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Painter 02-12-2002 04:23 PM

"Daylight Katy" written about "Cathy Smith" a Toronto woman who was a very close friend of Gord's. It was Smith who administered the lethal drug cocktail that ended John Belushi's life. Smith spent seven months in jail for her part in Belushi's O.D. The Belushi family to this day, feels she got off too lightly.
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"Old Dans Records." Does anyone have definitive information on this one? I believe the "Old Dan" may have been a childhood neighbor or family friend of the Lightfoots, in Orillia Ontario, Canada. It may very well have been "Old Dan" that inspired Gord to become the great writer/singer he is.
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Can anyone add to other GL songs?

Ladysbird 02-12-2002 04:23 PM

"Daylight Katy" written about "Cathy Smith" a Toronto woman who was a very close friend of Gord's. It was Smith who administered the lethal drug cocktail that ended John Belushi's life. Smith spent seven months in jail for her part in Belushi's O.D. The Belushi family to this day, feels she got off too lightly.
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"Old Dans Records." Does anyone have definitive information on this one? I believe the "Old Dan" may have been a childhood neighbor or family friend of the Lightfoots, in Orillia Ontario, Canada. It may very well have been "Old Dan" that inspired Gord to become the great writer/singer he is.
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Can anyone add to other GL songs?

char 02-12-2002 04:28 PM

It's also been said that "Old Dan's Records" is a play on words to "old Dance Records".
char

Painter 02-12-2002 04:31 PM

quote:Originally posted by char:
It's also been said that "Old Dan's Records" is a play on words to "old Dance Records".
char



Ladysbird 02-12-2002 04:31 PM

quote:Originally posted by char:
It's also been said that "Old Dan's Records" is a play on words to "old Dance Records".
char



Painter 02-12-2002 04:33 PM

Hello Char, thank you for that. I was hoping there may have been a real life "Old Dan" that would add a little more romanticism to the GL story.

Ladysbird 02-12-2002 04:33 PM

Hello Char, thank you for that. I was hoping there may have been a real life "Old Dan" that would add a little more romanticism to the GL story.

Bahama Star 02-12-2002 05:00 PM

Char, I remember you once told us that you had found " Old Bill Skinners Stream " ??

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catmanron 02-12-2002 05:00 PM

Char, I remember you once told us that you had found " Old Bill Skinners Stream " ??

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char 02-12-2002 05:14 PM

it could be the stream up in Marchmont, outside of Orillia where the old mill was and where Lightfoot used to go fishing on his bike.
Lots of pussywillows and cat-tails along the way.....
char

Painter 02-12-2002 06:24 PM

This site is a delight!
I'm learning more and more about GL and his sometime curious lyrcis and wonderful music.
Thank you so much.

Ladysbird 02-12-2002 06:24 PM

This site is a delight!
I'm learning more and more about GL and his sometime curious lyrcis and wonderful music.
Thank you so much.

Painter 02-13-2002 12:51 AM

Yes she was, in Toronto I believe. And wasn't she a singer as well? Either in a back-up group, or solo?


Ladysbird 02-13-2002 12:51 AM

Yes she was, in Toronto I believe. And wasn't she a singer as well? Either in a back-up group, or solo?


Bahama Star 02-13-2002 08:14 PM

Welcome Ladysbird http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

Please ask us any questions you like, we will all answer, then argue about who is correct... lol.

I believe that Cathy Smith was one of Gords backup singers for some time. Some people say that she is pictured behind Gord on the cover of "Cold on the Shoulder", others say that the person pictured is actually Jan Stephenson ( not the golfer ), maybe someone out there can shed some light on this.

Keep Smiling Ron http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

[This message has been edited by catmanron (edited February 13, 2002).]

catmanron 02-13-2002 08:14 PM

Welcome Ladysbird http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

Please ask us any questions you like, we will all answer, then argue about who is correct... lol.

I believe that Cathy Smith was one of Gords backup singers for some time. Some people say that she is pictured behind Gord on the cover of "Cold on the Shoulder", others say that the person pictured is actually Jan Stephenson ( not the golfer ), maybe someone out there can shed some light on this.

Keep Smiling Ron http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

[This message has been edited by catmanron (edited February 13, 2002).]

Painter 02-13-2002 11:01 PM

Hello Ron, I love your attitude re: posting any questions, then we'll argue the accuracy of the answer(s).
So many questions, and so little Lightfoot.

"Old Dans Records" is at the top of my list,
given I could meet him in person, and pry gently into his mind. Until someone confirms otherwise, I'll keep my vision of Old Dan as a somewhat reclusive neighbor of the Lightfoots, who shared his stack of 78's with a pubescent Gordon. That's so much more romantic a beginning of greatness, than just listening to scratchy old "dance records."

Ladysbird 02-13-2002 11:01 PM

Hello Ron, I love your attitude re: posting any questions, then we'll argue the accuracy of the answer(s).
So many questions, and so little Lightfoot.

"Old Dans Records" is at the top of my list,
given I could meet him in person, and pry gently into his mind. Until someone confirms otherwise, I'll keep my vision of Old Dan as a somewhat reclusive neighbor of the Lightfoots, who shared his stack of 78's with a pubescent Gordon. That's so much more romantic a beginning of greatness, than just listening to scratchy old "dance records."

Bahama Star 02-14-2002 08:26 PM

You know I think a good song is like a good book, It inspires our imagination. We all see different things, depending upon our own experiences.
The amazing thing about Gords songs are that as we grow older, they grow with us, and we see totally different things in the Lyrics, how does he achieve that ??.. He's a genius.

Have a great weekend everyone
Keep Smiling.. Ron http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

catmanron 02-14-2002 08:26 PM

You know I think a good song is like a good book, It inspires our imagination. We all see different things, depending upon our own experiences.
The amazing thing about Gords songs are that as we grow older, they grow with us, and we see totally different things in the Lyrics, how does he achieve that ??.. He's a genius.

Have a great weekend everyone
Keep Smiling.. Ron http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

Painter 02-15-2002 08:54 AM

So many of GL's lyrics have a thread of "real life" woven through them. Old Dan's Records:

" I remember my aunt Bea,she danced with Dan till two or three."
"If old Dan could see us now, he'd be so proud."
"Back to 1935, jitterbug and jive."
"High above the fireplace, there's a smile on Old Dan's face."

You're so right Ron, about the good book parallel and our imagintions. I believe Old Dan lived. And so did aunt Bea. And I'd love to see that painting above the fireplace.

Ladysbird 02-15-2002 08:54 AM

So many of GL's lyrics have a thread of "real life" woven through them. Old Dan's Records:

" I remember my aunt Bea,she danced with Dan till two or three."
"If old Dan could see us now, he'd be so proud."
"Back to 1935, jitterbug and jive."
"High above the fireplace, there's a smile on Old Dan's face."

You're so right Ron, about the good book parallel and our imagintions. I believe Old Dan lived. And so did aunt Bea. And I'd love to see that painting above the fireplace.

vlmagee 02-15-2002 04:12 PM

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Painter 02-15-2002 11:23 PM

I wish I knew how to post a HUGE smily in here, to reflect my feelings when I surfed your site. The MOTHERLODE of GL lyric information! So, there wasn't a real "Old Dan," but fairly close. Somehow "Get out old Uncle Jacks records" wouldn't have cut it.

Thanks Valerie .. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/redface.gif)

Ladysbird 02-15-2002 11:23 PM

I wish I knew how to post a HUGE smily in here, to reflect my feelings when I surfed your site. The MOTHERLODE of GL lyric information! So, there wasn't a real "Old Dan," but fairly close. Somehow "Get out old Uncle Jacks records" wouldn't have cut it.

Thanks Valerie .. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/redface.gif)

Brenda 02-16-2002 10:28 AM

quote:Originally posted by catmanron:
Welcome Ladysbird :) :)

Please ask us any questions you like, we will all answer, then argue about who is correct... lol.

I believe that Cathy Smith was one of Gords backup singers for some time. Some people say that she is pictured behind Gord on the cover of "Cold on the Shoulder", others say that the person pictured is actually Jan Stephenson ( not the golfer ), maybe someone out there can shed some light on this.

Keep Smiling Ron :) :) :)

[This message has been edited by catmanron (edited February 13, 2002).]


I believe Cathy Smith sang harmony on "High And Dry" (from the "Sundown" album). Other than that, I don't know that she was active with his career.

Westernstar9 02-16-2002 10:28 AM

quote:Originally posted by catmanron:
Welcome Ladysbird :) :)

Please ask us any questions you like, we will all answer, then argue about who is correct... lol.

I believe that Cathy Smith was one of Gords backup singers for some time. Some people say that she is pictured behind Gord on the cover of "Cold on the Shoulder", others say that the person pictured is actually Jan Stephenson ( not the golfer ), maybe someone out there can shed some light on this.

Keep Smiling Ron :) :) :)

[This message has been edited by catmanron (edited February 13, 2002).]


I believe Cathy Smith sang harmony on "High And Dry" (from the "Sundown" album). Other than that, I don't know that she was active with his career.

CanadaGirl38 02-19-2002 07:37 PM

Ding! Ding! Ding!

Right you are! That's her. I'll swear she's somewhere else doing backup but High and Dry I know. One of the sleepers of the Sundown album - there are actually a lot of those...

fezo 02-19-2002 07:37 PM

Ding! Ding! Ding!

Right you are! That's her. I'll swear she's somewhere else doing backup but High and Dry I know. One of the sleepers of the Sundown album - there are actually a lot of those...

joveski 02-20-2002 12:08 AM

i wouldn't classify high and dry as a sleeper. for some reason it was one of the first songs that i really got into on that album (i prefer it over the title track or carefree highway). Too late for prayin' tends to be more of a sleeper for me, but that's just my opinion!

Brian 57 04-12-2002 12:28 AM

High and Dry is really neat. It's an anthem for any guy that had a girlfriend stolen away by somebody who turned out to be a bum, and is real easy to sing at the top of your lungs (even sober).

jj 09-22-2009 09:38 PM

Re: True Life Gordon Lightfoot Songs
 
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Originally Posted by Bahama Star (Post 68464)
Char, I remember you once told us that you had found " Old Bill Skinners Stream " ??

Keep Smiling.. Ron. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

i was searching for something unrelated but came across this post...a few months ago a family member mentioned she was doing some hairdressing for Bev Lightfoot's BFF and she mentioned how young Gord used to hang about and try annoy them the way little brothers do:)

a few weeks later she was doing hair for the widow of the late Bill Skinner (i guess it's still a small town after all)...I'll ask if there's an upcoming appointment and have her casually ask more about the stream....not sure, but i believe they show a clip of it as well as old Bill in the old Telescope documentary...you can certainly see that old mill

this is of course hear say, only her hairdresser knows for sure

charlene 09-22-2009 11:32 PM

Re: True Life Gordon Lightfoot Songs
 
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I have pics (I lost ALL of my 'stuff' on my computer-10 years worth) so will scan what I took of a stream and mill back in 2000 when I went to Mariposa..

I salvaged a few pics and some folks have sent me stuff via e-mail and on discs..sadly it won't come close to getting my inventory up to what it was..
:(


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