nicely said, JJ. Thanks. (Do you *really* have bats in the attic? Hope you get 'em cleaned out soon, 'cause the "guano" smell is gonna drive you out!! Oh, and when I was the Natural History Museum with my kids last year, they told us about bats: they only live where the air and water are clean, so, hey, you're lucky!... I think!)

quote:Originally posted by TheWatchman:
I'm going to see Everclear tonight in San Diego and I'm sure the volume will be just right. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif


Hey Watchman, Welcome to my neighborhood! Hope you're enjoying your stay http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif Unfortunately your visit is during an unusual cold spell. I actually had to unpack my New Hampshire winter clothes for the first time in over three years to find a sweater the other day. Like JJ, I'm not familiar with Everclear - What venue did they play?

As for the Timmy B issue, I agree with a lot of you to varying degrees on different points. First, I feel that it's very clear from his post to the other sites as well as his post here, that he IS a fan. He mentioned song titles that he liked including his favorite from Harmony, so obviously he's buying the CDs. If he wasn't a fan he'd be spending those bucks elsewhere.

As Watchman said, it would have been nice if Timmy had been a little more forthcoming with his thoughts in his post here, but I can also respect The Intended's theory as to why he didn't and to some degree I don't blame him. His post did not contradict his posts to the other sites, it just left some things out. As Watchman also said, this is a Lightfoot fan site and not a place to criticize. If that's so, than Timmy did the right thing not to do so in this forum. These other sites he posted to are not Lightfoot fan sites and therefore he felt more comfortable expressing his negative thoughts on Lightfoot concerts. He obviously chose to respect the fact that some folks here are protective.

He doesn't enjoy Lightfoot concerts, so what! - as long as he continues buying the CDs and respecting the talent and enjoying the music (and he was never once disrespectful of either of those things), what's the harm in that? It just means that there will be more tickets available to Lightfoot's sold out concerts for those with the different expectations that bjb mentions.

There are different levels of fandom and we really should make an attempt to respect them all - from the giddy first timer hearing these wonderful songs with a fresh ear, to the seasoned fan who knows all the song titles and lyrics and what albums they're on and every ounce of trivia available to be known, to the in between fan who may have several albums and enjoy them tremendously, but may not have the same desire as others to go see a concert or know all the details of his personal life. The most important thing is that we all benefit from and appreciate Lightfoot's music, even if the benefits are different for each of us, just as the songs can mean something different to each of us. All levels of fans should be welcomed here and embraced and nurtured.

Who knows what we could accomplish if we did this. When I first found this site, I was more of a casual fan - I knew the name, I had a few albums and I liked the songs I was familiar with. Over the years, my level of fandom has changed due to reading other's thoughts. I may still be closer to the bottom level than the top level, but I have more CDs, I'm familiar with more songs and have found new favorites that I never would have known about, plus I have a much greater understanding and appreciation of his talents and contributions. Who knows, if we as a group had been the least bit open to Timmy's thoughts on his concert experiences, over time we may have been able to turn him around and change his mind - instead he's been "banned from the club."

(edits were to correct credit to the poster of comments mentioned - both times, same poster. Hopefully I got it correct this time http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif)

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Hi Janice,

Everclear played at the 4th & B downtown. Everclear peaked from 1997-2000 with songs such as AM Radio, I Will Buy You A New Life, Father Of Mine, Wonderful etc...

It has been cold! It even rained today. I am now in LA and just relaxing from a very busy week. I know at least one night it got down below freezing.

San Diego is a great city and I can certainly see why people love it so much. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

quote:Originally posted by TheWatchman:
Hi Janice,

Everclear played at the 4th & B downtown. Everclear peaked from 1997-2000 with songs such as AM Radio, I Will Buy You A New Life, Father Of Mine, Wonderful etc...

It has been cold! It even rained today. I am now in LA and just relaxing from a very busy week. I know at least one night it got down below freezing.

San Diego is a great city and I can certainly see why people love it so much. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

I figured it had to be 4th & B or Dizzy's http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

Yeah I love San Diego. La Mesa is a suburb - as a matter of fact, my apartment is just two blocks from the city line - so I spend a lot of time downtown and in various other areas of town). One of the things that drew me to it was that San Diego is a huge city, yet still has that small town feel to it - If that makes any sense.

It's just too bad the weather couldn't have been it's usual for your visit - sunny, warm days; slightly cooler, but not cold nights and minimal to no rain. Then you really would have thought San Diego was great http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

Janice,

I've been to SD before but it's been a long time. Eventhough the weather was cooler than usual, it was still nothing short of beautiful. I especially like the Gaslamp Quarter. I also spent a couple nights at Bahia Resort on Mission Beach. Very nice as well!

Well, I'm in the outskirts of LA tonight and there is a distinct difference compared to SD. I'm here for work but I have to admit, it's been nothing short of an all expense paid vacation. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

The outskirts of L.A. tonight? Where are you Watchman?? I'm in the Valley! Could've had you over for coffee and GL!

Janice, I appreciate what you said. You made a lot of good points.
Oh, also, you said you live near the city line? So does a girlfriend of mine from jr. high! She lives literally on the street which is the dividing line betgween San Diego (proper) and La Mesa -- so, technically she's in La Mesa. Gosh, you two are probably neighbors!!

quote:Originally posted by Sheryl Klein:
The outskirts of L.A. tonight? Where are you Watchman?? I'm in the Valley! Could've had you over for coffee and GL!



Foothill Ranch which is by Irvine and Lake Forest. Man there's a lot of corfidians in Ca! I can certainly see the draw of living here. I could definitely handle living in southern California. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

quote:Originally posted by TheWatchman:
BillW has always worshipped Gord ever since I knew him. He tends to go a little overboard sometimes but that's okay. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

OK, OK I'm busted, sheesh!!!!!!

Bill http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

quote:Originally posted by TheWatchman:
BillW has always worshipped Gord ever since I knew him. He tends to go a little overboard sometimes but that's okay. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

Oh no, no, no! We are not 'intended' to worship him, remember? http://www.corfid.com/ubb/wink.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

quote:Originally posted by SilverHeels:
Oh no, no, no! We are not 'intended' to worship him, remember? http://www.corfid.com/ubb/wink.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Right, Bru. Come on. 'Fess up. We've attended the House Of Gord, and we did our share of worshipping. You aren't fooling anyone.

Cathy http://www.cathycowette.com

So, Watchman, Lake Forest? Hell and gone in regard to L.A.!! About 2 hours from me. Anyway, if you are going to be in L.A., please e-mail me. Love to have you over.

quote:Originally posted by Cathy:
Right, Bru. Come on. 'Fess up. We've attended the House Of Gord, and we did our share of worshipping. You aren't fooling anyone.

Cathy http://www.cathycowette.com



Yeh right! And I shall be there in May, worshipping all over again! (But dont let's tell the Corfid cops http://www.corfid.com/ubb/wink.gif

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