John,
Yet again thank you for your research and forbearance. The Wiki 'thing' says that Sally Cary was married to George William Fairfax. But, I feel certain she was married to Lord Thomas Fairfax. I'll check tomorrow with my local history buffs. I could be wrong...that has happened before! Back at you John. 'Lizbet |
Haven't read Corfid for a couple days and almost didn't read the continuation of this thread. Now that I did I figured I'd add my two cents! I was a 30-year resident of Fairfax County VA before moving to Winchester VA, the burial place (under(!) Christ Episcopal Church, Winchester) of the 6th Lord Fairfax (the bachelor one!). It was my understanding that Fairfax the 6th was the one for whom the county was named but...the Fairfax name was so prominent in the region that it was a 'given' that Fairfax should be its name. I, too, could be wrong as it is way too early in the AM for History 101!
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This is Possibly the funniest comedy skit by a non-Brit that I have ever heard. He deserves an honorary knighthood for this (It is almost as funny to read as to hear the original recording which I have on tape somewhere if anybody wants to hear it) INTRODUCING TOBACCO TO CIVILISATION by Bob Newhart Milestones are never really recognised right away... it takes fifty or sixty years before people realise what an achievement it is. Take for instance... tobacco, it was discovered by Sir Walter Raleigh... and he sent it over to England from the colonies. It seems to me, the uses of tobacco aren't obvious right off the bat... and I imagine a phone conversation between Sir Walter Raleigh and the head of the 'West Indies Company' in England, explaining about this shipment of tobacco... would go something like this... Telephone rings Yeh?... Who is it, Frank?... Sir Walter Raleigh?... Yeh?... Yeh, put him on, will you! Hey, Harry... you wanna pick up the extension?... Yeh! it's nutty Walter again! Hi, Walter baby, how are you, guy? How's everything going?... Oh, things are fine here, Walt!... Did we get the what?... Oh!, the boat load of turkeys, yeh! They arrived fine Walt, as a matter of fact they're still here, they're wonderin' all over London... Well, y'see, that's an American holiday, Walt!!!... What you got for us this time, Walt, you got another winner for us? Tob-acco... er, what's tob-acco, Walt?... It's a kind of leaf, huh?... And you bought eighty tonnes of it?!!... Let me get this straight, Walt, you've bought eighty tonnes of leaves? This may come as a kind of a surprise to you Walt but come fall in England, we're kinda upto our... It isn't that kind of leaf, huh?... Oh!, what kind is it then... some special kind of food?... Not exactly?... Oh, it has a lot of different uses, like, what are some of the uses, Walt?... Are you saying 'snuff', Walt?... What's snuff?... You take a pinch of tobacco, ha! ha! ha!... And you shove it up your nose. ha! ha! ha!... and it makes you sneeze? ha! ha! ha!... Yeh, I imagine it would, Walt! Hey, Goldenrod seems to do it pretty well over here! It has other uses though, huh?... You can chew it!... Or put it in a pipe!... Or you can shred it up... And put it in a piece of paper. ha! ha! ha!... And roll it up. ha ha ha... Don't tell me, Walt, don't tell me. ha! ha! ha! you stick it in your ear, right? ha! ha! ha!... Oh! between your lips!... Then what do you do, Walt? ha! ha! ha!... You set fire to it! ha! ha! ha!... Then what do you do, Walt?... Ha! ha! ha! You inhale the smoke, huh! ha! ha! ha!... You know, Walt... it seems you can stand in front of your own fireplace and have the same thing going for you! You see, Walt... we've been a little worried about you, y'know, ever since you put your cape down over that mud. Y'see, Walt... I think you're gonna have rather a tough time selling people on sticking burning leaves in their mouthes... It's going very big over there, is it?... What's the matter, Walt?... You spilt your what?... Your coff-ee?. What's coffee, Walt?... That's a drink you make out of beans, huh? ha! ha! ha!... That's going over very big there, too, is it?... A lot of people have a cup of coffee right after their first cigarette in the morning, huh?... Is that what you call the burning leaves, Walt?... cigarettes?... I tell you what, Walt!, why don't you send us a boatload of those beans, too! If you can talk people into putting those burning leaves in their mouthes... they've gotta go for those beans, Walt!... right? Listen, Walt... don't call us... we'll call you!... G'bye! |
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We have tickets for Town Hall and The Keswick so far. Bill :) |
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I googled on and found successivrely:- http://www.fxva.com/fxva/history.html "1649, King Charles II of England granted all of the land between the Rappahannock and Potomac rivers to a group of seven Englishmen. In 1719 this land came into the possession of Thomas, sixth Lord Fairfax, after whom Fairfax County was named. By 1732 there were attempts to form the land into a county, but it was not until 1741 that the Virginia Assembly, meeting in Williamsburg, created Fairfax County. The assembly action took effect the next year." And regarding where he was buried:- http://gen.culpepper.com/historical/nneck/5b-leeds.htm "The first resting place was the original parish church of Frederick, a large stone building erected at Fairfax's own cost in 1762. This building stood on the corner of Loudoun (Main) and Boscawen (Water) streets in the town of Winchester (Cartmel, Shenandoah Valley Pioneers, 1909, pp. 183, 138), where a stone today displays an inscription recording that 'Lord Fairfax was first buried on this spot, and afterwards removed and buried under Christ Church in this town" "In Memory of Thomas, Lord Fairfax, who died 1782, and whose ashes repose underneath this church, which he endowed. It will be noted that the date here cited, apparently following Burnaby, is erroneous. For this consideration, as well as others, a new bronze tablet was, in the autumn of 1925, set up in Christ Church on the occasion of the re-interment there of Lord Fairfax's dust; on which is an MI. as follows: [Arms, Fairfax of Cameron quartering Culpeper, with the motto, 'Fare Fac' being the achievement which Lord Fairfax himself preferred to use in relation to Virginia, as identifying the origin of his proprietary title; and which he had displayed, e.g., on the third (1745) state of John Warner's map of the Northern Neck.] Under this Spot repose the Remains of Thomas, sixth Lord Fairfax of Cameron, Son of Thomas, fifth Lord Fairfax, and Catherine Culpeper, his wife. Born at Leeds Castle, County Kent, England, October 22, 1693. Died at his proprietary of the Northern Neck in Virginia, December 9, 1781, in the eighty-ninth year of his age. He was buried in the original Frederick Parish Church at the comer of Loudoun (Main) and Boscawen (Water) Streets, whence his remains were removed to this church in 1828; where they were reinterred in 1925, when this tablet was erected by the Vestry of Christ Church." also worth looking at is http://gazette.gmu.edu/articles/index.php?id=6925 which starts off:- "It is said that Sally Cary, who became the wife of George William Fairfax of Belvoir, Va., was George Washington’s first love. She and her husband spent the Revolutionary War in England, but kept in touch with Gen. Washington. She died in Bath, England, in 1811, leaving a will. The original of Sally Fairfax’s will, an interesting piece of local history, is owned by Randolph Lytton. Lytton, a professor of history at George Mason whose specialty is Greek and Roman history, is also fascinated with the local history of Northern Virginia." Amen. |
OK my face is red. I guess I had it wrong. Still a very interersting thread. My homes sits two blocks frome the Fairfax County Courthouse and George Mason University. I actually live in an historic area of the county. No. VA. is a great place to live, especially the City of Fairfax.
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Quoting BILLW.... "Well Gitchigumee it just goes to show that the ONE thing we ALL have in common here is a love of all things LIGHTFOOT. Once we stray from that common ground our interests are quite varied and rarely overlap."
I beg to differ on the "interests ....rarely overlap", BILLW. For example there is a thread a mile long on aviation. then check the later portion of this tread! Who would have ever thought there would be such keen interest in the historical significance (sp) of Fairfax Co. VA etc, etc.... This is not even to mention that the average Corfidian possesses no ability to stay on topic!!! How on earth do you start with a discussion on the origins of the name "corfid" and end up in Fairfax Co VA??? with much more info about our first president, George Washington, that I didn't know before! Oh yeah, not to mention the bit of insight into the "Brit-Aussie dynamic". This thread went all over the place!!! In summary,We have enough in common to bind us, and enough diversity to keep it interesting!! So I'll keep coming back for more of the same... sounds familiar?? |
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I'll 'fess up:- http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/images/...esponsible.jpg But I swear I had no idea the course that this rambling discussion would take. Basically there are a many things I really enjoy doing on my computer and without trying to be pretentious I know I do several very well including:- displaying pictures here researching ideas that come into my head using google web and image search in particular describing and wherever possible illustrating the beauties of my home town/county and country. trying to think up things that I think might interest and/or amuse people here (especially when presented with a "blank palette" as it were in this small talk forum topic) I was as surprised as anybody when my casual reference to General Fairfax in connection with the history of my hometown sparked responses from ELizabeth and Sheila. And even more surprised to find George Washington being mentioned Just as I was surprised to be accused of being "harsh". I was not of course surprised when the Australian village idiot produced his customary stream of vitriol directed at me. http://www.dorkinglabs.com/fim/61.jpg I do however remain surprised that so far not one person has commented on Bob Newhart's oustandingly funny routine, possibly because too many here are guiltily puffing away at Rawleigh's "cancer sticks" http://www.dgreetings.com/newimages/...smoking03t.gif http://www.myspacecomedy.com/images/...er_install.gif a nasty habit that my 2000 stroke fortunately enabled me to give up. Yes it will be 7 years on the 19th of January (I went into hospital on January 19th 2000) since I last inhaled the deadly nicotine [ January 13, 2007, 17:26: Message edited by: johnfowles ] |
:D "How many forum members does it take to change a lightbulb?" ;)
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Pete I guess you're right , what was I thinking ? Actually I was probably thinking about some varied interests that we have that can't overlap. e.g. sport fishing and PETA supporting, just to take a stab... But I admit you're right - when I met a bunch of us up in Hamilton for the 'comeback' shows we never ran out of stuff to talk about. Even if it was sometimes just about our remarkable fashion sense and ability to 'tart up' out of a suitcase. Thanks for the reality check, Bill :) |
really Bill - I can't think of anything more important than tarting up with some good fashions....even if we are in Hamilton..
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