would still find that useful thanks, lsh
john plans to add graphics to his Pics For Dummies publication which should help too http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

don't go too hard at it, or work...

http://www.smilieland.com/graphics2/office7.gif

ps) my Burchill thread pic was kinda semi-succesful (w/no cheating) there's hope!

Good work jj! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif You're light years ahead of me! Excellent clip-out. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/wink.gif

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