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Quote:

Originally posted by charlene:
John -
A determination/explanation on the subject of pictures posting was made so there's really no need for you to explain/apologize/justify any of your picture postings.
thanks,
Char
;)

OK OK Thank you Char I just thought that the point about thumbnails was very pertinent to the way I presented this piece.Especially when one picture I wanted to display was so large
Meanwhile I have just found the topic where we discussed the question of Rick and Terry being miked up: it was the other "Montreaux" topic at
http://www.corfid.com/ubb/ultimatebb...=003951#000006

Try flippin' the cover photo on yer CD's.
example: HARMONY, 'steada elder on the couch-- young string hands.
Gotta new favorite now?

I would like to thank the CTAFOBDAJFRPD it has been an hono(u)r.

[ July 18, 2006, 16:54: Message edited by: brink- ]

Try flippin' the cover photo on yer CD's.
example: HARMONY, 'steada elder on the couch-- young string hands.
Gotta new favourite now?

John,
Thanks for showing me this case, bizarre though it may be, of one CD cover art case without Gord's picture. Moreover, you were kind enough to find one I think you pictured as meeting my imaginary case ! (arthurian, castles,etc)

Holy cow gotta say the thumbnail I blew up and looked at (very nice facility that imageshack) is one of the strangest cases of nightmarish artwork Ive seen.... reminds me of Escher in a way, the female form ( I presume..) coming sideways out of image "up" is rather strange.... not exactly arthurian or Quixotic imagery with castles, fair maidens (with cone hats !) and a troubadour theme.

Tall order. But, only an idle imaginary shot at how a cover might look that carried some of my thoughts that particularly eminate from DQ the song. Knights errant, jousting at windmills, Cervates..

well anyway John thanks for going to the trouble of finding this odd (and shameful) unauthorized artwork you so correctly criticized. I agree, if I understand you correctly, this was NOT an authorized release, and man that picture of the lady inside a Rennaisance-era building lacking proper gravity is indeed strange.

Thanks for the work John, allways thorough and helpful -
Steve

[ July 18, 2006, 12:31: Message edited by: geodeticman ]

L'Anse - I agree - some of the "flipside" photo/artwork on Gord's CD's have several times in my mind exceeded the aesthetic quality of the cover itself, or in any event added greatly. Thanks for the reminder !
geo Steve

QUOTE]Originally posted by geodeticman:
John,
Thanks for showing me this case, bizarre though it may be, of one CD cover art case without Gord's picture. Moreover, you were kind enough to find one I think you pictured as meeting my imaginary case ! (arthurian, castles,etc
Steve [/QUOTE]
It was no real trouble Steve
I have a keen interest in all GL cover artwork
Yes well I had wanted to hunt down the artwork for a while as part of a project I am working on largely for my own interest
since only a similar small thumbnail is shown by Wayne Francis on his site (in his bootleg section) at:-
http://www.lightfoot.ca/bootlegs.htm
there he just says it is
"Trade Service Rare Recording
Collection (RRC 034)"
and
"Unauthorized live recording from Europe (CD only?). Year is incorrect.
Lightfoot actually played Montreux in 1976."
Gord's sound engineer on duty at that concert'
Richard Harison
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7...arrisonvb6.jpg
Richard's picture from the Gord's Gold gatefold
has said that he overmixed Terry & Rick's vocals and as I showed the set list was on the festival site for a while, I have often wondered just how unauthorised it was.
what was truly eerie Steve was that in your eloquent introduction you actually said
"What if a cover showed a Rennaissance-era theme; just an imaginary setting like you'd see at a festival ?
this to me indicated that you might be fully aware of this (Jazz) festival connection
I have just googled for "Trade Service Rare Recording Collection"
and lo and behold another canadian singer/songwriter got almost identical treatment
visit
http://www.leonardcohenlive.com/conc...1985-07-09.htm
where his 1985 Montreux concert has apparently been issued (as another):-
bootleg cd Heart Housed in Thorn-Bush (©1993 Trade Service, Rare Recording Collection, RRC 022
(strange that Leonard's later recording gets an earlier RRC number though!)
yet RRC 044
is per
http://www.aerosmithbootlegs.com/lis...?show=by_label
an aerosmith bootleg
"Get The Heavenly Lips Off ...
Trade Service Rare Recording Collection / RRC 044
Forest National Theatre - Brussels, Belgium, 10-31-93 Source: FM/TV Broadcast"
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/8...520b750at1.jpg
reduced from the far too large original i found at:-
http://www.aerosmithbootlegs.com/sca...lips%2520B.jpg
Note the same artist's work and layout to GL's Montreux back insert!!
I have also found the front of the Cohen issue but its no hat trick!!
http://www.leonardcohenfiles.com/bootbush.jpg
I suspect the connection was that all three were pressings of rare European concerts that were broadcast on FM radio
as was another GL concert from Frankfurt in October 28, 1975 (somewhere I have a note from corfid poster Suzi where she quoted the exact venue,Ok I found it it was the Jahrhunderthalle) I actually heard and recorded about 4 tracks from the Frankfurt show sometime possibly in 1981 just before Gord's last ever UK concert in May when the Beeb Beeb Ceeb very kindly broadcast them on their Radio 2 FM station
I was so excited I phoned the BBC in London but all they would tell me was something like "it was from a special album for rdio staions only and not available for retail sale". dammit!
Wayne at
http://www.lightfoot.ca/radioapp.htm
says that the Frankfurt recording was on "GERMAN RADIO - Oct. 29, 1975"
and on the same page states that the BBC broadcast was on "BBC RADIO - London, UK - May 17, 1981"
but I do not know where he got that date from as I failed to note the date of my recording dammit again!!
I wonder if the BBC still have it or if other copies exist? anybvbody got connections at Broadcasting House
Finaly Steve you presumed that the artwork features "the female form"
Funny I have for a long times assumed that the half naked figure was male!!
John
Phew researching and composing that was literalluy a sweat it is over 92 degrees F outside and nearly as hot inside , but our above ground AND heat blanket covered pool is now up to a record 87 so very soon I wil be taking a cooling dip.
I did not help in any way that I could not find an earlier scan jpg of Mr Harrison so I redid it by rescanning to my other desktop as this one does notnhave the scanning software on but then found that this computer's floppy drive is playing very silly buggers so had to resort to saving it on my external USB hard drive (more rushing uop and down the stairs between the two computers)
talk aboot sweat!!
Anyroads very sorry to all of you sweltering in Toronto,New York and Nova Scotia!! And I believe in usually frigid and wet England
Actually my curiosity in this matter was well rewarded (as RMD so perspicaciously commented yesterday in a PM my curiosity keeps me going)

[ August 01, 2006, 10:54: Message edited by: johnfowles ]

Mr. Fowles,

Your mention of Richard Harison prompts this question : I wonder why he doesn't post here, or am I missing something ? His "behind the scenes" contributions at alt.lightfoot are always interesting. Just wondering....

RMD

I don't post to often but read this site on a daily basis...anyhow, I too have always wondered what happened to Richard Harison?

I don't know if he was at Massey in May 2005 (probably) but I did see him backstage in Hamilton in Nov.2004.

Don't know much else than that..
anyone else?

It's been awhile, but he was still on alt.music.lightfoot the last time I checked in there.

Just an example of what we may be missing. This is Mr. Harison's response to my query about how the breakout success of "Sundown" affected him :

His response:

Sorry so long in responding...very thought provoking question! I guess when
one is in the middle of it all, one doesn't do a lot of reflecting about
"what was it like before this?" or "how has my life changed since?" As my
friend Roger, whom I have previously quoted in this thread, once said to me,
"Richard, it was a blur, wasn't it?"
The "drastic change in fortunes" went in many directions after IYCRMM and,
especially Sundown.:

1) Gord now had the means (and perhaps now the necessity) to expand the
band -- something he had wanted to do before.
2) Methods of transportation and sound requirements changed significantly
with the more to larger venues 2000 seaters to 16,000 seaters. When I was
first hired by Gord, the two of us used to meet at the office at 7 a.m. and
load his sound system into the back of his station wagon. Then off to the
airport to meet up with Red & Rick. But after Sundown, I had to contract
sound companies and oversee the more complex setups. (Ironically, lighting
requirements did not significantly upsize, except that the addition of Pee
Wee and Barry meant more instruments were needed, but the basic concept
remained the same: subtle and intimate (the way Gord & I liked it)
3) And, yeah, there was more money.
--
All the Best . . .
Richard Harison
"Ron" <measongs...@

John, et al:

Man-o-man what a purely imaginary cover artwork thought hath wrought ! Good stuff, serendipidous indeed John the "Festival" coincidence. It was in fact a coincidence ! I was picturing a Rennaisance festival such as I have gone to in Larkspur , Colorado.

As to female/male forms, ROFLMAO I thought I had this one down after 26 yeats of marriage, and a 24 yr old daughter, and, well, exposure in all appropriate settings to both sexes over the years!

You know John, I took another look at that bizarre picture with the naked backside sticking out sideways, and if one scrutinizes the whole person, for further reasons I shall not divulge in good taste, it definately appears female as I thought !

Only PG-13 further evidence being the long red hair, bit-o-curve to the hips, and the artwork "type" resembling a period in art I was shown in an art classs I did not want to attend in College, somewhere several hundred years ago the pervs drew all women this way.

Regarding any fore-knowledge of the Montreaux "Jazz" Festival and the artwork, I had no idea. Only your thorough research for this post my comrade, in truth, right, justice, and the American way !

Err.... I did not mean any harm, I just pictured a cool album with a castle, a Knight In armour on a trusty steed, a fair maiden in a cone-head hat to rescue, and something about "Troubadour" in my mind's eye !

Very interesting stuff you've turned over John by coincidence for this post. Thanks ! Sorry for all the sweat !

Here is the alternative: lately Mitchum clear gel has been saying inane things on its caps like the erudite "if you dropped this open container on the ground, and still used it, [you] are a Mitchum Man" - I sh** you not ! take care and nice cooling dip Sir John,

geo Steve

Quote:

Originally posted by johnfowles:
I think that COTS is also my number one
http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/7...gaphoto3lh.jpg
closely folowed by TWIF

John what's wrong with the picture TWIF, it looks like Gordon has got some sort of rash over his left eyebrow. Might be eczema LOL, probably something on the picture.

http://www.gordonlightfoot.com/TheWayIFeel-cover.gif
With Waiting For You probably at the bottom

Quote:

I'm kind of partial to this one... http://members.myepath.com/rskmjgrossman/ww3.jpg

That's got to be one of your best, Zoneranger. Really like it a lot.

Quote:

Originally posted by TC:
I don't post to often but read this site on a daily basis...anyhow, I too have always wondered what happened to Richard Harison?

I hope everybody enjoyed my efforts yesterday not just geo Steve (I certainly had a great time researching it is very satisfying to turn up unexpected items like that Leonard Cohen album),funnily enough after posting my second epistle my mind got to thinking about Richard,who I had the pleasure of chatting to very briefly backstage at Hamilton on the occasion of that tumultuous return to the stage by Gordon in November 2004,and I thought that since I had liberally quoted Richard's words here he should know aboot it so I will myself email him and try to entice him into posting something to either this topic or the one in which Booters "roberto" Dern reported on his purchase of the Montreux CD on Ebay
And we owe especial thanks to RMD for sharing that piece of history/trivia with us,I will tell Richard that his fame continues on corfid!!!
Meanwhile for another piece of Harrison contributed trivia I recommend looking at my Newsgroup posting to an old thread from 2002 at
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.m...0dd9f32?hl=en&
regarding the background chanting in "talking in your sleep", what did she say?
I gave three short links in my posting
those links were courtesy of
http://makeashorterlink.com
(that was before I discovered http://www.shorturl.com and http://www.notlong.com both of which allow you to
devise your own snappy link instead of an anonymous unmemorable link like the third one
I quoted:-
http://makeashorterlink.com/?O1CC62D91")
the first link was to a definitive answer by Richard
the third link is to a thread with the erroneous subject
"The Great Mystery Sound Debate from "Nous Vivons Ensemble"
started way back in 1997 by a misinformed and clearly embarrassed buffoon named "steven m dunbar"!!!
John

Quote:

Originally posted by TC:
I don't post to often but read this site on a daily basis...anyhow, I too have always wondered what happened to Richard Harison?

Mr. Fowles,

Those are great memories. I have another mission for you, if you choose to accept it. Who really released the first recording of "Me and Bobby Magee"? . I always heard it was Lightfoot, but other sources say it was Roger Miller. Any information you can extract would be appreciated.

RMD

Consider it done RMD
please go to:-
http://www.corfid.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ul...c;f=1;t=001791
where you wiil find conclusive proof that it was indeed Roger Miller, not Gord or even the late Janis Joplin
Incidentally the 1969 recording I mentioned in which Gord sang the song
"-hour broadcast of Gord's performance at that
summer's Charlottetown (PEI, Canada)"
has subsequently turned up on ebay uk as a pretty fair CD
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/8...own19696kx.jpg
John Fowles

Wow, that was quick.

Thank you very much.

I noticed in the thread that "Iron" remarked that he/she thought the Lightfoot version was the best.
I agree as far as the "sound" of the recording, but every time I hear him pronounce Salinas as "Sa-lie-nas" instead of "Sa-lee-nas", I sort of grimace.

Thanks again,

RMD

Mr. Fowles,

uhm... John... I dare ask you are trying to either

A. Discredit my old alt.music.lightfoot posts as you are jealous of the enjoyment expressed by many at the time of them, without explaining I did not "start" the great "sound" thread, in fact it was another famous GL afficianado. I simply posted another thread as an initial tack for fun.....you pooper
or:
B Once again make me look bad, alternating between complimentary posts of me, especially in alt.music, then poking fun at some awfully weird times for me i do notemember well from the head injury. Problem for you is in either case:

I am tough enough. and second - our forum comrades are wiser than that when you bask/praise/bash/praise. You are caught, ID'd, thumprinted, in the hoosegow, and awaiting bail ! So the name is wrong ! don't confuse with facts !......

very funny John, I must warn you though you take a little too much wicked glee in pointing out the slightest errors in those YOU FEEL THREATENED BY, unt how long have you been aben zees feelinks ? for those who do not back up to the start of MY post ( cetainly not the famous GL expert Der...K... (I can't do it, no...) post that started it all as my damaged memory recalls.

The hyperlink only goes to "REPLY" to my thread. depite the mention of it and the name calling of me "buffoon" ? is only unbecoming of you as a gentleman and a scholar being out of context in "cover art",

I shall make matters worse by perpetuating it and posting what the hyperlink does not show. Maybe SOMEBODY will see some humour in it that is not based on belittling one's earnest fellow man: to wit: :)

note: edited for spacing and "little paragraphs"
......hehe j/k :)

my old alt.music.lightfoot post, certainly not the first on "the sound" . hmmph LOL

From: steven m dunbar - view profile
Date: Thurs, Jul 31 1997 12:00 am
Email: gis...@ix.netcom.com(steven m dunbar)
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To all those whose quest is to discern the sound in "Nous Vivons
Ensemble":
Most common theories are:
A. Beer Can opening
B. Match lighting
I offer the following for your amusement only :)

Well.... I think it is a beverage can having the pull-tab torn off, followed by a quescient quaffing down of the drink with a *gulp* and a
"uenh" sound by Gord coming up for air after the long draw on the beverage.

The question is: what is the beverage ? We should not assume it is a beer. It could be diet pepsi, my favorite. Or, maybe a high-end
soda pop of the day such as Green River lime soda (which has a little bit of "Lightfoot" sound to it, er.. maybe that is Creedence Clearwater revival...).

After all, Gord was makin the big bucks by this point, what with IYCRMM's success and all. The can sounds like older metal pop-cans, with the magnesium alloy in the top for greater rigidity
than the can body ( Roger, are you taking note of the metal strength thing here, I threw it in for your enjoyment..hehe.. ).

It could be a higher-end spirit than beer, too. It could be one of those fancy cocktails-in-a-can, the Club (TM) brand or something. Actually, given the tonal character, resonance, timbre, and pitch, I am led to believe it is:

A sparkling champagne-in-a-can, perhaps an Austi-Spumante (TM,sp?), with the giggling sparkle of Swiss Maidens, blushed yet
pleased by the attention of the rural swains. (Credit to author "Trevanian", of the Eiger Sanction, and his erudite and intrepid agent,
Jonathan Hemlock, whom I believe spoke the above ort in reference to a wine of fine character).

Other noteworth celebrity theories:

1. Sean Connery, in James Bond character: "I think it is an extra-dry vodka martini, shaken, not shhtirred..."

2. Ernest Hemingway: "For Christ's sake, it's a match, burning his finger, while he shivers, cold, in the rain"

3. Carlos Castenada "It is his existential self, actualized from a former life"

4. Sigmund Freud "unt it iz hiz inner-child , seeking hiz mother, in a futile attempt to overcome faulty toilet-training, undt vee see zat he iz makink noises in hopes of gathering attention"

5. Spock: "Captain, sensor scans indicate it is a previously unknown form of energy in this sector of the galaxy. However, without further
empirical data, it would be highly illogical to postulate the origin of the -pfftt- noise. The noise in fact lasts for 0.094567 terran
arc-seconds"

6. John Wayne "Well Pilgrim, I listened, and I listened REAL good, and its one of those damn sasparillas from one of them new-fangled glass
bottles like those dandies have back east..."

7. Dan Quayle "It's potaytoh soda"

8. Rush Limbaugh "the real question here, folks, is not WHAT the noise is, but why the liberals want to spend money once again in a
tax-and-spend frenzy to find out, and then compensate the lazy money-sucking -leaches who claimed disability because they could not
figure it out...."

9. Carl Sagan "It's billions and billions of tiny encapsulated carbon-dioxide bubbles escaping in nature's grand attempt at seeking
the equilibrium that Boyle's Law demands.... nature abhors a vacuum, or in this case a relative vacuum by virtue of pressure
differential....it compels us to ponder the mystery of the universe. Perhaps each bubble is in and of itself a miniature cosmos, with entire
worlds within..."

10. Captain James T. Kirk, of the U.S.S. Enterprise "Bones...what..IS.... this.... sound. We NEED... to KNOW...... the source of the sound. I want ANSWERS, and.. I NEED... them NOW, Mr. "

11. Dr. McCoy: "Damnit Jim , I'm a DOCTOR, not a hospitality and beverage service expert, and I did NOT sign on board this vessel to diagnose what some damn sounds are while my atoms are being scattered around the universe..."

11. President Bill Clinton: "Well I can say this...... I have opened a can similar to this was I was a young college student, in pursuit of
post-graduate fellowship work as a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford, but I can assure you, I DID NOT DRINK from it."

12. NASA's Mars Pathfinder mission team specialists, in press conference "Well, the reports in the media that make it sound like the
pull-tab failed are not at all true;

in fact, we considered it a great success given that there was almost a 5-second lag between the time we instructed Mr. Lightfoot how to most effectively re-orient, or do a vernier adjustment if you will of his hands, to most efficiently open the can without spilling or purging the can's contents into a -100
degreee Kelvin Martian atmosphere, only to have it sublimate subsequent to instantaneous freezing of the rapid depressurization of
the containment cylinder's and consequential hull integrity breach..

... and the boys at JPL that actually BUILT this defective, or we like to think "successful failure" container, can agree that all things considered, the breach and ensuing reorientation to the rock mode was ultimately a success"

Thought you guys might get a little laugh out of this.. Purely in fun, and all made up of course. Any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely unintentional blah blah..... :)

- Steve Dunbar

(all 1997 foolishness of mine) - geo Steve

p.s. thanks John gotta admit I even laughed at my John Waybe, NASA, and Carlo Castenada versions. Course I am biased. Your just jealous and pounced cause you found ONE mistake. All in good fun John... thanks for bringing back this foolishness of mine today. its been a bad day. a birthday gone bad. medical reasons. i was really down til i read your response. thanks

i am beyond confused but have been highly entertained...i think...
;)
char

Note to any readers who were confused by my non-cover art reply on pg 2 to John's non-cover art rcomment about me on pg. 1 of cover art.

It all started at the end of his other wise very interesting and informative post on page 1,where he ends in a reference without bearing to cover art, but another bit of flotsam in his quest to embarrass me from my attempts at humour in 1997 alt,music,lightfoot. he incorrectly thinks i started the great "sound" debate.... to wit: ;)

Per John: pg 1
==================================================
"The Great Mystery Sound Debate from "Nous Vivons Ensemble"
started way back in 1997 by a misinformed and clearly embarrassed buffoon named "steven m dunbar"!!!
-----------------------------------------------------

Clearly my good friend John is scraping the barrel to once again test my humour to see if it will still embarass me nye on 10 years later, from a time I can barely remember!

John this reflects poorly on you!, but I should actually thank you if confused readers actually ,knowing the context albeit incorrect, get a chance to read the pg 2 reply of mine to your pg 1 exhortation quoted above, where I splice in my 1997 post that has I hope some fun to read versions of the great mystery sound debates of mine, as the hyperlink goes to reply's only.

John no worries I am not offended its all in good fun - you rafscallion :) geo steve

[ July 19, 2006, 18:46: Message edited by: geodeticman ]

Ditto for me, Char...

Char and DJB - Does this explanation above make sense of it ? John in fun burned me at end pg 1 and my reply had to be here on pg 2, thereby loosing continuity. Hope that helps. B-day going downhill again. LOL Steve

PS - clearly my goofball error if you read the alt.music.lightfoot string in the thread, from old missed contributors in many cases - I meant to say of course CABARET - NOT NOUS VIVONS ENSEMBLE. but further reading will reveal over in alt.music.lightfoot that even the real originator of the "sound" thread thought it was funny... hope it still stands.... thats my best shot at clearing up what got split into 2 pages PLUS the linkto alt.music. phew... Steve

Sorry your birthday wasn't a good one Steve, hope it turns out a bit better this evening.

Even though I am not a member of the newgroup, I remember that conversation on the newgroup. It was too funny. Isn't that where Derek got his nickname?

Happy Birthday anyway Steve.

LOL Steve! tomorrow is another day - celebrate your birthday tomorrow!
Hope you're feeling better.

I've re-read and been just as entertained this time as the first!
lol