Massey Hall-May 2008-Set Lists

[seafarer62]

Did someone grab the set lists from the Massey run?

Anything unexpected played??

[charlene]

I have all 4 nights...
Wednesday May 7,2008
1. Cotton Jenney
2. Sea of Tranquility
3. 14K Gold
4. Never Too Close
5. A Painter Passing Through
6. In My Fashion
7. Rainy Day People
8. Shadows
9. Beautiful
10. Watchman's Gone
11. Ribbon Of Darkness
12. Sundown
13. The Wreck of The Edmund Fitzgerald
BREAK
14. Triangle
15. Hangdog Hotel Room
16. Restless
17. Clouds of Loneliness
18. Waiting For You
19. If Children Had Wings
20. If You Could Read My Mind
21. Don Quixote
22. Baby Step Back
23. Early Morning Rain
ENCORE
24. Blackberry Wine
25. Old Dan's Records

Thursday May 8, 2008
1. Triangle
2. Cotton Jenney
3. 14K Gold
4. Never Too Close
5. In My Fashion
6. A Painter Passing Through
7. Rainy Day People
8. Shadows
9. Beautiful
10. Carefree Highway
11. Hangdog Hotel Room
12. Ribbon of Darkness
13. Sundown
14. Watchman's Gone
BREAK
15. The Wreck of The Edmund Fitzgerald
16. Alberta Bound
17. Don Quixote
18. Clouds of Loneliness
19. Waiting For You
20. If Children Had Wings
21. If You Could Ready My Mind
22. Baby Step Back
23. Restless
24. Baby Step Back
ENCORE
25. Early Morning Rain
26. Old Dan's Records


Friday May 9, 2008
1. Cotton Jenney
2. Carefree Highway
3. Sea of Tranquility
4. 14K Gold
5. Never Too Close
6. A Painter Passing Through
7. In My Fashion
8. Rainy Day People
9. Shadows
10. Beautiful
11. Carefree Highway
12. Hangdog Hotel Room
13. Ribbon of Darkness
14. Sundown
15. Watchman's Gone
BREAK
16. The Wreck of The Edmund Fitzgerald
17. Alberta Bound
18. Don Quixote
19. Clouds of Loneliness
20. Waiting For You
21. If Children Had Wings
22. If You Could Read My Mind
23. Baby Step Back
24. Restless
25. Blackberry Wine
26. Early Morning Rain
ENCORE
27. Old Dan's Records
(Carefree Highway performed twice for recording purposes.. That's his story and he's sticking to it.)

Saturday May 10, 2008
1. Triangle
2. Cotton Jenney
3. 14K Gold
4. Never Too Close
5. In My Fashion
6. A Painter Passing Through
7. Rainy Day People
8. Shadows
9. Beautiful
10. Carefree Highway
11. Hangdog Hotel Room
12. Ribbon of Darkness
13. Sundown
14. Watchman's Gone
BREAK
15. The Wreck of The Edmund Fitzgerald
(In my head I heard I'll Tag Along..;) )
16. Alberta Bound
17. Don Quixote
18. If Children Had Wings
19. Waiting For You
20. Restless
21. If You Could Read My Mind
22. Baby Step Back
23. Early Morning Rain
24. Song For A Winters Night
25. Baby Step Back
ENCORE
26. Canadian Railroad Trilogy

[Jesse Joe]

(In my head I heard I'll Tag Along..;) ) lol You gotta love it. :biggrin:

[RM]

(Carefree Highway performed twice for recording purposes.. That's his story and he's sticking to it.)


That's a couple of times a "recording" has been mentioned. Is this common practice, or might we possibly expect a new product in the future ?

[BILLW]

This was a joke Ron - he was having a senior moment, LOL. When he was back for the second set he used that story as a 'cover'.

On Saturday after he did Carefree Highway I tried to holler "one more time Gord" but in my weakened state only the few souls near me caught it - but I enjoyed it nonetheless.

Bill :)

[charlene]

None of the boys in the band wished to be unemployed come the next morning so they just kept on playing what the boss wanted..
lol
I heard ya Bill..;)
lol

[RM]

This was a joke Ron - he was having a senior moment, LOL.

Oh...darn. Thanks for the info.

I wish you well in your recovery. I remember my Mother telling me that "if you don't wear pink, you won't get sick ". I don't know if she was just messing with me or not, but I've never worn pink since. Happy Mother's Day to all.

[vlmagee]

The concerts were being recorded. When and whether we might see a CD of Massey recordings remains a question, but it would be nice wouldn't it? Bob Doidge has been recording the Massey concerts for Gord for many years now.

Saying that the repeat of Carefree Highway was for recording purposes was a joke. But, since the concerts were being recorded, it made for a good excuse!

[vlmagee]

Cotton Jenney, huh?

[johnfowles]

Cotton Jenney, huh?
Well CHar did quote "Jenney" no less than 4 times so I guess the song must have been renamed in honoUr of the wife of "Skipper Vard"

[charlene]

Old habits die hard..old friends are forever...
;)

[Dream Street Rose]

Hi Char,

Great job on the set lists. I don't know how you do it. Ken and I have tried several times but are way to slow. Thank you for sharing. :)

DSR

[vlmagee]

Hi Char,

Great job on the set lists. I don't know how you do it. Ken and I have tried several times but are way to slow. Thank you for sharing. :)

DSR

Use abbreviations or acronyms ... Wreck, DQ, SFAWN, etc ... works like a charm. Also, when you know what's coming next, you can often write down two at once (the most obvious these days being, ROD, Sundown (that one I don't abbreviate for some reason).

I have been writing down set lists for 30-something years, long before the internet or sharing. I'm not even sure why I started. It seemed part of the history of the event, and I could reread the set list and hear the concert again in my mind. I'd write down the set list, then when I got home it went into the drawer (box, pile) along with the ticket stubs and the program ... in some cases, never to be seen again until I moved.

[Jesse Joe]

That's really interesting Val, I might try that at my next concert.

[vlmagee]

Also, 3x5 cards work perfectly, with one set on each side. Then you aren't shuffling paper, and you don't need to bring anything to lean on as you write.

Note: if you aren't up front, it may be too dark to see what you're writing. Then you must either keep a finger at your place, so you don't write on top of the previous song, or use a pen light ... as you see, I have lots of experiience doing this!

Often you can know the song from his verbal intro, from the guitar he picks up (especially later in the show when you are down to just a few), from his shifting the capo on the 6 string (that means ODR or COTS), or from the first few chords (or sounds, as in Restless). Since you play guitar yourself, you'll probably find that you have written down the song before most of the audience knows what it is (ever notice the recognition applause by a handful of people upon the first few chords, and then the whole audience applauds when he starts the vocals and they all get it).

Taking down the set list is actually a lot of fun!

[jj]

Use abbreviations or acronyms ... it went into the drawer (box, pile) along with the ticket stubs and the program ... in some cases, never to be seen again until I moved.

lol. and some times not even seen again during or following a move!
atleast your set list archives probably dont take up much space

i was just instructed to move some of my stuff from one room to another, it was mostly old VHS tapes (photos, etc too) of video making attempts prior to non-linear digital editing capabilities but there must be about 30 boxes containing 50+ tapes each, ridiculous

anyhow, back to the subject, although i dont look at GL setlists for a tour year until after Ive seen the show you guys are amazing and deeply thanked! I also love looking at the archive of reviews at waynes site when the opportunity knocks

I saw char taking shorthand at the last gig, and it seemed to include song intros and anecdotes also...I was gonna try swipe her little book, lol...like dsr said, val. char, jen, etc really have the knack for this...I did it once for a friend who couldnt attend a blue rodeo concert and by halftime i was totally stressed out and flustered...3 songs would go by and I had gotten so into the stage analysis that Id forgotten to take notes...it was like trying to recall my golf score after forgetting to jot down # of strokes for 3 or 4 holes, no clue, bad short term memory here...so thanks again to you folks

if children had wings was a great surprise for me, i loved that arrangement also...the intro hook was gone (not a big fan of steel or e-piano anyhow) and there were some wonderful other tweaks that had me hanging on every note and nook and cranny of the performance

song for winters night was best really tops, way to go Gord and having Heff doing the closing section vocal ooos on keyboard instead was really getting a big thumbs up here

the mix was great all night, terry was in superb form and in full character...Heffs keys were fortunately kept to minimum level in the mix of EMR and CRT...all the guys were terrific

if i were at the sound panel i would have just boosted Heffs lovely warm strings during the watchmans gone, as warm as i was at Massey, that section always still gives me goosebumps...looks like I missed out on hearing My little love from earlier tour set list but other than that, not a single regret performance wise - you guys are gonna have some great stuff to put into a Gord Museum one day..I know we all have our mini-shrines located on mantels or in boxes, drawers, closets throughout fan homes all over the world :)

ok, Ive had too much coffee... happy Victoria Day weekend to my fellow GL hosers

[vlmagee]

Um, yes, I take down the intros and anecdotes too. It's a compulsion, I think! I like that he mentioned Bob Gibson (again) in his intro to CRT, since I do Bob's site too. In fact, it was because of Gord that I learned about Bob, since Gord credits him as an influence for both his 12 string guitar playing and for the song structure of CRT (and that's the reference he made on Saturday night: fast, slow, fast ...).

How did you like the fiddle sound Mike added in Alberta bound?

[jj]

Also, 3x5 cards work perfectly, with one set on each side. Then you aren't shuffling paper, and you don't need to bring anything to lean on as you write.

Note: if you aren't up front, it may be too dark to see what you're writing. Then you must either keep a finger at your place, so you don't write on top of the previous song, or use a pen light ... as you see, I have lots of experiience doing this!

Often you can know the song from his verbal intro, from the guitar he picks up (especially later in the show when you are down to just a few), from his shifting the capo on the 6 string (that means ODR or COTS), or from the first few chords (or sounds, as in Restless). Since you play guitar yourself, you'll probably find that you have written down the song before most of the audience knows what it is (ever notice the recognition applause by a handful of people upon the first few chords, and then the whole audience applauds when he starts the vocals and they all get it).

Taking down the set list is actually a lot of fun!

wow, I can relate to almost every word of your post with the exception of the last line, lol

I got a good chuckle over your keeping finger in place comment! ...I wonder if folks are doing similar documenting of concert details these days using blackberrys or texting, agh

[jj]

How did you like the fiddle sound Mike added in Alberta bound?

you read my mind, absolutely mesmerizing, that just gets more appealing every time!
previous tours I had thought it sounded a bit more like a harmonica, nice but inferior

a while back I gotta say i thought the sampled sound stuff was a bit cheesy (I am biased cos theres nothing i love more than an old clunky upright piano tone) and Id rather hear Terry guitar solos, preferable acoustic (such as Rather Press On) , in place of whatever exists on studio recordings but Ive been converted! ...Mike really has the feel happening, such a solid, reliable member of the orchestra... then again, which member is not, none

BTW one reason i really loved hearing Harmony in prior gigs was hearing Mike emulate the accordian, so sweet!

I am gonna check this thread later for any others piping in on the actual concert tidbits, the jam was wonderful but has received more airplay and comment than the GL gig itself, lol

cheers for now. thanks for the stimulation...bring on those notes anytime, char, val, etc:)
jim

[Jesse Joe]

Often you can know the song from his verbal intro, from the guitar he picks up (especially later in the show when you are down to just a few), from his shifting the capo on the 6 string (that means ODR or COTS), or from the first few chords (or sounds, as in Restless). Since you play guitar yourself, you'll probably find that you have written down the song before most of the audience knows what it is (ever notice the recognition applause by a handful of people upon the first few chords, and then the whole audience applauds when he starts the vocals and they all get it). by: Val


This is so true, once again I feel that Im not alone with certain things in life. Gordon Lightfoot has touch many of us in ways, that it's almost unbelievable. :)

[vlmagee]

wow, I can relate to almost every word of your post with the exception of the last line, lol

I got a good chuckle over your keeping finger in place comment! ...I wonder if folks are doing similar documenting of concert details these days using blackberrys or texting, agh

I have a Blackberry, but in my worst nightmare I wouldn't consider using it to take down a set list! My two thumbs typing is far slower than my old pen and paper writing - but some people do that. I believe that the Dylan set lists, historically called in by phone, are now often sent via Blackberry.

I was actually very tempted to take a few pictures with my Blackberry, but if there's a way to turn off the flash I haven't found it yet and I didn't want the flash going off in his eyes.

Maybe my "thumb typing" will have improved enough by next time for me to try it.

The other inhibitor is the 1.5 cents per kb that it costs for data in Canada (with my US AT&T account). So, a simple email that is maybe 20 kb costs 30 cents to send anywhere. That's not bad, but if you knew all the email I get you'd realize that I was looking at a $30 to $50 a day bill if I overused the Blackberry. I shut off some of my incoming mail (normally received via a forward which I turned off), and told the people who occasionally send me large files (Bill Hall with his wonderful mp3s) not to send me anything. Here's hoping my bill isn't too high. I'm afraid to look (it's online).

[jj]

Gord credits him as an influence for both his 12 string guitar playing and for the song structure of CRT

it may not be new to the vets, but had not heard him let out the I owned up to it later line, lol

[vlmagee]

it may not be new to the vets, but had not heard him let out the I owned up to it later line, lol

It was new to me too, and I loved it!

If somebody out there taped the concert and can send me that intro, I'd love to send it to Meridian Green (Bob's daughter). I did point her to the long comment by Gord in a recent interview online and I know she appreciated it.

[BILLW]

My daughter who is almost 16 wrote down the setlist for the Friday show. And she remembers all the comments ?? (wow!). Unbeknownst to me she snuck all my CDs to the computer and made me a two disc set using her notes and gave it to me for my birthday, complete with cover art and song listings. Great stuff to play in the car and considering the source it's something I'll keep forever.

Bill :)

[formerlylavender]

That's sweet, Bill. What a great birthday present. You're lucky to have such a thoughtful daughter who also happens to have fantastic taste in music. Is she a Gord fan herself?

[johnfowles]

Taking down the set list is actually a lot of fun!
a method that I have often used relies on a word/number association
procedure. A method once demonstrated on BBC-TV by one TonyBuzan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Buzan)
I have his useful book "Use Your Head" that was published by the Beeb in 1974
in which he describes his "Mnemonic" system for remembering any list of items
this method is well described on this web page
http://www.msoworld.com/brain/mag/2000/issue3/bpm3_5.html
"In Use Your Head, Tony Buzan presents a wonderful method for memorising up to ten items in a list - the Number-Rhyme System. As most readers of this magazine will know, it uses object 'pegs' which rhyme with the numbers one to ten. One is bun, three is tree, five is hive and so on. The even numbers follow the old children's ditty: one, two, buckle my shoe / three, four, knock at the door / five, six, pick up sticks / seven, eight, shut the gate / nine, ten, the big fat hen!"
I have successfully used this for setlists: the main problem is thinking and then recalling "peg" words to associate with numbers larger than the obvious first ten.
In 2005 I demonstrated it to some of the Lightfoot Orchestra, and young Barry was so impressed that at the next concert
he saved for me the stage copy of that nights setlist that had been relegated to the trash can after transposing to Gord's
master setlist book.
that book I saw Gord consulting after one of the four Florida concerts back in February
As post stroke writing legibly is difficult for me I made a determined attempt to remember all four setlists but inevitably
I forgot a few and the more time went on the more I got them all mixed up in my head.
the first (Gainesville) concert was easy. Gord opened with Triangle therefore all I had to remember was that a bun (=1) is usually round not triangular geddit?!!
Luckily Wayne has a network of informers, who he once informed me tell him the true setlist but I believe that the setlist for the private 2005 concert at Connecticut's Mohegan Sun Casino http://www.lightfoot.ca/051023.htm is there due to my memory
I note that he has so far only uploaded 2 of the 4 Massey 2008 setlists so perhaps CHar should gently remind him to read her corfid posting.

[charlene]

I use the method of pen and small notepad..If I am in the dark I keep a finger near the last entry..
First concert this series I was 3 songs into falling in love all over again when I remembered to start writing the songs down. I generally write the whole song title except for those few that I initialize or shortform. It's therapeutic to sit and do it .. and it keeps me from wanting to snap off too many pics if my hands are busy.. I never did it till 2000 at Mariposa I think, perhaps May 2001 at Massey..
I, like Val then keep all memorabilia, passes, tickets, from each concert together with all of my other Lightfoot stuff..
I think we need a 12 step programme..
lol

[lighthead2toe]

Too funny! I'd probably be the ultimate chronic case. Hey Char, can you just it now, Ron Jones showing up for a 12 step program with a 12 string guitar in hand. Definitely a Lighthead thing. RJ.

[jj]

I remember long ago when I first saw a major league game live from way up in the bleachers, the guy in front of me was scoring (ie. marking balls, strikes, 6-4-3 put outs, etc, etc) on log sheets throughout the entire 6 hour double header...dedicated!

I thought, isn't most of this info gonna be available in the paper tomorrow anyhow? I just figured he was an over the top, rabid ball fan and probably should see a shrink ...I never figured that what he was doing might actually be therapy itself! your comment actually makes a lot of sense, char:)

Ron Jones showing up for a 12 step program with a 12 string guitar in hand RJ.

lol, oh no, I'm a bit of a piano guy, so suppose I'm gonna be in rehab about 7x as long!