared completely. NELLIE A DUFF, C.B.BENSON and KATE WINSLOW, all schooners owned by the Duff family all were lost on Oct 14, but in different years. Sources: nsp,is,h,mv,ledc,wb,hgl Note the Lake it sank on To help/inspire you I googled for "what was the indian name for lake erie" and found "Dear Twig: Where does the "Erie" part of Lake Erie come from? A long time ago, around 1600 or so, an Indian nation lived, farmed and hunted on the south shore of Lake Erie. Except it wasn't called Lake Erie then. The nation was called Erielhonan -- "long tail," or "People of the Panther," a reference to the cougars (aka pumas, panthers, mountain lions) of the region. Sometimes the people wore cougar pelts." not quite as sonorous as Gitche whatsit I admit!! [ May 23, 2007, 11:37: Message edited by: johnfowles ] |
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