Fly over UK cities with Local Live.yeah right!!!

[johnfowles]

Today Jun 19th I received from the UK my June 15-22 subscription copy of a most splendid internet magazine Web User and read about the growing coverage in the UK of the newish and very interesting (to me at least) Windows Local Live aerial picture service, that I used to make great screenshots of the Statue Of Liberty the Empire State Building
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2082/empirestatebuildingn21ki.th.jpg (http://img195.imageshack.us/my.php?image=empirestatebuildingn21ki.jpg)
Sightseers on the Empire state Building
and New York's Intrepid Naval Museum/Concorde.
(the latter I have already displayed in
Topic: A Brush with the Famous
at:-
http://www.corfid.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000938;p=2
I have just googled and the article I read is now on-line at:-
http://www.webuser.co.uk/news/85516.html
where you can read that:-
"Microsoft has launched a UK version of its online mapping service Local Live which lets web users view cities from a 45-degree bird-eyes view.

The stunning-looking service currently only covers 230 square miles of London, and Portsmouth, Southampton and Cambridge, but this will soon be expanded, Microsoft says, so that within the two years Windows Live Local will have bird's eye imagery for 80 per cent of Europe's population.

The feature also lets users choose to look from North, South, East and West, and is detailed enough to see what types of car are parked outside peoples' houses."
there was a link to:-
http://www.local.live.com
Now after getting good clear screenshots of our house some New Jersey landmarks and New York's JFK airport
http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/8320/jfknorth12by.th.jpg (http://img54.imageshack.us/my.php?image=jfknorth12by.jpg)
JFK airport the Delta Airlines terminal
I decided to investigate further
I had previously tried unsuccessfully to get oblique views of 2 London landmarks
Buck House and the Royal Albert Hall
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/703/albertmemorialandroyalalbertha.th.jpg (http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=albertmemorialandroyalalbertha.jpg)
The Royal Albert Hall and The Albert Memorial
and could only get maps or good quality aerial views
I really cannot imagine therefore what on earth (to coin a phrase) the 230 square miles of London covers if those 2 major landmarks are not viewable as bird's eye views.
Even Tower Bridge London could only elicit a grudging Tower of London and as before only an aerial view or a map
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/290/toweroflondon8dn.jpg
Tower Bridge is at the bottom
OK I thought how's about the claimed other UK areas?
I decided that one of the most famous landmarks in Portsmouth is Nelson's Trafalgar flagship HMS Victory
and put in a search for her.
I was singularly unimpressed to be offerred successively locations in Hawaii; Atlanta, Georgia; Boston and for "Southampton England the Southampton Court House in Courtland Virginia!!

If you do not have a high speed connection you are also probably "shit out of luck" as loading anything on a dial-up takes oodles of patience
uhich reminds me I must also try to address the controversial subject of displaying pictures as I have been at odds with our moderator during the day and believe that Florian is on my side.
Please Note Well that the pictures displayed above use precisely none of florian's (as we now know) still limited and priceless paid for corfid web space as they are all stored on imageshack and moreover it is an unarguable fact that any bandwidth a.k.a file transfer/access usage/cost is borne not by corfid but again by imageshack. Also to aid those like me who are on a dial up I have used imageshack's convenient provided thumbnail links to show a small quick loading thumb that if clicked will open the the full sized screenshot(s) for those wishing to study it/them.
My point is that reading between those lines the loss of the forums yesterday and this morning has absolutely nothing whatseoever to do with my and Jessie-Joes displaying pictures here in profusion despite what as I understand many of you thought and expresed in emails or messages to Char so there!!
anybody who thinks they can prove otherwise is welcome to try
John Fowles

[ June 22, 2006, 14:35: Message edited by: johnfowles ]

[brink-]

Okay John, maybe you and Jessi Joe didn't cause the site to go down. BUT many of us are tired of all the pictures. Since you brought it up maybe it is time to address the issue. If they were related in anyway to the topic of this forum board it would be different, but 99% of them are not, and obviously the extreme number of pictures are on many peoples minds or they wouldn't have approached Char and Florian about it. Jessi has nearly 100 pictures posted of guitar accessories. Many are on dial up, the ones you so eloquently descibed as "SHIT OUT OF LUCK" if you and Jessi want to post nonsense pictures isn't there a site where you can post pictures and then post a link? Perhaps under one topic? Or delete the pictures after a week.
That is my opinion, John, "so there!!"

[Janice]

I really don't care if they were the cause of the site to go down or not, I find the excessive volume of pictures very frustrating and can't for the life of me find any relevence for 99.9% of them. I'll admit, a few of them are interesting - but not so interesting that I want to see them again and again and yet again as I scroll down to see if anything of consequence has actually been added to the *discussion*

I agree with Brink, Char and others in that it would be really nice if folks could just post a link to the pictures they want to share, so whomever might be interested can see them - once - and they won't be in the way of the conversation.

There's my pocket change.

[charlene]

quote;

If you do not have a high speed connection you are also probably "shit out of luck" as loading anything on a dial-up takes oodles of patience
uhich reminds me I must also try to address the controversial subject of displaying pictures as I have been at odds with our moderator during the day and believe that Florian is on my side.
Please Note Well that the pictures displayed above use precisely none of florian's (as we now know) still limited and priceless paid for corfid web space as they are all stored on imageshack and moreover it is an unarguable fact that any bandwidth a.k.a file transfer/access usage/cost is borne not by corfid but again by imageshack. Also to aid those like me who are on a dial up I have used imageshack's convenient provided thumbnail links to show a small quick loading thumb that if clicked will open the the full sized screenshot(s) for those wishing to study it/them.
My point is that reading between those lines the loss of the forums yesterday and this morning has absolutely nothing whatseoever to do with my and Jessie-Joes displaying pictures here in profusion despite what as I understand many of you thought and expresed in emails or messages to Char so there!!
anybody who thinks they can prove otherwise is welcome to try
John Fowles [/QB][/QUOTE]

Well John I must say your childishness/schoolyard behaviour and tattle-tale attitude leaves me gobsmacked.

I have, for many months had people speaking to me about the pictures. The why of them...the number of them....and yes they've asked if they take up the disc quota.

Whether they use bandwidth/space at CORFID is but one of the issues with the pictures.

Not every post requires a picture to illustrate it. This is a discussion forum and a couple of relevant pictures now and then is welcome by all. Including those who may be "shit out of luck" with dial-up.

Whether Florian is on anybody's side - and I wasn't aware there were sides - is ridiculous.

What transpired in e-mails between me, you and Florian should not be a topic here yet you, in such a brazen fashion brought it here. Do you not have any respect for Florian, this message board, or me, at all? Don't try to turn this into a schoolyard fight any more than you already have.

And if the huge number of pictures didn't crash the site then that's just fine...no need to issue a dare to anyone to prove otherwise.

The pictures take up time to download and scroll through, regardless of dial-up or cable and many here have previously expressed to me that they don't like the quantity and irrelevance of many of the pictures posted. Some do enjoy them however.

This site is for all to enjoy and when the enjoyment for a large number of members is diminished for any reason then the issue need to be addressed.

This is Florian's domain, I am the moderator and speaking for myself I know I have done a bang-up job for many years. Your trying to stir the pot is most unwelcome,disrespectful and deeply resented.

Florian - I am beyond sorry for this turn of events. I do feel that I must speak up for myself here as this is where I have been maligned.

Members - I apologize for this event.

I greatly look forward to Florian sending us the link to the new site and with it a new beginning for Lightfoot lovers.

Char

[charlene]

I love aerial shots of the earth - my favourite part of flying is looking out the window as the world passes by....so fascinating to see the geography change, the cities appear, the changes in the water...it's really quite amazing.

[LSH]

My main gripe is pictures posted in threads that have absolutely nothing to do with the thread...(and it's never just "a" pic, it's a succession of them)and having to scroll through them to get back to what members are saying in reply to the actual topic of the thread...which is why I'm there in the first place, to read the direct responses to the question or statement posed by the originator of any thread I happen to be in...

[TheWatchman]

I was directed by a banned member to check out the latest brew-ha-ha. Stop frothing at the mouth. Before you click your buddy list and start sending private messages, it wasn't my friend Mary. Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves about what you said about her. Ashamed. But that's another story and not the reason for my "delurking" as Bru aptly says.

At least I was upfront and honest with anything that I wrote. There is so much gossip that takes places in corfidland via private messages and it ruins friendships and drives people away. Look at you people lately. In my abscence I might add. What a shame.

You all have blamed me for the ill feelings around here, yet in my absence, they've only gotten worse. Look at the members who have left since I did! Can't blame those on me this time.

As you know, I have my own message forum and never, not once have we ever had a problem over there, and we've discussed everything from religion to politics. But to be fair, the members on my forum and those whom I consider friends, don't gossip and spread rumors. Yes, like me, they are upfront, don't beat around the bush and if something needs said, consider it done. We don't whine and cry "I'm offended", ever.

All the people who bashed me publically and privately are now fighting amongst themselves since I left. Actually, I'm very much aware of all the argueing that has taken place since my last post. The few that I thought were friends have proved otherwise as they have taken part in gossip-filled private messages about me. Don't forget, some of you like to "leak" and I'm not talking about any prostate problem.

As you are well aware, I'm a Christian. Some of you have repeatedly said that I'm a bad Christian because I'm direct, sometimes brash, sometime's post in an uncalled rude manner. You are correct in everything except me being a bad Christian. The one thing that I never did was gossip about any of you or say something in a private message that wasn't said publically. I do not gossip and spread or fan the fires of rumors, despite 98% of of the people here taking part in such things. I did not follow your lead, thank God for that! At least people knew who I was and like me or hate me, it was honest. 98% of you on the otherhand, are less than honest and belong to a thriving gossip mill. Shame on those involved.

Now that I've posted again, you all have a common enemy (me), so go back to being friends and go back to sending private messages about me instead.

[ June 22, 2006, 13:24: Message edited by: TheWatchman ]

[LSH]

Yay! Watchman 'delurks' for a moment!

[brink-]

Watchman, I am not in the least ashamed for anything that I said about Mary - she was out of line. Char was unable to answer her threatening Private Message because she had her blocked and then since she didn't get an answer she went on the forum, her own mistake since she was the one who made it impossible to keep it private.
I guess I am out of the loop because you haven't been the topic of my private messages. Since I was lucky enough to not ever be in the line of fire with you I didn't have a problem with you. I actually enjoyed you being on here for the most part and you and I had messaged and traded, no problem. You have posted your iroc site info yourself a long time ago. I was on myspace.com. For a totally different reason than you might think - I was looking for myspace sites of kids in my local community for a internet safety class that I had arranged. Then I hunted down DMD to invite him back to the forum. So if it me that you are referring to Sorry you were not on my mind.
I come on this forum for Gordon Lightfoot info, memories, friends, chat, etc. I don't like to discuss religion or politics. The saying about the sure way to lose friends is by talking religion and politics is true and has been around a long time.....your forum is out of the norm.
I feel I am a straight shooter - this discussion here is about how most everyone except John and Jessi Joe are sick and tired of pictures that have nothing to do with Gordon Lightfoot. It will come to a head and two people will get p/o'd and then all will be fine again.
I certainly appreciate the fact that you have decided to sacrifice yourself for the good of others, so we might get along.
Again, the reason that last boatload of people left was because of talking politics and religion. Read the topic or you probably already have.
Fact is I think everyone is tired of the bickering, is it going to stop? doubt it. Will we get along, usually. Is everything going to be perfect? never. But I am glad that we could prove that we weren't reliant on you alone for our fighting.

[Jesse Joe]

To The Watchman # 396. My man or woman I dont know you. But you are not too far off here. This site sometimes lately, is driving me to quit it. I agree with the private messages. There crying to Charlene who I have nothing against. She delivers there crys, and poor her she makes ennemys. Did you leave this site? It's a pityful shame, what goes on here lately, its all just jealous,of one another. This is all I have to say. :)
CHEERS TO YOU... JJ. :rolleyes: :eek:

[ June 20, 2006, 20:29: Message edited by: Jessi -Joe ]

[TheWatchman]

Brink,

"Watchman, I am not in the least ashamed for anything that I said about Mary"

That's great, but still, I am well aware of how all of that started and do not wish to continue with any discussions about it. Just remember, there are two sides to every story. My only point in bringing it up was that I didn't want anybody to think it was her that alerted me to the less than friendly atmosphere here as of late.

"Since I was lucky enough to not ever be in the line of fire with you I didn't have a problem with you. I actually enjoyed you being on here for the most part and you and I had messaged and traded, no problem."

Thanks for not having a problem with me. The trade was good, thanks for the Lightfoot show, I really appreciated it.

"You have posted your iroc site info yourself a long time ago."

Yes, I even had it posted in my profile. Not only that, countless times people would ask me to upload an image to my website, some songs, guitar tab etc. and then post the pics in the various threads so people could see them. So, not only did I post my URL, but I also used my website to help others out who at the time had no idea or means to post pics.

"I was on myspace.com. For a totally different reason than you might think."

No, I had no idea you were ever on MySpace much less form an opinion as to why.

"Then I hunted down DMD to invite him back to the forum. So if it me that you are referring to Sorry you were not on my mind."

Again, I had no idea you were ever on MySpace. I was not referring to anything about you, nor do I care at all if I was ever on your mind. Not to be short about it, but really, your above comment, well, leaves me no other choice.

"I come on this forum for Gordon Lightfoot info, memories, friends, chat, etc. I don't like to discuss religion or politics."

Very well. Not sure what the relevance is though...

"The saying about the sure way to lose friends is by talking religion and politics is true and has been around a long time.....your forum is out of the norm."

Yes, perhaps it is on both accounts. I have to agree, we do not have fragile ego's and are not easily offended. Yes, I guess this is not the norm these days.

"I feel I am a straight shooter."

Good.

"I certainly appreciate the fact that you have decided to sacrifice yourself for the good of others, so we might get along."

All sarcasism aside, I'm glad to do it. You see, me being without a fragile ego can sacrifice myself for common good of others. Seriously though, the angry posts have sky-rocketed since I left. More people left after I did than the first 3 years I was on this site.

"Again, the reason that last boatload of people left was because of talking politics and religion. Read the topic or you probably already have."

Okay, let's look at this. It's not the topics that forced people to leave, it's words of anger that people type that forced them to leave. But in one sense your right, politics did force some of them to leave. The politics of this site, not the government.

Hey, come on. People have bad mouthed my parents, my wife, me of course and even kids that I didn't have! I didn't leave. See, it's not the topic that causes people to leave. It's some peoples inability to be tolerant of others beliefs. I may disagree with someone, even disgree with strongly, but I have never nor will I ever make it personal.

"But I am glad that we could prove that we weren't reliant on you alone for our fighting."

Thanks, that's real nice. The truth is that although I have gotten into disagreements with some of you, even offended some of you, it WAS BETWEEN ME AND YOU! I never private messaged people to gain support or gossiped about you!! I never caused disarray amongst any of you as a group. Never, make no mistake about it. There is a huge difference, HUGE!!!

[ June 20, 2006, 21:13: Message edited by: TheWatchman ]

[TheWatchman]

Originally posted by Jessi -Joe:
To The Watchman # 396. My man or woman I dont know you. Am yes man I am. As Yoda would say. :)

[<Reminder>]

MistyMoppens,

Don't be too critical of the MySpace venue. It's just like the internet as a whole : a wonderful concept soiled by the nefarious deeds of humans. By keeping my interest confined to the music forum and not divulging too much personal info, I have discovered many interesting artists. Some of them would shame the American Idols, talent wise.

Just tossing in my 2 cents......

RMD

[<Reminder>]

To Watchman,

Welcome back. I don't think your criticism of Geodictman's posts were out of line. As you probably know, his posts are much more reader friendly now.
What goes on "behind the scenes" is of no interest to me.

RMD

[TheWatchman]

Originally posted by &lt;Reminder&gt;:
To Watchman,

Welcome back. I don't think your criticism of Geodictman's posts were out of line. As you probably know, his posts are much more reader friendly now.
What goes on "behind the scenes" is of no interest to me.

RMD In regards to Geodictman, I never knew he had a brain injury. Had I, I never would have made comment about his huge paragraphs and run-on sentences. They were very hard to read and after one or 2 lines, I couldn't take it anymore.

Actually, my comments to him were much less rude than what many others have said to other members in reference to spelling, not using paragraphs and especially using all caps. Funny thing is, if someone other than myself would have posted what I had, it would have been fine.

My response to that thread by posting "Good God" was because I was speechless at how everybody was acting. Like children. Steve's reply to me and others replies as well, were far worse than what I had posted; a quote from Webster's dictionary. Talk about fragile ego's...

I noticed the following day after my supposed rude post to Steve, he started to use paragraphs. Go figure. Again, I had no idea he had a brain injury. Come on, do you really think I would suggest that someone who suffered something so serious worry about paragraphs? It's laughable. But then again, those who have gossiped about me in the past and who have called me names etc., I know what your answer is.

[TheWatchman]

Originally posted by MistyMoppens:
I don't hang out on myspace so thanks for the handy link.

What I found interesting is Suberman's first "friend" listed. It's "GORDON LIGHTFOOT" complete with picture and "personal" details..

...such as the fact that he's "Divorced" (um.... nope.) and that he lives in "Los Angeles". (um... nope again...)

What's sad (and embarrassing) is to see people posting to this person as though he's the real thing. And this is "ok" with GL "fan" Suberman? What is this? His imaginary friend???(and a famous one at that) Reading the "About Me" info was painful. Barry Harvey should be notified about this because this impersonator is actually responding to people who contact him about "his" United Artists LPs. hmmm... creepy.

And this reminds me why I don't hang out at myspace... *sigh*... I didn't post the link to entice you to join! I posted the link so all this behind-the-scenes dectective work can stop. You know, some of you trying to put all the pieces together as who is really who on this site, John Fowles saying that he needs time to type up something to prove that DMD3 and Suberman are the same, that I'm listed as friends of people here who are banned. WHO CARES? It's all so childish.

I don't like it either that someone is trying to fool people that he/she is Lightfoot. I thought the entire profile was insulting.

People pose as other people here at cordid too...should this also be reminder to you about posting here? I don't think so. Gotta take the good with the bad when it come's to the internet because every site in the universe houses the same type of frauds.

[<Mary>]

I did have charlene blocked by accident because i was trying to figure out how that ignore and buddy list feature worked. After a couple days and i didn't get a response to PM #1, I tried to send her another PM and couldn't, because you can't send PM's to someone who is on your ignore list. So i immediately unblocked her and sent PM #2. It was an oversite on my part and i fully admit to that.

Perhaps my direct and to the point verbage made her feel threatened. Nobody can ever accuse me of not cutting to the chase and getting to the bottom of things.

If i had Charlene blocked the whole time, how could i have sent her the 2nd and 3rd PM's???

She just didn't want to talk to me.. i gave her almost 2 weeks to respond and talk about the problem and she completely ignored me. just another lie to add to the pile of crap here because she WAS NOT blocked after I fixed it the first time. LIES LIES LIES!

Brink was the one who started all this crap.. i was at work minding my own business and here comes her PM about my references to God that opened up Pandora's Box. Then more PM's from other people telling me different reasons.

Alot of you people toyed with me for weeks and then have the audacity to say I acted like i was in 3rd grade when all I di was re-act to your childishness. I bought concert and plane tickets in March to go to Toronto and meet you people this November.. what an idiot I was to think you all were my friends.

Oh and Cathy, about what you said about me thinking that I'm a raving beauty... those are your words not mine Honey!

Have a nice day!
:)

[charlene]

Apr.10, 12 and 14...3 P.M.'s sent from Mary.
After trying to respond to the first one I found I was blocked.
I didn't try again as I assumed that since I was blocked after the first PM then I would certainly be blocked after more threats in PM 2 and 3.
You can send messages to people you block - they just can't respond.

[<Mary>]

http://www.myspacedaddy.com/Myspace-Codes-Pictures/myspace-picture-codes-29.jpg

[geodeticman]

Watchman -

Howdy - I could not help but read the third-person references to me. I did not want the brain (and other pertinent) injuries to proceed me, but my entry into the room was with trepidation. I had not used a pc in over 4 years, typing sucked (still does) LOL, and....

making my typing more readable was a thing i needed to have brought to my attention. While your comments were a bit rough, I fired back on all cannons, feeling very..insecure. there - i said it.

But fragile ? Well now..... after walking out miles from 12,000 feet solo in the Rockies with half my leg hanging out and under femoral artery tourniquet, resecting my position and plotting a polar-rectangular course our in Lambert conformal coordinate inversion while bleeding to death, BEFORE the head injury, .... I'd say not so fragile. OK ? Insecure, OK. Neverhtless,

However, I stuck it out and improved. The paragraphs the next day were an effort (big) to take your critique to constructive use. I'm proud of my progress curve sice, and am much more tolerant of well-intentioned jibes. John is merciless !LOL

I just had not "read" you yet; I'd been out of arenas like this for a long time. Thank you for being understandably candid with me. I needed to improve. No matter others rallied to my defense - you were right - in principle, if not word.

I hope you can put that very difficult past I went through in my first month of posting behind you - I certainly have. Day to day my cognitive and dextrous skills vary, but sure are better now. All those long posts were good for at least me ! LOL

Say, Watchman, let's start fresh like regular good guys and shake, as you may recall I offerred back then. Truly - I'd enjoy posting with you oblivious of that first month of mine where I think Walls dropped in after 3 years to the great misfortune of reading one of my tome's !! I feel sorry for him. lol

Since you and i seem to be regular guys ( anybody who likes "The Watchman's Gone") has to be a good guy in my book :) , lets start fresh and no harm done, huh ? c'mon man ?

BTW - I am a Christian, too. Let's both behave like good ones and let by-gones be by-gones.You could have addrressed me directly as a stand-up guy, versus tangential references to me and my unGodly start-up in the room.

I see YOU are on the right track, but you are way heavy on the ham-handedness in your tact. And, I have never gossipped in PM's. it took me a month to figure out PM's ! duhhh :)

Our personas inevitably shine through Watchman, as kind people or not. Your light's flickering from your "strong wind" and high blood-pressure.
Relax, friend, and I suspect we'all have a forum again that.... that.....

Gordon Lightfoot would be proud of his fan's to read. !!

Watch on Watchman ! Did you know the original Watchmen in railroads would look for hobos jumping on , and then drop a lead billet on a rope down under the tracks to beat them to death where they hung on underneath, then jumped on board later ?

Don't do that in your anger man, you're to good a guy ! Odd in response to your feelings of persecution you persecute to validate your own statements somewhat. So get it out of your system, and I'd bet we'd all enjoy being friends again ? I sure do currently.

Welcome back. Start fresh ? Handshake ? Maybe soon - friends ? - Steve


geo Steve

[ June 21, 2006, 09:34: Message edited by: geodeticman ]

[geodeticman]

everyone - oops, I just realized this was "small talk" and anything within reason goes. Sorry for the following I wrote a few minutes ago when I felt it applied to the wonderful forum of general discussion about Gord and his music. But it was the comments in small talk that fuled this thought:

Everyone:
I just remembered again a real pertinent (imho) line from Gord's "The House You Live In": "Be known as a man who will always be candid on questions that do not relate" .

Words of wisdom. From the man.

I am in no way being sanctimonius. Rather, sacrosanct - with respect for all of you. I'd sure enjoy returning to this room where I can say why I like a song, and someone else agrees or disagrees, or offers another interpretation,
and the bickering ends. Limited pictures Germaine to the subject are OK with me. Let's talk GORDON LIGHTFOOT ! pullleeeease :) lol

- Steve

[ June 21, 2006, 09:26: Message edited by: geodeticman ]

[brink-]

Okay, let's look at this. It's not the topics that forced people to leave, it's words of anger that people type that forced them to leave. But in one sense your right, politics did force some of them to leave. The politics of this site, not the government.

I have to agree with this, but I also think if the topic hadn't started then the angry words wouldn't be present. People get firmly embedded in their beliefs and when logic doesn't work some resort to personal attacks.

[geodeticman]

Brink - agreed - Steve

[TheWatchman]

"Odd in response to your feelings of persecution you persecute to validate your own statements somewhat."

Quite the contrary. I am not persecuting, I am only speaking the truth about the deceitful things that are done behind people's backs. In other words, I'm only bringing to light what has been done in darkness. There is too much gossip and backstabbing (as if any of it is acceptable!). I mean look at the people who have been fighting. People who have been friends!! And what is in every arguement? "You private messeged this person this, this person private messaged me and their in agreement with so and so." Geeze man, am I and a select few the only one's who see this? Wake up, the coffee's done brewed and is caked like mud in the bottom of the pot.

To clear up this Christian thing...

If being passive means being a good Christian, then count me out. I'm not passive. When people have mentioned that I'm not a good Christian, and the reason why Christians have a bad name is because of people like me, I take issue with it. Especially when people use my beliefs to fire back at me because they have no other ammunition. This has nothing to do with you Steve. This has been something has been ongoing for a long time. The only person that I have to please is God, and of course my wife. I've never boasted that I'm a good Christian, nor have I ever asked for anyone to judge me on whether or not I am. I just don't care on that level, in this setting. I have no regrets.

When you publically affirm your belief as a Christian around here, even in the appropriate setting, your judged from that day forward. Anything you say or do will be judged and sentence passed on whether or not you live up to what you believe. If I say I think it's okay to trade bootlegs with other fans, people question my Christian beliefs. There's no end to it and I accept it. Fine with me, but don't expect me to sit here with my hands folded praying about it.

In my eyes, people are people whether they are Christians or not. Religion should not be brought into the picture to try and prove that someone is being mean, like me! :) Then judgements are made and sentence passed on whether or not I'm a good Christian. For me, that sh*t don't fly. Yes, I said sh*t, the bad, bad Christian boy that I am.

It's okay to mention God, occasionally, in passing, but if someone mentions anything personal about God, all Hell breaks loose, literally. Why? Because people get offended. This is where my reference to fragile egos also comes into play.

To me, the worst kind of Christian is one who does not stand up for his/her beliefs when they are trampled on. People who are afraid to talk out of fear of offending someone. I have never pushed my beliefs, I've only defended them. I respect other people's beliefs more than many of you could ever comprehend, but I'm not going to act like a monk tending to my garden pondering the beauty of butterflies either.

As far as being angry, I am not. I'm irritated at some of the accusations about myself and some friends, but far from being angry. I care enough to take time to post about it, but not enough to consume the necessary energy to be angry.

[<Reminder>]

MistyMoppens,

Just a note to concur with your thoughts about Suberman's Lightfoot site being "creepy". When I clicked on it, a Loudon Wainwright song started playing. Strange indeed.

I do hope that anyone beginning to explore the Lightfoot library is not mislead by such nonsense.

Boy.......that was weird.....

RMD

[geodeticman]

Watchman - too quick you read, too quick you reply, too quick you question your own convictions. And good ones in part imho

We are not here to individually say what is acceptable or not, just express our opinion. And politely, which you just did. You are right about not bringing Christianity into a music forum, except for the well-balanced talk we had the other day about Gord and religion. Many good differing points of view.

Do you know, if you re-read my longer letter above to you, and just edited, that of all the personal appeals to you, complimenting where you were right about your critique of my writing style, etc... let's be friends, handshake ?, etc, did u not hear ? do you not listen do u not care ? u are right - decent kind behavior transcends religion, and i swallowed my pride to help get u back in this room. I guess it was falling on deaf, and yes, still angry ears. Angry at others perhaps, but still too angry.


one more time - way back - u were right sorta, i HAVE improved, and even after almost groveling to be friendly you mention nothing of all this ? well.. excdept for saying all this PM'ing having nothing to do with me. guess i am not one of the players. hmmm don't know if i want to be.

there are some damn good people left in here, and your talk smacks of paranoia - classic. i challenge you to re-assess yourself, your anger, and your dictums as if your opinions were axioms. sorry.. it dont work that way. but still.... i offer at least one fresh start and friendly exchange from here on out.

You man enough to admit you just have emotions too ? Let it go. And please - don't tal about me as if i were a third party missive. You don't yet see what a good guy you are yet. Screw "branding" of me - and you I say to you friend - go with God. Therein lies OUR solace.
peace be with you Watchman - Steve

[TheWatchman]

Originally posted by &lt;Reminder&gt;:
MistyMoppens,

Just a note to concur with your thoughts about Suberman's Lightfoot site being "creepy". When I clicked on it, a Loudon Wainwright song started playing. Strange indeed.

I do hope that anyone beginning to explore the Lightfoot library is not mislead by such nonsense.

Boy.......that was weird.....

RMD This is exactly the type of thing I'm talking about. How do you know that Suberman is the same person that created the Lightfoot page? What the heck? Because Suberman has this Lightfoot page in his friends list? Heck, Mary is listed as my 1st friend does this mean I'm Mary? Maybe I am Mary. I've been her all along. Yep, at the Lightfoot concert that was really TheWatchman!! I was only acting like man all this time. And as far as my MySpace page, I just yanked a pic of some dude off of Google and used it.

Geeze people, please, stop this constant conspiracy theory garbage. Who care's if it's true anyway? It's not like DMD3 is the CEO of Enron! Man oh man.

[TheWatchman]

Originally posted by geodeticman:
Do you know, if you re-read my longer letter above to you, and just edited, that of all the personal appeals to you, complimenting where you were right about your critique of my writing style, etc... let's be friends, handshake ?, etc, did u not hear ? do you not listen do u not care ? u are right - decent kind behavior transcends religion, and i swallowed my pride to help get u back in this room. I guess it was falling on deaf, and yes, still angry ears. Angry at others perhaps, but still too angry.

there are some damn good people left in here, and your talk smacks of paranoia - classic. i challenge you to re-assess yourself, your anger, and your dictums as if your opinions were axioms. sorry.. it dont work that way. but still.... i offer at least one fresh start and friendly exchange from here on out.

You man enough to admit you just have emotions too ? Let it go. And please - don't tal about me as if i were a third party missive. You don't yet see what a good guy you are yet. Screw "branding" of me - and you I say to you friend - go with God. Therein lies OUR solace.
peace be with you Watchman - Steve This is the exact reason why I didn't respond to your entire post earlier. Although you extend your hand to me, you also speak to me with a forked tongue. People who do this, I have no use for. I have no idea what you edited in or out of that post, and frankly, I don't care.

Do not come to me as a friend and at the same time throw your little darts at me. I'm not paranoid, read the above thread dude. Being firm and unwavering is not being angry. You can be firm, unwavering and angry all at the same time, but just because you are firm and unwavering does not mean your angry.

You obviously are though because it seems to have messed up your typing. Relax.

[<Mary>]

:eek:

[<Mary>]

http://www.myspacedaddy.com/Myspace-Codes-Pictures/myspace-picture-codes-11.jpg

Better living through benzodiazapines!

[<Mary>]

Originally posted by Jessi -Joe:
quote:Originally posted by &lt;Mary&gt;:
http://www.myspacedaddy.com/Myspace-Codes-Pictures/myspace-picture-codes-29.jpg Good photo Mary, but be careful, some people dont like photos on this site. 'Dial up', 'There Shit Out Of Luck,' that's becoming the famous quote here at Corfid , Ive heard it by many different folks. [/QUOTE]I like Jessie Joe!!! :cool:

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[<Mary>]

Originally posted by brink-:
Watchman, I am not in the least ashamed for anything that I said about Mary - she was out of line. Char was unable to answer her threatening Private Message because she had her blocked and then since she didn't get an answer she went on the forum, her own mistake since she was the one who made it impossible to keep it private.
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[<Reminder>]

To Watchman,

You are absolutely correct in scolding me for attributing the Lightfoot link on Suberman's page to him/her personally. I have no idea of its origins.

That being said, however, I do believe that a true Lightfoot fan would not allow such tripe to clutter their page.

I stand corrected and at ease.

RMD

[Doug]

As an old AMLer I'm having a very difficult time reading some of the previous self-absorbed, narcisistic postings, and believing what I'm reading. I will not single anyone out because there are several and it would serve no purpose. I just gotta ask, are we grown ups or a bunch of little kids?

Is it the hotter weather? Months with no Lightfoot?

And speaking of Lightfoot I think he'd be appalled with many involved with this group.

What brings us together is our love of all things Lightfoot. Perhaps we can let that love reflect in a way that is positive.

If you can't, than perhaps you can live by what our mothers told us: "If you can't something nice about somone, don't say anything at all"

[talbot10]

How about Dem Mets!!!
Bill

[charlene]

Originally posted by talbot10:
How about Dem Mets!!!
Bill Carlos Delgado is playing well...he was a great Jay !
;)

[talbot10]

Originally posted by charlene:
quote:Originally posted by talbot10:
How about Dem Mets!!!
Bill Carlos Delgado is playing well...he was a great Jay !
;) [/QUOTE]The Jays look good too Chrzo!
Bill

[<Mary>]

:eek:

[LSH]

Doing something I rarely do here, but want to say this much:

I have always found Watchman to be upfront in his posts, no matter his opinion. This is a man with whom you can go toe to toe, and he'll respect you for that. I KNEW he would never have made a comment to Steve to hurt. I took it as a jest, and knew that Watchman had no knowledge of circumstances.

The forum would have been much better served, as would the people involved, if someone had taken time to privately let Watchman know. Instead, it was a free for all on him.

I miss Watchman being a part of this forum, and don't think things improved one iota with his leaving.

They've become worse. And Char has become a babysitter and constant dispute settler. Ridiculous position for her to be put in.

With so many on here, and so many differing views and opinions, things are bound to get heated now and then. What Al said about not making it personal or taking things personally says it all. Definitely a good watch phrase and perhaps a call to common sense as opposed to arms. And though not everyone is going to agree or get along with each other, that shouldn't preclude having an open mind or at least some tolerance and understanding of human nature.

Too much infighting is poisoning the site.

Al, may I point out my prolific and correct use of capitalization :)
Just a little token of my appreciation in seeing you posting again..however short lived it may be.
If you decide not to continue posting, do come back and rattle the cage at least occasionally... please! :)

Also, perhaps the longest post I have ever made...must be the percoset my dentist prescribed...(I would have preferred some of the pills in the pic posted above...)

[ June 21, 2006, 19:22: Message edited by: LSH ]

[Shutup and Deal, I'm Losin']

entries found for narcissistic.
nar·cis·sism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (närs-szm) also nar·cism (-szm)
n.
Excessive love or admiration of oneself. See Synonyms at conceit.
A psychological condition characterized by self-preoccupation, lack of empathy, and unconscious deficits in self-esteem.
Erotic pleasure derived from contemplation or admiration of one's own body or self, especially as a fixation on or a regression to an infantile stage of development.
The attribute of the human psyche charactized by admiration of oneself but within normal limits.


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This is for anyone like me who did not know what that word means. :)

[talbot10]

Also, perhaps the longest post I have ever made...must be the percoset my dentist prescribed...(I would have preferred some of the pills in the pic posted above...) [/QB][/QUOTE]

LOL Laurel! That does sound like an intersting pill!! I am not sure it would go good with my cab however!!
Bill

[MistyMoppens]

Originally posted by TheWatchman:

Do mean he would be appalled with many members of this group for bickering, or for selling Lightfoot bootleg CD's for $15 per CD? Which do you mean?

I can see Lightfoot being appalled for copywrite infringement, but I just can't him caring at all about the bickering. Selling is entirely different than fans trading or sharing. Maybe I'm wrong though.From my experience in speaking with Gordon I feel as though he couldn't possibly care less about the bickering, etc. He already has a negative attitude about the Internet. Besides, he's had so much turmoil in his own personal life that this stuff wouldn't even register.

I know that copyright infringements upset him a great deal. And he would certainly understand fans trading rare items that aren't availavle on the mainstream market. No harm there. But he would be beyond livid if he were to discover that someone is not only impersonating him on the Internet but also communicating with his fans. The person responsible will rue the day they put that profile up should he ever discover it. The fur will fly. (IMO)

Watchman/Al - I was sad to read that you would have never hassled Steve about not using paragraphs had you known he had a brain injury. He does not owe you an excuse or a reason for not using paragraphs. He was not attempting to provoke anyone. He was simply trying his best to communicate. Why was that not good enough for you?

Did the Spelling Police come along to publicly ridicule you for not correctly spelling "CopyRIGHT"? No. So let's just accept each others' quirks & foibles. He's made several attempts to reach out to you in a genuine spirit of forgiveness and friendship. I'm sad to see you couldn't be more gracious about it.

Nice posts, Steve. You are a very BIG man. I admire your courage and determination.

[TheWatchman]

Originally posted by MistyMoppens:
From my experience in speaking with Gordon I feel as though he couldn't possibly care less about the bickering, etc. He already has a negative attitude about the Internet. Besides, he's had so much turmoil in his own personal life that this stuff wouldn't even register.Great, we agree on that. My question was rhetorical. Besides, you all have aired his "turmoil" too many times to count.

Originally posted by MistyMoppens:
Watchman/Al - I was sad to read that you would have never hassled Steve about not using paragraphs had you known he had a brain injury.Why would that make you sad? So, you would rather I "hassle" Steve knowing full well that he had a brain injury? That's sick. Move on.

Originally posted by MistyMoppens:
He does not owe you an excuse or a reason for not using paragraphs. He was not attempting to provoke anyone. He was simply trying his best to communicate. Why was that not good enough for you?What planet are you from? Seriously, come back down to earth and put down the crack pipe. You are putting words into my mouth which I do not appreciate. Head games, stop playing them please. Again, re-read my posts once you put your crack pipe down.

Originally posted by MistyMoppens:
Did the Spelling Police come along to publicly ridicule you for not correctly spelling "CopyRIGHT"? No.Spelling police no, but I was corrected. Even if somebody said "get the dictionary Watchman! You spelled it wrong you moron!" I would laugh and say, crap, I did spell it wrong. Besides, in the past, I HAVE BEEN SCOLDED FOR MISSPELLING THINGS and I never made an issue out of it because it's no big deal! I've been called much worse things here than a moron. I been told much worse things then quoting the dictionary too. Good grief man, give it up.

Misty, as long as you are going to put words into my mouth, which is a form of lying as far as I'm concerned, I will not continue with any further communications with you. Grow up and learn to read.

[<Mary>]

Originally posted by talbot10:
Also, perhaps the longest post I have ever made...must be the percoset my dentist prescribed...(I would have preferred some of the pills in the pic posted above...) LOL Laurel! That does sound like an intersting pill!! I am not sure it would go good with my cab however!!
Bill [/QB][/QUOTE]
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Percocet - OXYCODONE/APAP TABLETS 10/325 mg 100s CII

[MistyMoppens]

Originally posted by &lt;Mary&gt;:


If i had Charlene blocked the whole time, how could i have sent her the 2nd and 3rd PM's???
Mary/someday/changes:

You were banned from this website months ago.

You clearly "unblocked" Char just long enough to fire off more venom.

I've never addressed this issue before. As you know I liked you very, very much in the beginning, Mary. I was fully supportive of you & concerned about all your many personal dramas/issues. My heart truly went out to you. And I was thrilled when you where able to meet & spend time with Gordon. WE ALL WERE. (very much so and that's the truth no matter what your "true friend" said)

Until I saw you foolishly fall victim to the one person here with a long-standing personal agenda/vendetta against Char. You were new here so you, of course, had no clue. What began as your possible concern about being suddenly "ignored" by other members quickly became hurt feelings. And with that this certain member began fanning the flames until your hurt feelings exploded into paranoia and rage.

You weren't "ignored" Mary. But I did notice that in your happy enthusiasm you posted dozens of topics, per day, all about your personal life AND those of your friends. You posted about the many aspects of each and EVERY one of your days... Such as discovering CAD systems, etc. It was just exhausting to keep up with so after a while people just backed off. If you look at this site we don't get very much into each other's personal lives EVERY SINGLE DAY. And we don't start several topics, per day, about each and every day of our existence. Personally, I just lost interest in your topics but I thought, "Oh, she's new.. she has to learn on her own. It's cool. Just give her time to learn on her own through her own experience." I know lots of people here and everyone liked you. I had just assumed they, like me, shyed away from so many personal topics each day.

And someone saw your vulnerability and made full use of it. You were used to create turmoil here. It worked. Please do some serious soul searching about this. Because you do not want to continue your life being used like this. It makes you a Fool.

I've known Char for 6 years and I've seldom known a person with a kinder, more supportive and generous heart than hers. Mary - you broadsided her in a very big way. She was totally clueless by your attacks. And no one deserved this less than her.

On Judgement Day you will know the truth and be so very ashamed of yourself & mortified by your ignorant stupidity. Because you were "had" by a viscious person an innocent person was harmed in the process.

So I can no longer be supportive of you in any way. You have, yet again, taken it "too far."

[ June 26, 2006, 23:57: Message edited by: MistyMoppens ]

[<Reminder>]

MistyMoppens,

Just in case you missed it...in one of his postings Watchman rightfully criticized me for "jumping to conclusions" (a cliche, not his words).

But I will maintain that one would have to be either ignorant, careless, naive or duplicitous to allow the appearance that Lightfoot is appealing to the MySpace community for friends.

Know your friends,

RMD

[joveski]

hey bill... i'm here finally!

hey al... good to see you posting!.

back to the original topic of images:

i'm not supposed to be looking at "non work related stuff" in the department. i still do it though!. if its just text, who knows what you're reading? - could be work related. so i try and do it quickly. in A LOT of cases, while i'm quickly flicking through text on this site, a huge picture will suddenly take over the screen as it loads up. then i have to quickly do the alt-tab job to another screen... still its enough for people to see, i'm dodging something shifty!

i agree there are too many non-gord related images posted.

as for the board in general, compared to some message boards i visit, this one is quite ok. i'm a three stooges fan - on that forum, the moderators will ban you if you dont use capital letters or proper punctuation!

on dylanpool, you can get away with any political/religious insults and use whatever language you want

thats my 2 cents worth...

over to you, borderstone! :D

[<Mary>]

To Misty.. May the God's light shine down on your life.... http://midatlanticwx.com/publicgallery/albums/sky/normal_crepusculara_03.jpg

[geodeticman]

Misty -
Thank you. :)

[TheWatchman]

Nice, Char is deleting my posts now. Looks like somebody doesn't like to look in the mirror. I would never "rat" anybody out, but at the same time, wanted to put an end to the psychobabble and hypocrasy. I see he deleted his post, but since I quoted him, his nonsense still remained so the only way to get rid of his garbage, you deleted my posts for him. Too bad he had to stick his nose into something that he knew nothing about. I don't fault him for that, but he shouldn't have come into this the way that he did.

My initial post was a "if the shoe fits, wear it" kind of thing. Some of you jumped right in and put the shoes on, which surprised me because the people whom my return was directed at, haven't posted yet, nor will they. Their like rats scattering to the bushes when they see headlights.

I left this site but it wasn't enough for some of you. So you had to continue to talk trash behind my back which is normally fine. But you couldn't just leave it there you had to bring my beliefs into the picture once again and then put me into one of your little theories of who is who on corfid and who's friends with you. :) So damn childish but again, trash my beliefs and my ears perk up. This time I felt the need to set the record straight.

More than one cofidian has started posts out to me talking trash and then say, "can we be friends? I'm offering this to you and I'm offering that to you." Come on, get a life.

One good thing, you all seem to be getting along a lot better now. I told you the common enemy thing would work! Don't worry, I'm not here to post in the latest riddle solver thread.

I've said all that I have to say, but if any of you continue with garbage posts to me, I will respond this time.

[charlene]

I deleted nothing.

The owner of this site has that ability just as I do.

Don't assume anything you don't know about.

[geodeticman]

Watchman,
You know, I did re-read my posts to you above. I looked for any signs of forked-tongue words that could be innocently misintepreted by you as such, and see by and large, frankly, a preponderance of an eggregiously groveling attempt to make friends with you. I am sorry - that must have sounded disingenuous.

I can see your point about the "little darts here and there...sorta..", but I thought you spoke of not being too fragile. I am however very sorry if I hurt your feelings.

Please make no mistake I am being genuine, and trying very hard to be on a friendly basis. And, that does mean putting some old wounds to healing for both of us. Let's call it , on both our parts, a well-meant misunderstanding of one another.


I am surprised after all these attempts I have made, you would still comment on my typing gettng worse. I am sorry - I got back from a very difficult day of physical rehabilitation today.

Neurologically I have a ways to go. But, I'll take my licks like a man, it's cool. I am not angry, I am just a little too old and the bark's peeling here and there too much !


I personally know I am being genuine and trying to be a stand-up guy, after 26 years of faithful marriage, and a beautiful 24 year old daughter who is about to marry a great guy, and a career I love. Can't wait for the Doc to say go back, OK ! :)

I am "back" enough to see I have embarrassed myself by offering my hand in friendship, depite the little flotsam and jetsam of advice for you. That comes a bit with age. Its called referential respect. But I can see you are not open to it. I am open to yours; this final response being evidence.

I will endeavour to consider your thoughts. But, please let US not overestimate our respective impacts.

I am quite relaxed, It is interesting you corrolate that with my typing gettinh worse. That is whats called a spurious corrolation. aka aint got nothin' to do with it.

But thank you, because I am really trying to improve my written communications before i return to work; this helps. You are to be commended for your kind assistance in pointing it out ! You know, the way in martial arts, when you get hit, and say "thank you" - for exposing the others flaw in form by being hit.

You know, Watchman, I'll bet if you and I were to sit down and comapre notes on life,love, religion, and all, we'd probably be surprised what great thoughts and dreams we share !

But I am , again, "back" enough to see rather ,....clearly... that you'd rather not let it all go, with regard to our abortive attempt to be friendly posters to one another. You need not say more.

Should you decide to stay in the room, you can count on anytime you wish to post to me, you can count on barbless wire on the range.

Maybe sometime we can call one another friend, but I think it won't kill either one of us to not make it today. I wish we could be though.
I really do think you made several fair points historically and presently here and there; all a matter of degree and perception seemingly making the difference. You seem slow to trust - thats probably good. Quick friends we both know are short time friends, usually.

Unequivocably this time, tongue all in one piece ;) (no forks !) - peace be with you Watchman - I truly hope that which troubles you with regard to the room - I know nothing of these conspiracies and PM's, and other things in life if any that trouble you (and who doesn't) - be comforted by your faith - I do not judge you. I just still think you are a good guy on many right tracks. I hope these "train tracks" converge and coalesce into what you want.
- Steve

[TheWatchman]

I forgot that someone else owned this site. I also shouldn't have assumed that you know how to delete posts.

[Jesse Joe]

Joveski, {QUOTE} "I agree there are too many non-Gord related images posted,... this one is quite ok, Im a three stooges fan."


Now,here is a good example, nothing against you Joveski, Im just trying to make a point here. Your a three stooges fan. Now for someone that is not a three stooges fan, should he send a private message to the moderator, because what does the three stooges have to do with Gord.

Just asking? This is not directed at you Joveski. It is directed at those who dont like what me and John Fowles post, and they complain to the moderator. Guitars are a part of Lightfoot's life. I know it's not only guitars or how many, but where do we draw the line?

Charlene can you be of assistance with this one?
Your friend &gt;&gt;&gt;JJ.

[ June 22, 2006, 15:35: Message edited by: Jessi -Joe ]

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by Jessi -Joe:
because what does the three stooges have to do with Gord.
As you so astutely observed J-J "not a lot" but at:-
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/music/article/0,2792,DRMN_54_4763061,00.html
I read these (almost) linking sentences in a Canadian supergroup Bare Naked Ladies review:-

"The Canadians are an odd breed in how they choose favorites," Page said. "I thought we'd be, like, 49th. I was watching with my kids and I thought we had missed it. They played American Woman (by the Guess Who) and then Heart of Gold (by Neil Young). Then they played $1000000."

The ditty full of wordplay and cultural references also bested legendary tunes by Gordon Lightfoot, Joni Mitchell, Bruce Cockburn and Leonard Cohen. "The song has come to mean something special to a lot of people. It represents memories of good times, of trips abroad and of family. People come to feel it again," Page said."
and
"including the silly band name Page and Robertson came up with while sitting bored at a Bob Dylan concert.
"Early on Ed and I got a job opening for Corky and the Juice Pigs. They were like the Three Stooges meets the Ramones," Page said."
I always wanted to know how they got that name now we can blaim it on Joveski's favourite!!!

[Shutup and Deal, I'm Losin']

Actually, Geo-dude, your typing isn't near as bad as it was before. Still just tad long, but very readable. You're separating your posts into paragraphs now, and that's a big help. You're doin' much better now, keep it up. :)

[joveski]

the three stooges bit isnt anything to do with pictures. i was comparing how this board more relaxed to that one.

as for the pics, i've never complained to a moderator about them... actgually never complained to a moderator about anything!

[charlene]

JJ - there is no need for anyone to contact me or Florian because someone mentioned something in a post.

Joveski "mentioning" the 3 Stooges (and Dylan) is a poor example of the point you are trying to make.

You know as well as I that he did not start a topic about them in the wrong forum nor has he insulted anyone.

However it is not lost on me as to what point you really are making.

your friend,
Char

[Jesse Joe]

OK Whatever, Thank's,

John.

Joveski.

Charlene.

[ June 22, 2006, 17:06: Message edited by: Jessi -Joe ]

[Janice]

Originally posted by Jessi -Joe:
Joveski, {QUOTE} "I agree there are too many non-Gord related images posted,... this one is quite ok, Im a three stooges fan."


Now,here is a good example, nothing against you Joveski, Im just trying to make a point here. Your a three stooges fan. Now for someone that is not a three stooges fan, should he send a private message to the moderator, because what does the three stooges have to do with Gord.

Just asking? This is not directed at you Joveski. It is directed at those who dont like what me and John Fowles post, and they complain to the moderator. Guitars are a part of Lightfoot's life. I know it's not only guitars or how many, but where do we draw the line?

Charlene can you be of assistance with this one?
Your friend &gt;&gt;&gt;JJ. Hey Jessi-Joe, let me see if I can shed some light on what some of us are talking about.... Joveski used the Three Stooges forum as a comparison to this one, making the point that this one ain't so bad. He didn't post a picture of the Three Stooges within his message - that's the difference. I personally have no problem with your thread of all the guitars and various stuff - because it is a thread of it's own, I don't have to deal with any of those pictures since there is no discussion in that thread that I have an interest in (meaning that I don't even bother opening it, now that I know what it is). However, all these unrelated pictures that folks post within a discussion thread are what I'm talking about (and based on those who have posted similar thoughts, I imagine it's what they are talking about as well - but I can't speak for them). This thread alone has some examples - not posted by you or John, but still examples of what some of us are talking about. Just because some of us don't care for all the visuals, for varying reasons, doesn't mean that we think any less of the people who post them - you're still great guys. All we're suggesting is that we keep the "discussion threads" as text and have some other place, or designated thread - such as your guitar thread, for pictures to be posted. Contrary to the common belief, a picture is not always worth 1000 words :)

[ June 23, 2006, 03:05: Message edited by: Janice ]

[Jesse Joe]

Very good explanation Janice. :)

[geodeticman]

Doug
As a fellow old AMLer too, I remember you but as I recall you said you did not remember me, back then ( circa '2000) as mapgeek, and similar names when i changed ISP's.
Point is, I coudn't agree more with your points. I do believe most have had good intentions and are truly fine people, its apparent that several very distressing things have happened. Since I don't know all the stories, I simply share your dismay at such unpleasantness from a few reflecting poorly on a fine group.

Wishing you well ole' plumb - I miss the day in AML when live chat was the rule every day. I truly think we got to know each other better that way, and had correspondingly fewer problems day to day as I recall.

Awfully good group in here though, with thoughtful moderation and administration. Hope to here from you more again old friend. I realize my new name is not registering with you from our PM quite a while back, But thats cool - just good to hear from you again.

I envy you that beautiful San Diego weather. Do you go to Gord's old favourite "put-in" slip at Humphrey's By The Bay concert venue/hotel/etc. out on the Island ( more of an isthmus, but that doesn't quite roll off of the tongue LOL) for concerts ?
Steve aka mapgeek mapman GISman from prodigy chat days of GL then AML , now here.

- take care

[Doug]

Originally posted by geodeticman:
Doug
As a fellow old AMLer too, I remember you but as I recall you said you did not remember me, &lt;SNIP&gt; I envy you that beautiful San Diego weather. Do you go to Gord's old favourite "put-in" slip at Humphrey's By The Bay concert venue &lt;snip&gt;
Steve aka mapgeek mapman GISman from prodigy chat days of GL then AML , now here.

- take care

[Doug]

Originally posted by Doug:
quote:Originally posted by geodeticman:
Doug
As a fellow old AMLer too, I remember you but as I recall you said you did not remember me, &lt;SNIP&gt; I envy you that beautiful San Diego weather. Do you go to Gord's old favourite "put-in" slip at Humphrey's By The Bay concert venue &lt;snip&gt;
Steve aka mapgeek mapman GISman from prodigy chat days of GL then AML , now here.

- take care [/QUOTE]Let's try this again....

Steve, I do remember you and I believe I posted that here. I still have a communication you sent me on July 13 1997.

San Diego is indeed a beautiful area to live in. Fortunately I purchased a home when they were still affordable for the working class. We went to the Padre game last night and it was cool enough that some around were wearing jackets. The ballpark is almost on the bay which keeps it cool and breezy.

I last saw GL here last April, at an indian casino called Sycuan. That was his first full performance after his "mechanical failure".

We've got tickets for the Aug 27 performance at Humphreys.

[geodeticman]

Thanks Doug,

Sorry I forgot your first reply. I do remember that now. Its the memory thing - no need to elaborate medically anymore :)

Every year there is a practical-learning conference in what I do when I am working - almost back medical-wise ! (Geographic Info Systems - GIS Mapping) at the San Diego Conference Center. The one with a sail-fabric-covered giant patio. Its on the main North-South drag. It woyld say ESRI Annual Conference 2006
It sshould be starting any day. You can see the map exhibit from users of the software for free w/o general exhibit if it interests you (long-shot !).

I have friends in La Jolla and love all the lush gardens in the precariously-perched finer homes in the area. Beatiful. I do like the isthmus-island that Humphreys-By-the-Bay is on, and have heard Gord used to love putting in there to a slip not momre than 75 feet from his lawn venue. I guess that would have been "Sundown" (the boat) before he sold it around 1982 ?? . I staued at Humphrey's for an ESRI Map conference several years back, was a bit musty/mildewy, but since it was only missing a GL concert there by 2-weeks I could have kicked myself !

I hope business is good for you Doug,

Again, I am embarrassed I forgot our previous conversation of same a while back.

From your profile, speaking of teaching seminars, it looks as though professional plumbing licensure in Calif. is a pretty rigorous CE units State, as is Surveying and Mapping Science is in Colorado.

Thanks for the note - I'll tie a memo to my nose to not write on same "remember me?" duhhh thing,

LOL - u take care - Steve