Was Robbed At Gunpoint Tonight
 

It was REALLY scary...

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Glad to see your ok M M but what a way to start a new year...

Stay safe & all the best to you !

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OMGOMG that's HORRIBLE!!! Glad you weren't seriously hurt. And hope all your belongings are recovered and that person is found and arrested! Also hope you decide against the gun :( though.

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How awful! I'm so sorry to hear this. Thankfully you weren't hurt badly or worse. I hope you get your belongings back too and that they find the perpetrator. So scary!

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How awful! I'm glad to hear you are not more seriously physically hurt but perhaps you should speak with a crisis counselor this week.
Hopefully the police will do their job with such good descriptions you gave..

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Glad to hear you're safe. My sister in Atlanta was confronted in broad daylight in a Sears parking lot by a young female with a baseball bat leveled at her head. Mary, whose adrenaline was flowing for about a week afterwards, stared her down and the girl finally took off, getting into a waiting car with a man in it. She figures it was her first attempt. The cops were also amazed at her detailed description but Mary has a photographic memory and could describe her down to her size 8 silver sneakers.

She was probably after the cash and drugs, maybe selling your credit cards for a few bucks. I always keep a copy of my credit card numbers and the phone number to contact for lost or stolen cards on a (password-protected) flashdrive at home.

Contact any one of the three major credit bureaus (see below) and put a fraud alert on your accounts for at least 90 days; they contact each other so you only have to do it once, and if you are a crime victim it should not cost you a dime. You may even want to put a temporary freeze on your credit accounts, which should also be free (so no one can use your ID to open new accounts in your name.)

Equifax: 1-800-525-6285; www.equifax.com; P.O. Box 740241, Atlanta, GA 30374-0241

Experian: 1-888-EXPERIAN (397-3742); www.experian.com; P.O. Box 2002, Allen, TX 75013

TransUnion: 1-800-680-7289; www.transunion.com; Fraud Victim Assistance Division, P.O. Box 6790, Fullerton, CA 92834-6790

If the stolen information includes your driver's license or other government-issued identification, contact the agencies that issued the documents (like the DMV) and follow their procedures to cancel a document and get a replacement. Ask the agency to "flag" your file to keep anyone else from getting a license or another identification document in your name. Same with any banking information, your pharmacy, and your doctors. Cleaning up a medical identity crime is complicated and time-consuming. You should immediately notify your health insurer, give them a copy of the police report and, as appropriate, send copies of the police report along with a letter to inform insurers, healthcare providers and credit bureaus. Ultimately, you should have any errors in your various medical files corrected.

Change the locks on your doors and add deadbolts if you didn't have them. For your own peace of mind a security system can be set up for not a lot of money. Contact your credit card companies and tell them what happened; close the old cards and ask for new cards; they may require a copy of the police report.

If you are a homeowner or even a renter, check your insurance policy to see if it covers expenses incurred due to the theft and assault (like replacing stolen car keys, which can get expensive to replace.) Notify your cell provider that any calls after whatever the date and time your cell was stolen are not yours. You may want to give a heads up to the folks whose numbers were on your cell, in case they get weird calls.

See the FTC site for lots of information: http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/microsites/idtheft/

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Misty,
Sorry to hear about your terrible ordeal. At least your safe. I can imagine all the thoughts going through your head even now. As for a firearm I say go for it , of course take some training. It will take take time for everything to come back together for you contacting and canceling, and getting everything replaced. May the rest of the year be peaceful.
Yes Gord's music does have a way of bringing peace and solitude back.

God Bless

Kevin

"Cast all you cares upon Him, for He cares for you"
1 Peter 5:7

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Are you sure that wasn't a Somali pirate ?

Good luck.....please heed Auburn Annie's advice.

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ok - coffee all over the place..
lol

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If you couldn't get to your can of mace I doubt that you would have been able to get to your gun.
Be sure to also get the locks changed on your cars. she has your address and your car keys.
The weapons class I was in said that women carry far too much in their purses. They should always empty their purse when they get home and only take the basics, one credit card and limited amounts of cash. I don't carry a purse so I travel light. My keys are attached to my belt loop and my gun is in my sweatshirt pocket. Some cash and a credit card in my pants pocket. Any insurance cards, registration or meds are in a small locked drawer in the very back of my van, manufactures hid it well. I leave nothing out in the open in my car that has my address on it. At all times I have 8 dogs (I have a rescue, I am not a hoarder) at my house and a .38 to back them up. Anyone who stole my car or my id would be wise to stay away.
MM your purse must have weighed a ton. It could have been a weapon in itself.
Glad you are okay, and hope the cops are moving on finding her.

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You're welcome - sorry you needed it. It's a pain to replace everything but your Amazon doesn't sound like the brightest bulb on the marquee - too strung out to do much beyond the basics. Sorry to say she was probably making a living hooking on the streets until her face melted with the meth. Her "friends" on the other hand are probably fences and ID thieves who pay her a pittance to get a lot. I like Bryan Cranston but can't watch Breaking Bad because meth and its cousins have such a bad effect on users/dealers/family members and the labs are such a danger to everyone, not to mention an environmental disaster. We get the occasional amateurs driving up from Pennsylvania to pilfer from local farmers' tanks.

With credit cards your loss is limited to $50 per card if you report it right away; debit cards don't have the same protection, depending on issuer. Usually you'll get most, if not everything, back that was in your accounts.

I also carry very little on me: Non-drivers ID, one credit card ($500 limit), my BJs membership card, stamps and $30 cash. I do have an address book with family names and mailing addresses and phone numbers but all of that is already on the internet. I have a pair of password protected 8GB flash drives on which I have family photos and account information (investments, checking, savings, passwords etc.) which I update as needed and leave the most recent one in my safe deposit box, so once in a while I might have that in my purse but they're going to have to know a long ago address that doesn't exist anymore to figure out the password. I never use family names, birthdays, etc but stick to fictional characters or deceased teachers or neighbors from back in the day.

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Annie, great idea on the non driver's license ID. I think I will get one, I never thought of that. Also great idea on the flash drives. That will have to go on my list of - to do's asap.

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Keep us posted Misty and I know dealing with a traumatic experience and everything after is very difficult to cope with, but it WILL get better as time goes on.

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Glad that you're OK! Hang in there.

Bill :)

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Oh my gosh Misty......that is terrifying. I thnak God that you're okay.

I am so glad to hear in, only the wrost that happened is the temporary loss of posessions.

Have you and the police been able to indentify this person yet? I hope so,that perosn doesn't just need to be locked up,they need serious help as well.

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Misty, so sorry to hear about your woes. At least you've kept a sense of humor. Being robbed by a handsome woman would be traumatic enough, but having to endure the stench is simply rude.
Glad your okay.

Brian

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Are you still hurt? It's no fun being robbed. Makes you think strange things. I was once robbed by 3 girls. I didn't have much money, and I never told the police, but one good thing happened right afterward. One of the girls ran back to return the money she had taken. Made my day.

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[QUOTE=MistyMoppens;157807]Brian,

I'm just still in shock and crying a lot. I'm usually don't cry much but I woke up that way today. I might have to get something from my doctor for anxiety because I'm just trembling all the time and I can't focus on anything..

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This is why you should seek out a crisis counselor-medication is just one way of dealing with this sort of trauma..perhaps even attending some group sessions for people who have had the same sorts of experiences.. medication will make the symptoms seem better but for your psychological health you should speak with someone asap.

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If the officers haven't already pointed you in this direction, check out the state's Victims Compensation Services. If you incur expenses (medical, counseling, etc. not covered by your insurance) you should look into it. In North Carolina the link is at http://www.nccrimecontrol.org/index2...=000003,000016

"Victims Compensation Services

Victims Compensation Services reimburses citizens who suffer medical expenses and lost wages as a result of being an innocent victim of a crime committed in North Carolina. Victims of rape, assault, child sexual abuse, domestic violence, and drunk driving, as well as the families of homicide victims are eligible to apply for financial help.

Since 1987, Victims Compensation Services has assisted innocent victims and their families to heal from the devastating effects of criminal violence with payments for a diversity of needs, including medical care, counseling, lost wages and funerals. Like other compensation programs, North Carolina is a payer of last resort paying for financial losses not covered by other sources, including, but not limited to:

Health Insurance
Auto or disability insurance
Public funds such as Medicaid
Workers Compensation; or
Restitution paid by an offender.
The program does NOT compensate victims for damaged or stolen property or for pain and suffering.

A maximum of $30,000 may be paid for an award, except when the victim dies as a result of the crime. In that case, an additional $5,000 may be paid to the survivors for funeral expenses. Benefits for approved claims are paid directly to a service provider.

While no amount of money can erase the trauma and grief victims suffer, this aid can be crucial in the recovery process. By paying for care that restores victims' physical and mental health, and by replacing lost income for victims who cannot work and for families who lose a breadwinner, compensation programs are helping victims regain their lives and their financial stability."

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That's great info Auburn A and Misty, I too encourage you to seek services for what you're going through. I agreed with Charlene, medications wouldn't resolve everything and have a lot of side effects too :(.

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The thought of getting in with a group of folks dealing with the same issues is excellent advice. We have our own little support group when I do chemo. It's not any organized thing - we're all just there because we're getting chemo and you can relate to each other because of the similar issues.

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After reading your horror story, it reminds me of why I keep certain critical items hidden in what we in my family call our "bank vault". That way, even if my purse were to be jerked off my arm, the most that would get taken would be a couple of bottles of water & some fast food wrappers. I wish you the best in finding the beast that robbed you. I know that times are tough for people, but surely they aren't so bad that one feels that they have to lower theirselves to the level of an animal?

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The chemo isn't a bad deal for me. My bone marrow doesn't work right. I'd been doing transfusions every two weeks for a couple of years. With the chemo 7 days a month (actually a bit less than a month) I'm back to making my own blood. No nausea and my hair is still on my head.

I'm at the Jersey shore - actually about 5 miles off the ocean. I like the areas you are talking about moving to. I may well move back to the NW Jersey hills. A slight shot at maybe Tallahassee. I lived there one year and really liked it but I'm pretty attached to where I grew up in those hills.

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I'm so sorry to hear this happened to you, Misty. I'll be keeping you in my prayers.

Chances are, this low-life b***h will be caught before long, and even if she's not, life's probably already a (deservingly) living hell for her anyway. No doubt they'll nail her if she attempts to use one of the debit cards.

Glad to hear the doctors replaced your medicine free of charge, and also glad that you made it out injury-free.

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sorry to hear this, kate...hope you're healing

holy! when we had the McVeigh's hug, i was gonna say 'was THAT a pistol or am i just happy to see you' lol

now, i did see signs at Massey about no video cameras or flash photography...i think guns are still ok

just throwing some nonsense in here but no laughing matter...while i'm no michael moore, i'm also no charleton heston...weapons for self defense make some sense, it's the ones for self-offense that are bothersome

it's just too bad that human confrontations couldn't be settled over something like rock paper scissors

may all member's 2010 be intrusion free

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Self-offense, good description.

I have my concealed weapon permit and went through the safety class. I got it because of driving mountain roads (with some not quite dead road kill) -that was the original thought. Now that I live in the city I carry it more often.

JJ-you were happy to see me!!! :)

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The things that are of most value to me that I'd grab in a fire are things like family photos, a stuffed toy from when I was a baby, letters from my long-deceased grandfather, etc. I actually have most of those things in a suitcase ready to toss out the window if need be. Things can be replaced; as long as my family and the dog are safe, I don't care. I have little of material value, seldom have more than $100 anywhere in the house, and am at an age where I am beginning to pare down things like credit cards.

Important computer files (tax records etc.) I keep on password-protected flash drives, at least one of which is in the safe deposit box at all times so I can reconstruct records if necessary, including household inventory. I probably overdo this stuff but that's me. My next project is to scan all the letters my mother wrote to me when I was in college (also siblings' and friends' letters) and email the files to my online storage and put a set on the drives, in case the physical letters and cards get damaged or destroyed.

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I too am impressed with Annie's organizational skills. I like the suitcase out the window idea.

Any news on the investigation, Misty Moppens?

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good thinkin, i'd do the same if they were legal to have in vehicle up here...the very first week living out this way i saw a deer in convulsions on side of road with the distraught driver of vehicle that hit it (and the very upset kids) looking on helplessly...the cops took car of things pretty quickly

similar scene just last month...anyhow, there's many deer and wild dogs around these days...i carry a handy blade and harmonica when i'm wandering about (my playing will have them all in retreat)

good tips, annie

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Hey there Fezo! Good to hear that things seem to be looking a little more sunny for you on the health front. As always, I keep you in my prayers.

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I come by my organizational skills honestly. As some of you know I was a librarian by profession, so categorizing and sorting are ingrained. But I also inherited much of it from my parents, who had 9 of us. When you're trying to keep 9 kids' appointments, school meetings, sports events, lunches and laundry from becoming overwhelming you have to be organized to keep your sanity. And it only gets worse when we hit our teens and were coming and going to friends' houses. I used to tell my mother she needed an airline arrival and departure board. Mind you, we learned early to be independent (also arrive on time for dinner or tough luck) and manage our own affairs. Calling to make my own appointments killed me because I was terrifically shy and hated talking on the phone.

Obviously I survived, so much so that not only do I take care of my own issues but those of a disabled sister in Atlanta. I had to call in the local PD last week when no one could reach her for days. I knew she was almost out of her medications (her 80-year-old doctor is undergoing chemo himself) and had started going into withdrawal. As it turned out, one phone was off-hook and she'd forgotten she'd turned off her cellphone at the movies and never turned it on again. The fact that she lives alone and loses the ability to walk intermittently due to a bad disk AND has blacked out at least once due to low blood sugar and concussed herself means I can't assume it's just an off-hook phone. Unfortunately, as I learned when she was flooded in September along with much of Atlanta, her neighbors are less than helpful ("tell her to call 911.") Sigh. She lives in chaos which costs her in anxiety, money, and energy. I went down in 2002 to get her paperwork ready for her disability hearing and spent a week organizing 200 files of papers that covered the dining room table and floor, in cartons. Can't wait until she's ready to sell the house and move back to NY.

When I was younger I was the "loan arranger", the unofficial savings and loan among my siblings, lending funds for textbooks and supplies and the occasional semester. Even though I've been out of work since October 2008 I still provide help where I can to tide over those who are down to a fiver and need the 15-year-old washer fixed. I keep my eye out for buy-one-get-one-free groceries and stockpile a family food pantry of sorts with canned soups and meats, noodles, rice, beans, veggies and whatever else I can manage (my homemade chili goes a long way.) Walmart sells those Hormel Compleats for under $2 each and I grab a half dozen to ship to Atlanta when I can; they're shelf stable and just the right size for Mary who has the appetite of a bird.

I'm not the only one, of course. One brother looks after our youngest sister who has Asperger's and other developmental problems. Sometimes we kid each other about who has the bigger crisis of the week. Lately we've been neck and neck. Calgon take me away!!!

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You're a very kind and loving sister Annie....

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WOW Annie!! Your family is very fortunate to have you for a sis!!

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Oh we all have our issues (especially shortly after our parents died - pretty tense there for a while) but mostly we hang together and do what we can for everyone. I may be up when another sib is down and vice versa. It all works out in the end.

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Nah. I'm a librarian myself and the most disorganized person you'll ever meet......

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Well I HAD to be, since my entire career I was a solo, nobody else to fall back on but one 80 year old volunteer once a week. Most of that time I worked as a hospital librarian, with doctors who needed drug interactions, surgical techniques, meta studies like yesterday (and they weren't ER docs, either - surgeons usually.) I worked with almost 100 doctors, 250 nurses, technicians, therapists, administrators, office staff and janitors, plus patients and their families. Like my Dad's, my desk looked like a paper factory exploded and, like him, I knew exactly where the folder with the quarterly budget was, or the orientation papers, or the draft of the article I was writing was tucked. Everything had to be easy to run in case I went on vacation (or maternity leave - you should have seen the panicked looks I got - "you ARE coming back, right??)

Where did you / do you work? Aside from the hospital I spent 5 years in a community college library, too.

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I don't need a CCW Permit because the US Constitution & Bill of Rights already guarantees that. If anyone threatens me or my family, I am Required to Protect myself and them, with Deadly Force. It's as simple as that.

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I'm not a constittional lawyer, so I won't go there. Just state law as easily found for, in this case, Oregon. As a law-abiding citizen-patriot you no doubt have followed the rules listed below:


How to Get a Permit to Carry a Concealed Weapon in Oregon

Oregon is a "shall issue" state. A carry and conceal weapon (CCW) permit will be issued to anyone who qualifies but will not serve as a National Instant Criminal System (NICS) check. The issuing authority is the county sheriff. The following steps will show how to obtain a CCW license in Oregon.

Step 1 Be 21 years of age and a resident of Oregon. The sheriff may waive the residency requirement if you are a resident of a contiguous state (California, Idaho, Nevada or Washington) and can demonstrate a legitimate need for a CCW permit in Oregon.

Step 2 Complete an approved firearms safety or training course. Oregon does not recognize CCW permits from any other state.

Step 3 Fill out the application form at your local sheriff's office. Each county uses its own form; there is no standard. Submit the completed application form, two forms of identification (one must have a photo), your firearms training certificate and the permit fee. The sheriff's office will take your fingerprints and photos.

Step 4 Receive your permit or be denied within 45 days. If you are denied, the sheriff must give you the reason in writing.

Step 5 Renew your permit every four years by paying the renewal fee. You are not required to inform law enforcement officials you are carrying a concealed weapon, but you must have your permit on your person and present it upon demand.

Step 6 Obtain written permission from a tribal judge to carry a concealed weapon onto an Indian reservation or other Indian property.

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Also, I don't know about that "required" bit but use of deadly force by civilians requires more than simple threat of violence:

"When deadly force is used by a private citizen, the reasonableness rule does not apply. The citizen must be able to prove that a felony occurred or was being attempted, and that the felony threatened death or bodily harm. Mere suspicion of a felony is considered an insufficient ground for a private citizen to use deadly force.

This was demonstrated in the Michigan case of People v. Couch, 436 Mich. 414, 461 N.W.2d 683 (1990), where the defendant shot and killed a suspected felon who was fleeing the scene of the crime. The Michigan supreme court ruled that Archie L. Couch did not have the right to use deadly force against the suspected felon because the suspect did not pose a threat of injury or death to Couch."

http://www.answers.com/topic/deadly-force

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Now see, with that medical background you do have to be organized and accurate.

I've been a reference librarian in a public system for about ever. That wasn't my plan but it worked out all right. Went up into middle management and hated it so moved back down to public service again. I'm the sort that likes to know a little bit about everything so in that respect it's a good career match.

In 2 years, 11 months and 9 days I'll likely be collecting pension and Social Security. Not that I'm counting or anything.... I could start collecting the pension any time I want but that's not enough to live on.