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John, I will not even pretend that I understand all that you say, however, I understand enough to know that you have figured out a way to fit the songs onto the CDs. Wonderful! I am probably not the best person to figure out which order is best, so maybe someone will come forward who has the expertise needed. I am not quite prepared to finalize the Love Songs CD, and as I have stated before, I'm waiting for at least one other song to be nominated which belongs on that disk.
As to the artwork for the album cover, yes I think we should keep working on it. This is SO MUCH FUN! Thanks everyone! This is going to be a wonderful Christmas present to ourselves! Happy Thanksgiving to all the my fellow Americans!! P.S. And yes, I envisioned Gord with braces on his teeth when I first read that...even though I have heard of the suspenders explanation before. I am however, very interested in seeing a picture of the "female clothing with pronounced erotic connotations" which is the English version of suspenders. Oh my goodness! That is bloody funny! |
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oh great, thanks John grrrrrrrr. Now I have this picture in my mind of Gord wearing both suspenders and braces!!
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found by image googling for "ladies suspender belt uk" could you provide the LINK to the google pic and delete it from your post?? thanks! Char |
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John, your post about how to choose tracks to fit nicely on a CD shows that you have done a lot of research on the subject. I think, though, there may be a simpler way.
If you take a look at the CD-Recordable FAQ on this page: http://www.cdrfaq.org/faq01.html#S1-5 you will see that a recordable CD will commonly hold either 74 or 80 minutes, translating to 650MB and 700MB respectively. (More specific information can be found at http://www.cdrfaq.org/faq07.html#S7-6 ) Knowing the amount of space required for 74 minutes (650MB), you can determine if your chosen tracks will fit by: 1. go to the file folder/directory in your file browser 2. highlight the tracks you want to record (hold down Ctrl key while selecting each track with the mouse or Ctrl-A for all of them) 3. right click on one of the highlighted items This will bring up a menu; choose "Properties". Look at the size of the selected files on the display that pops up. If the total will fit on your CD, you are all set! No need to install any programs or run a separate batch file. It seems you are using Nero Express' My Audio CD to display the selected tracks. In their wisdom to make things "foolproof", Roxio has chosen to display the audio tracks by time, rather than size (although changing this may be an option for the program.) In the end, the total size of the files is what matters. Time notwithstanding, they will still have to fit on the CD and those are written byte-by-byte until the disk is full. However, if "time" is important to you, then the programs you're using seem to fit your needs. (By the way, see http://www.cdrfaq.org/faq02.html#S2-29 for the background behind why the standard length of CDs is 74 minutes long!) Looking forward to the final list! Thanks Gitchigumee! |
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If it's not too late, I'll suggest Tim's second choice "Go My Way".
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For the artwork, I think our guy to ask would be, zoneranger... ?? [/quote] Now hang on a flippin' minute J-J. It was my idea to create artwork for GG's album and I have other pressing work for Z-R to accomplish!! OK Rick Many thanks for showing the two IYCRMM offerings. This is to say that although your efforts are very much appreciated now in my zoneranger folder I have 31 items http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/lightfo...eranger/31.jpg I think you will agree that such an impresive gallery display would look much better if it were able to be a symmetrical 6 by 6 so could I trouble you for another five please??!! Sorry to be a pain in the you know where John P.S I'll be tackling the requested "Love Songs" artwork as soon as this Thanksgiving weekend is over, as I have the basic design already done in my head, OK?? |
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Ok John, I should have said zoneranger or John Fowles. Whatever, go for it. :)
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In Tim's honor, Go My Way. Any song that is a favorite of Tim's deserves to be included.
And yes, that is the cover from the single of Anything For Love. I ought to know. I have it. I may have all the singles, but I am not certain. I spent a lot of time (and money) at Ebay back in the late 1990s and early 2000s! As a historical note, in one of his radio interviews (1968 or 1969), Skip Weshner christened three songs Gord recorded a "trilogy" of sorts, about the phases of love. The songs were: First Time, Softly and Last Time, in that order. I suggest that you place them on the CD in that order, rather than keeping the set list in the order the songs were nominated. Hey, be a producer and order all the songs after careful thought (and a few more listens). Of course, we can each do that, when we burn the CD ... Happy Thanksgiving everybody! |
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Thank's for clarifying this Valerie. It's funny but when the question came up, I thought of you for having the answer. I almost did ask; Val are you around? Guess I should have... lol Anyway thank's again. :)
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The Way I Feel...these are great songs.
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I'm sorry to say that I've been away for the long holiday weekend, and was unable to view John's photo of "suspenders" before it was taken off (I'll bet he picked a good one), but I did google the topic and now I get the general idea. Funny how something that was invented for a functional purpose can turn into something sexy and naughty.
Zoneranger, JohnFowles, and anyone else interested: Please submit as many album covers you would care to design and then I think we should take a vote. Of course, anyone is free to print anything they want to use as a cover, but maybe we could have one "official" cover. How would a deadline of 12/3 (one week from today) work for anyone interested? Val, Peter Bro 10 beat you to "Go My Way" so please feel free to choose another love song not yet nominated (I would personally be honored to have your choice included). I will definitely keep those 3 songs you suggested in the sequence you requested once we get around to rearranging things. Here's the updated list: 1. Softly (Gitchigumee) 2. Thank You For The Promises (Jesse Joe) 3. If I Could (RM) 4. If You Need Me (Claudia) 5. The Last Time I Saw Her Face (mnmouse) 6. Now and Then (GJA) 7. Inspiration Lady (brink-) 8. Fine as Fine Can Be (joveski) 9. I'm Not Supposed to Care (The Rez) 10. Your Love's Return (Rainbow Trout) 11. Beautiful (Kathy in Michigan) 12. My Love For You (Borderstone) 13. Shadows (Tim) 14. Song for a Winter's Night (Brannah) 15. The First Time Ever I Saw Her Face (johnfowles) 16. Go My Way (Peter Bro 10) 17. The Way I Feel (gwen snyder) Anyone care to help out with the dates (year) of the original recordings of these songs and the length of each? I know there must be a simple way...I just don't know what it is, other than picking up all my CD cases and taking a look. P.S. The forgotten song was mentioned in an earlier post, but has yet to be nominated. P.S.S. or is it P.P.S. YIKES! I just found John's links! The photo I found was pretty boring compared to his: http://www.corsetsandcrinolines.com/...p?index=190046 |
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hope this makes a good gift for you and loved ones, gitch:)
as an aside, any GL compilations I've done are based on recordings having a similar tempo (bpm) rather than common lyrical theme...I suppose the last GL comp I made (eons ago) was an exception to this when I ripped all the unreleased tracks off Songbook and put onto 1 disk am optimistic the zoner or our stonewaller can whip up a creative, appropriate cover...I would love to but only seem inspired when some sort of twisted wit is the theme...maybe when they do so, they could also make a subtle CD title change for this...the Love Songs title sounds like something the Carpenters or Bread would release, heh ...I think Your Love's Return works nicely as a title and has the key word in there too, great selection, RT well, you may need a full box set to get all my fave GL 'love' tunes compiled but to make it simple, I'll just go with the final track found on his final studio album: "Sometimes I Wish"....thx, jj ps) zoner, I think I dig your HOT album cover best...very KTel :) |
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Um, well, I notice that nobody has nominated If You Could Read My Mind! I presume it's because you consider it a "not love" song, but if you look at the list you will see several others that are about the end of a love affair. In fact, the theme of Last Time isn't that different.
So, if IYCRMM qualifies, obviously that would be my pick. Then there is Stone Cold Sober ... |
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YESSSSSS!!!!! VAL!!!!!!!!!!! FINALLY!!!!! If You Could Read My Mind is probably the best known and perhaps the best loved Gordon Lightfoot song of all time. And in my book, a love song doesn't have to be a song that professes undying love for someone, it only has to speak of love, in any of its forms, past, present or future.
I think if we get 1 more song nominated, then maybe we should close it out at an even 20. Here's the updated list: 1. Softly (Gitchigumee) 2. Thank You For The Promises (Jesse Joe) 3. If I Could (RM) 4. If You Need Me (Claudia) 5. The Last Time I Saw Her Face (mnmouse) 6. Now and Then (GJA) 7. Inspiration Lady (brink-) 8. Fine as Fine Can Be (joveski) 9. I'm Not Supposed to Care (The Rez) 10. Your Love's Return (Rainbow Trout) 11. Beautiful (Kathy in Michigan) 12. My Love For You (Borderstone) 13. Shadows (Tim) 14. Song for a Winter's Night (Brannah) 15. The First Time Ever I Saw Her Face (johnfowles) 16. Go My Way (Peter Bro 10) 17. The Way I Feel (gwen snyder) 18. Sometimes I Wish (jj) 19. If You Could Read My Mind (vlmagee) Congratulations JJ on your 1,000th post! And If You Change Your Mind (hey that'd be a good name for a song!) about designing a cover..... I would challenge you to come up with something as un-Carpenter-ish and un-Bread-ish as possible...please! All due respect. |
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Gitch - you're opening a can of worms with JJ..he's twisted..
lol ;) and I was just going to add IYCRMM but saw it just made the list! |
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ok, I kept it pretty tame, char (twisted sister)...and even went easy on the cheese
hey, and thanks for the milestone congrats, gitch....i must be closing in on ripken! well, goodluck with the CD comp...Gord should make for quite the stocking stuffer |
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well that woke me up!!!!!!
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2. Thank You For The Promises (Jesse Joe) 3. If I Could (RM) 4. If You Need Me (Claudia) 5. The Last Time I Saw Her Face (mnmouse) 6. Now and Then (GJA) 7. Inspiration Lady (brink-) 8. Fine as Fine Can Be (joveski) 9. I'm Not Supposed to Care (The Rez) 10. Your Love's Return (Rainbow Trout) 11. Beautiful (Kathy in Michigan) 12. My Love For You (Borderstone) 13. Shadows (Tim) 14. Song for a Winter's Night (Brannah) 15. The First Time Ever I Saw Her Face (johnfowles) 16. Go My Way (Peter Bro 10) 17. The Way I Feel (gwen snyder) 18. Sometimes I Wish (jj) 19. If You Could Read My Mind (vlmagee) 20. TBA (charlene) Char, I'm holding the last spot for you... |
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Very nice work on the cd artwork, jj. I like the choice of earth tones. Very handsome !
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JJ, nice job on the artwork....is that a picture of you with Gord superimposed??? You know it has been a year now since we last met, I am still waiting for those promised pictures of Harry.....tap, tap, tap. LOL
Hope all is well with you. Deb |
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thx brannah:)
deb, all fine thanks, hey, it was more like 30 months ago! a fresh pic of harrison attached rm, glad you like the tones, this do anything for you? ;) |
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In view of the controversial and irreverent way young Jimmy has approached this task in his second version I dare to suggest that "Approaching Lavender" should also be included on this compilation album!!
here is my first effort http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/lightfo...gs_Of_Love.jpg Don't worry I'll be back, not least because I have a load of comments to make regarding Cathy's response to my well thought out posting on running times etc. "Sir" John Fowles Bt |
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I like "Songs of Love" better than "Lovesongs."
I have ideas for a cover, but no idea how to use them. I think it would be cool to have a cover that includes Gord at different ages/stages in his career...and along with that, something along the lines of "love is timeless" (just like our man GL is timeless). I think this would be appropriate because the songs to be included on the CD are from many different decades, and I would love to see a clever depiction of Gord through the years. Also, I LOVE the idea of the Canadian maple leaf subtly used as a shadowy background or border. I am also envisioning nature...mountains, trees, a serene lake, etc... I think Gord would like that. Anyway, just some of my ideas... |
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I like the first Love Songs, he looks like he knows all about love....sorry John the Christmasy one looks like he is thinking about his first divorce and does he ever want to love again.
JJ - great picture, he knows all about Santa eh? Just because I want to be right, it was the last Massey event that you said you were sending piccies...that was November of '06. The ones from 30 months ago - did find their way to me - after a while. :) Hope Harry has a fabulous Christmas, I bet he just makes it a blast for you. |
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I envisage an illustrated guide showing where to get suitable free programs then covering picture cropping and resizing , plus detecting fonts and colors, then composing, including what the keener sighted of you might have spotted the simple and creative use of a little HTML to create a web page style "table" into which one can plonk your basic artwork with an effective bicolor shaded (to make a "3D" effect) border as used on these examples which can then be saved as a jpg file using the easy to use Gadwin Printscreen screenshot freeware program. Again I'll be back John |
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I love 'Romance' too - nice photo!
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Well I'll go back to one of my faves and one I spoke about with Mr. Lightfoot in our chat.... "I'll Tag Along" ..
He told me it's one of his faves as well..and he plays it on his own at home as a practice tune.. It speaks to my feelings about him and his music..I love it.. It's as simple as that.. I've been 'tagging along' for many years, to many places and if my wishes come true I'll continue to tag along on this marvelous journey he's taken me on..and all of you as well. As a "relationship" song it talks of commitment and trust, hope, belief and a history between people in a relationship even in the face of abandonment.. love creates those feelings.. "You've got time enough for two of us What is mine I will share" |
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OK can we therefore assume Bru that that is your nomination, and could some kind souls add the sublime and saddest GL Love song ever "That Same Old Obsession" and the very vocative"Spin spin" , plus the two premier "not love" songs (after IYCRMM that is) namely I'm Not Sayin'" and "For Lovin Me".
I have a good reason for including one or the other of those two, as before the rules were clarified I was already thinkng that I could make a convincing case for so doing as it seemed to methat a "not love" song could make a better "sandwich filler" than "Softly", on the basis that that would realisically portray the three phases of a failed romance, namely the initiation "The First Time" the failure or denial, followed by the denouement "The Last Time" as a fitting illustration of the previously mentioneecd Love story Triology, or as the late Canon Paul Goddard, one time vicar of Sherborne Dorset England and a former Spitfire pilot once told me "My business is "Hatch Match and Despatch" http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/sherbor...est_Window.jpgThe modern stained glass Sherborne Abbey West Window, inaugurated by HM the Queen in 1998 to celebrate the Abbey's 1000th birthday I found that those 4 and the previous 20 after conversion to mp3s proved to be just under the CD-R Limit of 80 minutes http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/lightfo..._24_Tracks.jpg OK now I'll have to substitute I'llTag Along for one of the others of approximately the same length I'll be back!!! John |
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Good choice, Char. Another of my faves too. btw did anyone suggest 'It's Worth Believin' ?
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FINALLY, THE TRACKS FOR THE CD:
1. Softly (Gitchigumee) 3:23 2. Thank You For The Promises (Jesse Joe) 2:53 3. If I Could (RM) 4:18 4. If You Need Me (Claudia) 2:50 5. The Last Time I Saw Her Face (mnmouse) 6. Now and Then (GJA) 3:09 7. Inspiration Lady (brink-) 3:10 8. Fine as Fine Can Be (joveski) 2:59 9. I'm Not Supposed to Care (The Rez) 3:31 10. Your Love's Return (Rainbow Trout) 3:57 11. Beautiful (Kathy in Michigan) 3:22 12. My Love For You (Borderstone) 3:37 13. Shadows (Tim) 2:59 14. Song for a Winter's Night (Brannah) 3:01 15. The First Time Ever I Saw Her Face (johnfowles) 3:10 16. Go My Way (Peter Bro 10) 2:16 17. The Way I Feel - Version 2 (gwen snyder) 3:02 18. Sometimes I Wish (jj) 3:37 19. If You Could Read My Mind (vlmagee) 3:40 20. I'll Tag Along (charlene) NOW, here's the problem, we have more songs coming in. I would suggest this: (A) Songs 1-20 are ON the CD subject to (B) below (B) That we have 'til Monday to decide if we want to replace OUR song with a different song (C) That we can make more suggestions for songs and if someone who has not made a nomination yet wants to, they can borrow our added suggestions as their own subject to (D)below (D) That the additional tracks nominated are only included IF there is room on the CD (based on the expertise of Sir John) Love...if you believe your nomination is about love, then that's good enough for me. After all, this is art, not science, and I really prefer not to get into a debate about what songs are worthy of being considered love songs and which ones are not. Here's the possible additions to the CD: 21. Romance (Silverheels) 3:32 22. It's Worth Believin' (2nd choice of Silverheels) 23. That Same Old Obsession (2nd choice of johnfowles) 3:44 24. Spin Spin (3rd choice of johnfowles) 2:29 25. I'm Not Sayin' (4th choice of johnfowles) 2:31 26. For Lovin' Me (5th choice of johnfowles) 2:27 We still have a few songs with no times listed. Also, anyone care to figure out the YEAR? |
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yeah, Sir, you put your finger on the Gord song type CD comps that I fancy: denouement (or as I call them, post mortums) ...Changes was perhaps the first recording that hooked me (if My Love For You can be considered a Gord tune then so can this I suppose)
I dug up an older comp that has my 2nd, 3rd, etc choices on it: Changes Talking In Your Sleep The Circle Is Small I'm Not Supposed To Care Looking At The Rain Miguel Never Too Close On The High Seas I'll Prove My Love Only Love Would Know It's Worth Believin' (ah, bru...everything a song should be :) ) not sure if this complicates things further, I'm still trying to make my way through the 1000 year abbey timeline ....hey, great pic and font on the first CD, JFo ....terrific Lavender line, certainly....yes, that sportcoat and scene does somehow look Christmassy...I'd like a coat like that...wow, it's almost December don we now our Gord apparel... jj (twisted, I suppose, rm...or just exposed to far too many cbc skits over past 40 odd yrs) |
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JJ - indeed, IWB - perfect. But prob. my No.1 is 'I'm Not s'posed to Care' ... whenever I hear it, I weep. P'haps because it reminds of my youthful stupidity ... *sigh* ... but it is so difficult to choose a No. 1.
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...new list coming up shortly with the changes/additions, whew! I'm beginning to understand why Gord doesn't want to go into the studio and produce a new CD...
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1. Softly (Gitchigumee) 3:23
2. Thank You For The Promises (Jesse Joe) 2:53 3. If I Could (RM) 4:18 4. If You Need Me (Claudia) 2:50 5. The Last Time I Saw Her Face (mnmouse) 6. Now and Then (GJA) 3:09 7. Inspiration Lady (brink-) 3:10 8. Fine as Fine Can Be (joveski) 2:59 9. I'm Not Supposed to Care (The Rez) 3:31 10. Your Love's Return (Rainbow Trout) 3:57 11. Beautiful (Kathy in Michigan) 3:22 12. My Love For You (Borderstone) 3:37 13. Shadows (Tim) 2:59 14. Song for a Winter's Night (Brannah) 3:01 15. The First Time Ever I Saw Her Face (johnfowles) 3:10 16. Go My Way (Peter Bro 10) 2:16 17. The Way I Feel - Version 2 (gwen snyder) 3:02 18. Sometimes I Wish (jj) 3:37 19. If You Could Read My Mind (vlmagee) 3:40 20. I'll Tag Along (charlene) Here's the possible additions to the CD: 21. Romance (Silverheels) 3:32 22. It's Worth Believin' (2nd choice of Silverheels) 23. That Same Old Obsession (2nd choice of johnfowles) 3:44 24. Spin Spin (3rd choice of johnfowles) 2:29 25. I'm Not Sayin' (4th choice of johnfowles) 2:31 26. For Lovin' Me (5th choice of johnfowles) 2:27 27. Changes (2nd choice of jj) 28. Talking in Your Sleep (3rd choice of jj) 29. The Circle is Small (4th choice of jj) 30. Looking at the Rain (5th choice of jj) 31. Miguel (6th choice of jj) 32. Never Too Close (7th choice of jj) 33. On the High Seas (8th choice of jj) 34. I'll Prove My Love (9th choice of jj) 35. Only Love Would Know (10th choice of jj) JJ, I left a couple off as they were already on the Top 20. Silverheels, I'm Not Supposed to care was already nominated by The Rez so I've left your #1 as Romance and your #2 as It's Worth Believin', so let me know if you want to rearrange those 2. |
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I would like to replace Inspiration Lady with The Circle is Small.
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