Can someone help me settle a bet? What was GL's first hit, ie, that he recorded himself (probably as a single). Was it Ribbon of Darkness or The Way I Feel?
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Can someone help me settle a bet? What was GL's first hit, ie, that he recorded himself (probably as a single). Was it Ribbon of Darkness or The Way I Feel?
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Perhaps the answer lies in "which country."
Marty Robbins reading of Ribbon Darkness in America. I truly don't know about Canadia (sounds more regal that way.) Hope someone knows that answer. I'd like to learn, too. Adios, The Rez |
As far as Canada is concerned, I'm pretty sure "Remember Me" was Gord's first hit.
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As far as Canada is concerned, I'm pretty sure "Remember Me" was Gord's first hit.
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I know this is irrelevant to the crux of your question, (yes we are back woods and it is obviously way later), but thought it may be of interest. The answer in Australia is "If You Could read My Mind". It reached No 7. in our top 40 just 34 short years ago - April 29 1971.
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I think that's the answer for us in the States, too, Steve.
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as this site http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.c...=U1ARTU0002075 puts it:- "and performed at the 1962 Mariposa Folk Festival. His recording of 'Remember Me' for Chateau was popular locally" i.e. Toronto area only?? that review does go on to say "Ian and Sylvia (Tyson) were the first to sing and record his songs, beginning with 'For Lovin' Me' and 'Early Morning Rain.' The first was a substantial hit in 1965 for Peter, Paul and Mary" but the very interesting site (that should be required reading for all fans of Canadian music):- http://www.canadianbands.com/bios_1b.html from where you could download free desktop mp3 dancers if you are so inclined says quite unequivocally "It was during this time that he also had his first single as a solo artist, 1962's "Remember Me"." I note that it does not actually say that it was a "hit" and I do not know how big a hit it might have been(as measured by chart position) anyway However for me Gord's first major hit in his own right was the rather neglected "Spin Spin" that climbed as high as number 6 in October 1966 See this great chart listing site:- http://www.webfitz.com/lyrics/Charts/1966/Ch196610.html [img]http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0TwCfArcYlPHQdE0GsSB5a!BVRBZ1EMrtgUOSamrHxJCivsb8G uldqeNnLV*58TzbEQsBLK3u*LoCbFh0na4EjdQEizlQqO2kXCy KaG4WrL!0eMwHSlutWw/spin_spin_19660.jpg[/img] John Fowles To be in love is to be insane Make an old man groan, a young man pain [ May 28, 2005, 21:45: Message edited by: johnfowles ] |
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as this site http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.c...=U1ARTU0002075 puts it:- "and performed at the 1962 Mariposa Folk Festival. His recording of 'Remember Me' for Chateau was popular locally" i.e. Toronto area only?? that review does go on to say "Ian and Sylvia (Tyson) were the first to sing and record his songs, beginning with 'For Lovin' Me' and 'Early Morning Rain.' The first was a substantial hit in 1965 for Peter, Paul and Mary" but the very interesting site (that should be required reading for all fans of Canadian music):- http://www.canadianbands.com/bios_1b.html from where you could download free desktop mp3 dancers if you are so inclined says quite unequivocally "It was during this time that he also had his first single as a solo artist, 1962's "Remember Me"." I note that it does not actually say that it was a "hit" and I do not know how big a hit it might have been(as measured by chart position) anyway However for me Gord's first major hit in his own right was the rather neglected "Spin Spin" that climbed as high as number 6 in October 1966 See this great chart listing site:- http://www.webfitz.com/lyrics/Charts/1966/Ch196610.html [img]http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0TwCfArcYlPHQdE0GsSB5a!BVRBZ1EMrtgUOSamrHxJCivsb8G uldqeNnLV*58TzbEQsBLK3u*LoCbFh0na4EjdQEizlQqO2kXCy KaG4WrL!0eMwHSlutWw/spin_spin_19660.jpg[/img] John Fowles To be in love is to be insane Make an old man groan, a young man pain [ May 28, 2005, 21:45: Message edited by: johnfowles ] |
"In 1962 Remember Me (I'm the one) hit the charts in Canada." Where on the charts I don't have a clue.
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"In 1962 Remember Me (I'm the one) hit the charts in Canada." Where on the charts I don't have a clue.
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My God, I remember all those songs.. and loved 'em all!! Jeez, I'm old!
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Like now, if you could see the yoga pose in which I'm typing. Then again, I used to pay for that feeling, now it's free of charge - I think. Bad Day (upside down for Good Night) The Rez |
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I merely googled for "Remember Me" Canadian Charts and inmmediately found:- http://www.webfitz.com/lyrics/Charts/1962/Ch196207.html showing that Remember Me was at number 3 in July 1962 and was in fact a bigger hit than "Spin spin" http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SwCfA...emember_Me.jpg The previous week's chart is interesting in particular Somerset lad Acker Bilk at number 48 That summer I attended the very last Bealieu (Bewley) Jazz festival in England and saw the Bilk band fighting their way onto the stage I have a vivid memory of the double bass player using it and its splike as a battering ram to clear a way through the rioting fans crowding the stage and no doubt using some choice Anglo Saxon language to boot Incidentally in the CBC archives the Country Howdown video after the demonstrationn of Gord's adroitness at country dancing there is a very sweet video of Remember Me John Fowles I'm the one who ran away and left you all alone I'm the one who broke your heart and scorned the love I'd known [ May 29, 2005, 15:42: Message edited by: johnfowles ] |
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I merely googled for "Remember Me" Canadian Charts and inmmediately found:- http://www.webfitz.com/lyrics/Charts/1962/Ch196207.html showing that Remember Me was at number 3 in July 1962 and was in fact a bigger hit than "Spin spin" http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SwCfA...emember_Me.jpg The previous week's chart is interesting in particular Somerset lad Acker Bilk at number 48 That summer I attended the very last Bealieu (Bewley) Jazz festival in England and saw the Bilk band fighting their way onto the stage I have a vivid memory of the double bass player using it and its splike as a battering ram to clear a way through the rioting fans crowding the stage and no doubt using some choice Anglo Saxon language to boot Incidentally in the CBC archives the Country Howdown video after the demonstrationn of Gord's adroitness at country dancing there is a very sweet video of Remember Me John Fowles I'm the one who ran away and left you all alone I'm the one who broke your heart and scorned the love I'd known [ May 29, 2005, 15:42: Message edited by: johnfowles ] |
Hey Mike! :)
In my first months as a GL fan,I went back through all the old Billboard Hot 100 charts from 1965 until GL's last H.100 "Baby Step Back" #50 in '82. From '65 to '70 only other artists had some success here with his songs. In the states,"If You Could Read my Mind" was his first self-recorded chart hit and it peaked at #5 in Feb. '71. None of his UA singles hit the top 40 here. "If I Could" (from UA) was released just after but reached a measley #111 (outside the Hot 100.) Before "Sundown" Gord had some minor chart action with "Summer Side Of Life" #98,Talking In Your Sleep" #68. "DQ" LP had "Beautiful" at #58. "O.D's.R" gave us "That Same Old Obsession w/the flipside "You Are What I Am". #'s 101 & 102. "Sundown" went to #1, "Carefree Highway" #10. "Rainy Day People" #26. "Wreck" #2 for 2 weeks. "Race Among The Ruins" #65 and "The Circle is Small" #33. Gordon hasn't been on the charts himself since March of 1978 I.E. 27 years. :( He was last on as a songwriter when the group,"Stars On 54" did a disco version of "..Read My Mind" in 1998 for the movie "54". It actually made the top 60,outdoing some of Gord's own chart hits. :rolleyes: well,there you have it,your answer and then some. ;) Later! :cool: |
Great Work Brother John,
All us Yanks seem to think Gord's career began w/ The Mind Reading Song. Did he chart as an artist before that in the US? I saw him solo at The Golden Bear and Troubador in the 60's & have been doing Black Day in July since, well, Black Day in July. Is this the one and only time I've been ahead of the curve? Thanks GoogleJohnny. You are priceless. The Rez . . . Motor City's burning and the flames are runnin' wild |
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After I posted that I thought that maybe I had the wrong year for the Beaulieu riots and did a google search I then found an interesting article in the UK Guardian newspaper on-line at:- http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/criti...744505,00.html Summers: the top 10 Summer of Trad (1960) Key work: When the Saints Go Marching In, by Mr Acker Bilk and His Paramount Jazz Band http://freespace.virgin.net/f.cassidy/Newlineup1.jpg Note the picture above has been added by me to illustrate Bernard (Acker) Bilk as he looks nowadays No musical trend seems as alien today as the trad jazz revival. But at the start of the 60s, rock'n'roll had waned in popularity. In a musical vacuum, the sound of Mr Acker Bilk and His Paramount Jazz Band was, bogglingly, adopted as a teenage alternative. Their dress sense suggested that trad-jazz ravers were trying to imitate American beatniks. Somewhere in the mid-Atlantic, however, the signals got confused. Bare feet, jeans and CND symbols were big, but so were bowler hats. Cider replaced marijuana as the drug of choice. The liberating modern jazz favoured by Jack Kerouac and Neal Cassady was roundly dismissed in favour of perky readings of When the Saints Go Marching In. Newspapers mocked the ravers' dancing as "jumping from foot to foot like a performing bear". The strength of feeling against modern jazz caused a riot as the movement reached its zenith in the summer of 1960. Irked by Johnny Dankworth's modern playing at the July Beaulieu Jazz Festival, ravers began chanting for Acker Bilk. Then they began fighting. A lighting tower was toppled. One game raver scaled the outside of the stately home and, in a protest as bizarre as the trad revival itself, began waving his bowler hat from the battlements.It was all very peculiar, and it wasn't built to last. While jazz fans were thumping each other in Hampshire, the Silver Beatles were in Liverpool, packing their bags for a long residency in a Hamburg nightclub. Events were about to overtake the ravers and consign the trad jazz craze to history Note trad jazz (traditional i.e. New Orleans style) kept me occupied music wise from my early love of Rock and Roll in its initial "pure' period (Presley/Holly/Everlys) through the later phase before the Beatles changed pop music for ever in 1964.And then in 1966 I discovered Gordon Lightfoot John Fowles Don't beat me down, don't beat me down I've got one life to live and that's all I can give, so don't beat me down [ May 30, 2005, 13:07: Message edited by: johnfowles ] |
[quote]Originally posted by johnfowles:
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After I posted that I thought that maybe I had the wrong year for the Beaulieu riots and did a google search I then found an interesting article in the UK Guardian newspaper on-line at:- http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/criti...744505,00.html Summers: the top 10 Summer of Trad (1960) Key work: When the Saints Go Marching In, by Mr Acker Bilk and His Paramount Jazz Band http://freespace.virgin.net/f.cassidy/Newlineup1.jpg Note the picture above has been added by me to illustrate Bernard (Acker) Bilk as he looks nowadays No musical trend seems as alien today as the trad jazz revival. But at the start of the 60s, rock'n'roll had waned in popularity. In a musical vacuum, the sound of Mr Acker Bilk and His Paramount Jazz Band was, bogglingly, adopted as a teenage alternative. Their dress sense suggested that trad-jazz ravers were trying to imitate American beatniks. Somewhere in the mid-Atlantic, however, the signals got confused. Bare feet, jeans and CND symbols were big, but so were bowler hats. Cider replaced marijuana as the drug of choice. The liberating modern jazz favoured by Jack Kerouac and Neal Cassady was roundly dismissed in favour of perky readings of When the Saints Go Marching In. Newspapers mocked the ravers' dancing as "jumping from foot to foot like a performing bear". The strength of feeling against modern jazz caused a riot as the movement reached its zenith in the summer of 1960. Irked by Johnny Dankworth's modern playing at the July Beaulieu Jazz Festival, ravers began chanting for Acker Bilk. Then they began fighting. A lighting tower was toppled. One game raver scaled the outside of the stately home and, in a protest as bizarre as the trad revival itself, began waving his bowler hat from the battlements.It was all very peculiar, and it wasn't built to last. While jazz fans were thumping each other in Hampshire, the Silver Beatles were in Liverpool, packing their bags for a long residency in a Hamburg nightclub. Events were about to overtake the ravers and consign the trad jazz craze to history Note trad jazz (traditional i.e. New Orleans style) kept me occupied music wise from my early love of Rock and Roll in its initial "pure' period (Presley/Holly/Everlys) through the later phase before the Beatles changed pop music for ever in 1964.And then in 1966 I discovered Gordon Lightfoot John Fowles Don't beat me down, don't beat me down I've got one life to live and that's all I can give, so don't beat me down [ May 30, 2005, 13:07: Message edited by: johnfowles ] |
Borderstone, you sound like a DJ great information. That must have taken a lot of research thanks.
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Borderstone, you sound like a DJ great information. That must have taken a lot of research thanks.
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Gordon hasn't been on the charts himself since March of 1978 I.E. 27 years. :(
According to Wayne Francis'site, "Anything for Love" from the '86 "East of Midnight" album hit #71 on the Billboard C&W chart. RMD |
Gordon hasn't been on the charts himself since March of 1978 I.E. 27 years. :(
According to Wayne Francis'site, "Anything for Love" from the '86 "East of Midnight" album hit #71 on the Billboard C&W chart. RMD |
Cool shot of Mr. Acker Bilk and the Boys.
Like you, John, I loved traditional jazz. Most folks don't know it, but trad jazz isn't the same as Dixieland. Long ago I thought so too, until I started playing it. There was a group, The Orange Pealers Jazz Band, here in OC (hence the name) and they did all is great stuff. They were all older guys at it a long time. When the piano guy couldn't make a gig, I filled in. They had this little 3/4 size piano, wonderfully out of tune thru transport in a pickup. And nobody had a trumpet. Two Cornets (trad jazz style) 4-String Kid Ory type Banjo (like Eddie Peabody, too) Licorice Stick. Small trap set w/ all sorts of horns & percussion. All instrumental: Lu Watters "Sweet Lotus Blossom" (they specialized in Lu Watters, who knew very well what Sweet Lotus Blossom was) "Big Butter and Egg Man" So cool. And all the charts had "road maps" for who lead when, & form, etc. Then they thru some Jelly Roll Morton in front of me. My Dear Lord, that man must have had five arms. I could approximate it, but never got close to hittin' all the notes. Those Cornet guys would cut loose w/ Bix Beiderbecke and I was in heaven. Thank goodness Bix didn't play piano. More sheer fun that i've had playing any other style of music. Put a cork in it, Rez. OK. The Rez |
I used to love Dixieland. Haven't listened to my records (L.P.'S!!) in quite a while...
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Sheryl,
While Traditional Jazz morphed into Dixieland, both are, as Gord says, "toe-tappers." One of my fondest teenhood memories is on a date w/ Becky Totten to Disneyland (Mom drove) Dixieland at Disneyland they called it. This nite would have been around '59 or '60. The Mark Twain came 'round the bend, bright lights and full regalia, to that singular sound of Pops coronet - Louis Armstrong. With him on the bow was Kid Ory and King Oliver, part of Pops' days with The Hot Five and The Hot Seven, w/ wife Lil. It was the touchstone to an era never to remotely come again - when the music was bornin'. They played Saint James Infirmary, The Saints, Miss New Orleens, and Just a Closer Walk w/ Thee. Others too, like South Rampart Street Parade, Hi-Steppin' Blues. Pops did some scattin'. And everyone took a solo at once - that's the way Dixieland is as opposed to Trad Jazz - and it was perfect. Even got a kiss at the door - high cotton, The Rez [ May 31, 2005, 03:42: Message edited by: The Rez ] |
Okay,to "Reminder",when I said Gord had not charted "top 40" since 1978,I was talking about the Pop/Hot 100.
To reiterate,his last Hot 100 hit as a recording act was "Baby Step Back" (#50 in May of '82). Nothing from "Salute" or "EOM" made the Hot 100. I do recall "Anything For Love" making the C & W chart (which I still feel is an odd place for it to have charted.) Brink,thanks for the compliment. I've known these stats. for so long,I can pretty much do them from my mind. There's a thread here somewhere in which I quoted these same facts,most likely in 2003. Ah,Rez...if you re-read my last message,I stated that only "other" recording artists had some luck with GL's songs on the chart. I also stated that I checked back as far as 1965,so "...Read my Mind" is his first solo chart hit here ever. He had none before on his own. ;) Later! :cool: P.S.-I have a very good copy of Acker Bilk's "Stranger On The Shore" LP. I love that song. :) (Andy Williams did a vocal version,I wonder what that's like?) :eek: !!!!! |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Borderstone:
Okay,to "Reminder",when I said Gord had not charted "top 40" since 1978,I was talking about the Pop/Hot 100. To reiterate,his last Hot 100 hit as a recording act was "Baby Step Back" (#50 in May of '82). Fair enough. You win. RMD |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Borderstone:
Okay,to "Reminder",when I said Gord had not charted "top 40" since 1978,I was talking about the Pop/Hot 100. To reiterate,his last Hot 100 hit as a recording act was "Baby Step Back" (#50 in May of '82). Fair enough. You win. RMD |
Sorry Borderstone, I've never been guilty of understand what I read. You answered my question even before I asked it - are you psychotic? (I am hip to large words.)
I'm trying to recall this moment where it was I first even heard Gord's music by him. Just seems like he was always there - even here in Balboa. The Rez |
Rez -- I think you mean "psychic" !!!! Not psychotic! LOL!
Also, YES, that's where I first got my love of Dixieland music -- at Disneyland!!! Listening to it in the Carnation Plaza with the band playing.... ahhh, what memories..!! |
No, Sheryl,
I know all the large words like "ambidexterous" means you can breath underwater at the same time as frogs; "defibrillator" is a lie detector; and then are are the Three "H"s - Hungry, Horney, and Tired. All of which I am, The Rez . . . keep your dreams as clean as a "hypocondriac," w/ syringe |
Ummn Rez... Being familiar with this phrase, I think 'Tired' is supposed to be 'Happy"... 3rd H.
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Not to a true musician.
Besides, three "H"s that actually countained three "H" words, wouldn't pass the Groucho test. The Rez . . . Heep-em-Wep-mo: a word I've never been able say or spell, but it my life long favorite descriptive, noun, et. al. Notice how it roles off the tongue (and follows the meatball On top of Spaghetti) Ah, Groucho . . . ah, Bullwinkle . . . ah, Rumblers . . . |
"NO I"M NOT PSYCHOTIC!!! :D " Just playin'! ;)
I just have a god head for info. & facts. :) Sometimes,I'll admit,it does give me a bit of a headache. I have too many books and songs and TV shows & movies in my brain! [img]tongue.gif[/img] :D Help!!! (Ha,ha,ha.) |
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