Cussing in GL songs

[steve gittins]

I was listening to Sundown the other day, and noticed how Gord uses the S word twice in the Sundown CD. ( Watchman's Gone & Seven Island Suite)This seems to be the only CD where he cusses. Anyone find any others? Not a big deal..I'm no prude..just a discussion topic.

[BendRick]

I was listening to Sundown the other day, and noticed how Gord uses the S word twice in the Sundown CD. ( Watchman's Gone & Seven Island Suite)This seems to be the only CD where he cusses. Anyone find any others? Not a big deal..I'm no prude..just a discussion topic.

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by RenoRick:
just a discussion topic. Yes Well All ruddy Right Rick this was quite recently covered at:-
http://www.corfid.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=003265#000001
in a topic worth rereading that is almost coincidentally entitled:-
"Cussing in songs"
John Fowles
from corfid poster and Arizonian waltsongs at:-
http://www.musesmuse.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=20336
"I agree that in most cases profanity detracts from a lyric. I have heard a few lines that I thought were okay with it though. This line from Gordon Lightfoot's Seven Island Suite always strikes a chord with me."

"Fortune will not find you in your mansion or your truck"
Brothers will desert you when your're down and sh*t-out-a-luck"

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by RenoRick:
just a discussion topic. Yes Well All ruddy Right Rick this was quite recently covered at:-
http://www.corfid.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=003265#000001
in a topic worth rereading that is almost coincidentally entitled:-
"Cussing in songs"
John Fowles
from corfid poster and Arizonian waltsongs at:-
http://www.musesmuse.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=20336
"I agree that in most cases profanity detracts from a lyric. I have heard a few lines that I thought were okay with it though. This line from Gordon Lightfoot's Seven Island Suite always strikes a chord with me."

"Fortune will not find you in your mansion or your truck"
Brothers will desert you when your're down and sh*t-out-a-luck"

[Glenmark]

Not cussing exactly, but I always thought the line about "the crew threw his balls to the sharks" in "Too Many Clues in This Room" was pretty startling.

[Iron]

Startling indeed there Glenmark!!I think it may have been his "Bones" they tossed over..
Not that it might make much difference to the curseaphobics.I'm sure there might be some way to interperate bone as an offensive bad word.

[Cathy]

Here's the verse Glenmark is talking about:

At best it is said we've been locked deep inside
Of an old sea man's chest full of charts
Where maps are contained and what's left of his brains
When his crew threw his balls to the sharks

It definitely was a bit more than his bones that got tossed overboard.

[MistyMoppens]

Originally posted by Glenmark:
Not cussing exactly, but I always thought the line about "the crew threw his balls to the sharks" in "Too Many Clues in This Room" was pretty startling. We've always loved that line... lol...

[Iron]

I stand corrected,and Humbly so.Missheard lyrycs indeed..I've never worked on this one ,been hearing and singing bones all this time.Now I'm gonna have to go check out Cherokee Bend.Was the "kid a pig" or was he not big???

Sorry Glenmark

[Lindab]

"dirty little Kid by his side.
Daddy didn't like what the white man did nor the
deal or the way that he lied.."
I believe that's the lyric.Honestly,I haven't heard it in years.

[Robby Lake]

"dirty little Kid by his side.
Daddy didn't like what the white man did nor the
deal or the way that he lied.."
I believe that's the lyric.Honestly,I haven't heard it in years.

[Borderstone]

"Daddy didn't like what the white man said 'bout the dirty little kid at his side."

(&)"Daddy didn't like what the white man did nor the deal or the way that he lied."

(Got it from the lyrics on the site.) ;)

[Iron]

Nahh,not that one,it's the line that goes "Now the boy was a pig but he hunted when he could". I figured that is why the food ran low.
I know the boy "was'nt big",but he could have been a pig,well it works either way,I'd say.
As for the balls,I'm gonna stick with my bones version.Gordon changes things around a bit once in a while,I don't think He would mind if prefer to stick to the bones...

[Lindab]

"Now the boy wasn't BIG but he hunted pretty good so they lived for a time that way..."
I think that's it-it makes sense.
It's like a Gordon Lightfoot Rap song.
The lyrics are so quick.Awesome story telling.
And that's how it happend in those days.
White man pee on indian.
Capo:2nd fret(F#m)in Em.
That's Red Shea on electric lead and Terry Clements on Acoustic lead.Gord plays the Em,but in the beginning and before every verse he plays the E5(no 3rd)chord.That's his signature chord!(sundown,waiting for you,cold on the sholder,whisper my name,sea of tranquility,and probably 20 or 30 more)
I play music out for a living and I could never get Cheeroke Bend right when it comes to delivering the lyrics.Not even close.

[Robby Lake]

"Now the boy wasn't BIG but he hunted pretty good so they lived for a time that way..."
I think that's it-it makes sense.
It's like a Gordon Lightfoot Rap song.
The lyrics are so quick.Awesome story telling.
And that's how it happend in those days.
White man pee on indian.
Capo:2nd fret(F#m)in Em.
That's Red Shea on electric lead and Terry Clements on Acoustic lead.Gord plays the Em,but in the beginning and before every verse he plays the E5(no 3rd)chord.That's his signature chord!(sundown,waiting for you,cold on the sholder,whisper my name,sea of tranquility,and probably 20 or 30 more)
I play music out for a living and I could never get Cheeroke Bend right when it comes to delivering the lyrics.Not even close.

[Iron]

Robby,
He hunted when he could..I'm familiar with the song,I was just jokin a bit there,as usual.
I'm,fairly certain,about the lyrycs on this one,as this has been one that I've been working on,off and on,for a while.Started off with the 12,but somehow I started a T-picken version on the 6.Still workin on it and will be for a while,but it's coming along.I am also familiar with the chord's you mentioned and you also hit on several of my favorites, but I sure did'nt know about the E-5 part you mentioned in C.B.
My books just show the Em,but I'll sure have to give it a try.This is one I've never saw Gord do in concert,and I imagine He just figures it's not worth the Hassle(ing),but it has been on my favorites list for a long time.Talk about painting a picture,this one leaves an entire movie floating through my mind.

[Wesley]

Originally posted by Glenmark:
Not cussing exactly, but I always thought the line about "the crew threw his balls to the sharks" in "Too Many Clues in This Room" was pretty startling. huuum. haven't heard the song since I was smal and my turn table is defunct. I assume none of these songs were released as singles. And even if they were they might be a Greenback Dollar case. you know that song by The Kingston Trio. altough a few of my internet stations plays the song as it was 1 version I've heard just has a guitar strum in place of the D word.

[Affair on Touhy Ave.]

Originally posted by Glenmark:
Not cussing exactly, but I always thought the line about "the crew threw his balls to the sharks" in "Too Many Clues in This Room" was pretty startling. huuum. haven't heard the song since I was smal and my turn table is defunct. I assume none of these songs were released as singles. And even if they were they might be a Greenback Dollar case. you know that song by The Kingston Trio. altough a few of my internet stations plays the song as it was 1 version I've heard just has a guitar strum in place of the D word.

[Lindab]

Sorry folks,must confess.The last time I played
"Greenbair Dollar" I cursed in the chorus.\
I'll have to admit,I've got a bit of Socialism
blood in me!My real last name is "Aptheker" and my great-uncle was Herbert Aptheker,a pioneer free-thinker in this country.For more info.,type his name up and you'll find some juice!He's written plenty of books.
I myself am just a folk singer with a G.E.D.!See you all later...

[Robby Lake]

Sorry folks,must confess.The last time I played
"Greenbair Dollar" I cursed in the chorus.\
I'll have to admit,I've got a bit of Socialism
blood in me!My real last name is "Aptheker" and my great-uncle was Herbert Aptheker,a pioneer free-thinker in this country.For more info.,type his name up and you'll find some juice!He's written plenty of books.
I myself am just a folk singer with a G.E.D.!See you all later...

[Lindab]

Brian,
The books are never totally correct unless it's Tab.
Yeh,the E5no3rd,a big chord for Gord.That's how he gets that fat sound on both the 6 and 12 string.

[Robby Lake]

Brian,
The books are never totally correct unless it's Tab.
Yeh,the E5no3rd,a big chord for Gord.That's how he gets that fat sound on both the 6 and 12 string.

[Iron]

Robby,
I know what you mean about the "books".I don't know why they did'nt do them all the way Gordon does them!Sometimes you find them in a different key,relative to the capo.I've even found some that do not use the capo.I found some of these variations to be quite confusing in the early learning days.I do not "read" music,don't have a clue in that realm,just learn from the chord and tab books and from the ear.
The obese E.The chord of many faces.E5no3rd,E,E5,Eno3rd,E drone.Just depends on what book and what song yer lookin at,but it's pretty much the same chord.I think it should just be named "L#t"
I think I have most of the Gordon music books,but one of my favorites is the Old Dan's,original lead & notes.The one in His own handwriting.Wish they were all like that!!

[Lindab]

Brian,you've got to share a little!How's bout sharing one or two songs from the book you speak of?In his own hand writting,you don't say!
Old Dan's Records-the song-prime example of working around the E5no3rd chord(capo:2ndfret)
Dave Matthews does something like that on "Crash".
How about "Farewell To Anabell"?
One of my Favs:"Another Lazy Mornin'"
Capo:2nd fret,D,D6,D7----G,Gm--D,E(D 4thfret)
And that part ..I know it but not sure of the chord names:
A Bb+7? D+7? A7
Coffee In the kitchen woman on the run


Just some inversions of the A chord,I presume.
What ever it is,he uses almost the exact same
progression for the song "Ghosts Of Cape Horn"

See them all in sad repair,Demons dance everywhere....

[Robby Lake]

Brian,you've got to share a little!How's bout sharing one or two songs from the book you speak of?In his own hand writting,you don't say!
Old Dan's Records-the song-prime example of working around the E5no3rd chord(capo:2ndfret)
Dave Matthews does something like that on "Crash".
How about "Farewell To Anabell"?
One of my Favs:"Another Lazy Mornin'"
Capo:2nd fret,D,D6,D7----G,Gm--D,E(D 4thfret)
And that part ..I know it but not sure of the chord names:
A Bb+7? D+7? A7
Coffee In the kitchen woman on the run


Just some inversions of the A chord,I presume.
What ever it is,he uses almost the exact same
progression for the song "Ghosts Of Cape Horn"

See them all in sad repair,Demons dance everywhere....

[Lindab]

Just finished learning"Forgive Me Lord"
just in time for Jesus' Birthday!

[Robby Lake]

Just finished learning"Forgive Me Lord"
just in time for Jesus' Birthday!

[joveski]

speaking of Forgive me lord, when he played it live in the 80s, he'd changed the lyric "i've even been stoned"... instead of chased..

[Iron]

Robby,
I'd be more than happy to share anything I have in the Gord music realm.
Except for "Ghosts",the other songs you mentioned are all in the GOOD version of ODR.Send me your address{on the personnel message system,if you prefer},and I will make You a copy of the book and send it to you.I'm sure there is some way to do it on the computer,but I'm about as adept on a computer as I am at reading sheet music.
You mentioned a couple more of my favorites.
Dave M. ,I really like his solo work,don't care much for the whole band scene though.
And "Ghosts",that is most often the one I warm up my fingers with when I first pick up the 6-string.I love the progression too,but I'm not familiar with the version You mentioned.I do Dm,C,F,G,Dm,C,Dm.
FtA and ODR are actually very similar.I could give you the chord names that are in the book,but I don't know how to show the chord diagrams in a simple way.
Another one of my favs. in this book is "My Pony Won't Go".Drives my wife nuts.{not one of her favs.}I don't know why,and I seldom ever hear others mention this song,but from the first time I ever heard it,I was hooked.To each His or Her own,I reckon..

[Lindab]

Last night at my Fri. nite gig,I tried "Forgive Me Lord" and felt a shiver go down my neck.
just another tremendous Lightfoot song that didn't make it on an album.The verse chords on "Ghosts" are simple but fast in progression.
I was talkin bout the Bridge.
I love Dream Street Rose.It may be the best album ever,the last full album with petal steel guitar.
Honestly,I know I'm gonna get yelled at,but I wish that I had been old enough to see the
Lightfoot Three:Gord,Red Shea&John Stockfish
in concert in,say,1968.He was strong and vibrant back then.When I saw him in 2001 and 2002 in Clearwater,Fla. it was very 1 dimentional.
With all due respect,I'm as Big a fan as anyone on the planet but long gone are the days of"Oh,Linda".

[Robby Lake]

Last night at my Fri. nite gig,I tried "Forgive Me Lord" and felt a shiver go down my neck.
just another tremendous Lightfoot song that didn't make it on an album.The verse chords on "Ghosts" are simple but fast in progression.
I was talkin bout the Bridge.
I love Dream Street Rose.It may be the best album ever,the last full album with petal steel guitar.
Honestly,I know I'm gonna get yelled at,but I wish that I had been old enough to see the
Lightfoot Three:Gord,Red Shea&John Stockfish
in concert in,say,1968.He was strong and vibrant back then.When I saw him in 2001 and 2002 in Clearwater,Fla. it was very 1 dimentional.
With all due respect,I'm as Big a fan as anyone on the planet but long gone are the days of"Oh,Linda".

[Lindab]

Brian,
Almost forgot--here's my address.
I've got Gord's Anthology Book so maybe I can help you out too.
Again,thanx.
matinee91@yahoo.com

[Robby Lake]

Brian,
Almost forgot--here's my address.
I've got Gord's Anthology Book so maybe I can help you out too.
Again,thanx.
matinee91@yahoo.com