Corfid Member Map

[BILLW]

Since I know that a lot of folks rarely visit the 'Small Talk' forum I'm taking the liberty of moving The Watchman's excellent post over here. It would be very cool if all corfid members put themselves on the map. Here it is:

I saw this on another site and thought it would be cool to see on a virtual map where all Lightfoot's fans are located. I set up an account there for us and it's very easy to add yourself. No personal information is needed and you can also post a picture. The default setting is for North America but you can zoom in and out wherever you want.

http://www.frappr.com/corfid

[byKimberly]

How fun! Great idea!
Kimberly

[BILLW]

The directory notes that our #1278 member signed up yesterday. The new map has 28 members listed. So we've only got 1,250 to go. Not bad for only a few days.

Bill :)

[Molly]

BillW it was a boring day, so I did some searching. There are 64 pages of registered members, 18 of those have listings of people that registered but never left a post, 16 pages of people that left 1 post, out of the last 30 pages 21 pages of registered users had less than 20 posts. Wonder how many still read this site and just never post.

[New 12 String Mike]

I'm there! No photo yet.

[GJA]

I added myself...not sure if I did it right!

[Sydney Steve]

As a gracious present to the women of the world I have added myself. Steady ladies, steady...If you must swoon then please take a number and do it in an orderly fashion.

[Borderstone]

I'm on and in! :) That wasn't so bad now! Can i have a lolly? :D

[Minstrel Man]

Very cool BillW. I've now put myself onto the map. It's a neat thing we've created.

[BILLW]

Great work ! We've got 42 on the map so far. How about we shoot for 100 by year end ?

Bill :)

[BILLW]

Hello again,

Just putting this back up top so we can get over 100 members on the map by December 31, 2005 and win the big prize.

Bill :)

[Jim Nasium]

Oopps, just uploaded a pic and somehow got 2 up there. How do we delete?

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by Jim Nasium:
Oopps, just uploaded a pic and somehow got 2 up there. How do we delete? That is actually Mr Nasium quite simple. Just click on the link to "Contact admin" which I have just done having on my first attempt contrived to make a stoopid typo in my own name
and leave a suitable message and with luck the requisite Admin guy , which I assume to be the erstwhile watchman Al will sort you out.
In passing I noted the pretty canine picature displayed by "someone". Is that Mary an indication that you are a bitch??
I thought there was a very nice shot of you there before. feeling shy??
Not so the Sydney hooligan who chose to display himself I presume squatting on his outside "dunny"
I am most impressed with the mapping facility which looks like the handiwork of Google earth no it might be digitalglobe/earth atlas.
Whatever even with my slow dial up with patience and after I got used to the zoom and direction controls I was able to capture the following small screenshots
http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/sherborne/map1.jpg

the general Bristol/Yeovil/Southampton area I know so well having been my own company's salesman for nigh on 30 years.
now to zoom in:-

http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/sherborne/map2.jpg

Nearly there

http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/sherborne/map3.jpg

Bingo!

Now lets try the "satellite" view:-

http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/sherborne/satellite1.jpg

Nar too much cloud (this is England remember)
Oh well it'll have to be the "hybrid" view:-

http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/sherborne/hybrid1.jpg

Wonderful
John Fowles
See the children of the earth Who wake to find the table bare
and for a change
When I stand on my own sod It feels so good to be home, by God .

[MistyMoppens]

Originally posted by Sydney Steve:
As a gracious present to the women of the world I have added myself. Steady ladies, steady...If you must swoon then please take a number and do it in an orderly fashion. OK. I'm number 83. But just look at that chick in the corner banging her glass on the table and wolf whistling at your legs...

[Jim Nasium]

Thanks very much JF I have done as you suggested. If the requisite Admin guy ,the erstwhile watchman Al, reads this post, I apologise for my perfunctory message, in attempting to paragraph my request, the message was sent.

[violet Blue]

Thanks. I got a deal for you. It's a three for one. I'll take your Mother-in-Law in trade for my three siblings? All three live on the west coast and they're too cheap to buy a plane ticket to come and visit you, and the only time they'll ever call you is if someone in the family they don't like dies. Whadda ya say?

Oh, hmmm, gee, did that maybe sound a little bitter? Can't imagine why that would be :)


Originally posted by MistyMoppens:
I'm going to add two of my three locations to the map but I'll have to draw the line there. My Mother-In-Law somehow thinks it's "OK" and/or
*appropriate* to phone my husband's employers and discuss him as though he was a 7 year old. So we are officially "In Hiding" for the rest of our lives because she just doesn't "get it".

I mean, this is a 58 year old engineer she's embarrassing half to death in his workplace.

So.... I'll try to add two locations & see how it goes.

BTW - love the pic, Violet! What a great view!

[johnfowles]

Well Not Allright
I have heard frem Bru that when she tried to show another picture of herself (her existing one is a very nice study of her droolling over a "Lightfoot Trail" signboard in some obscure Ontario town they call Orillia) she is told that London and Surrey sre both invalid names!! I tried Croydon and Shirley and got the same stoopid result.
I checked the site's FAQs and found a provision to request adding more places to their obviously woefully inadeqate database
I also note that forum founder Florian has yet to reveal himself but in today's UK Travel Telegraph email is a short article extolling the unique blend of the historic and the modern of his home city at:-
http://www.telegraph.otc-uk.com/holidays/wso1.asp?source=Dec05-Vienna
http://image.onlinetravel.com/content_images/common/wso/Vienna/Vienna_1.gif
John Fowles
Travel with me if you choose I promise to protect thee

[Sydney Steve]

Oh dear.
Mr Fowles yet again puts 2 & 2 together and comes up with 5.
Its not the names of the towns John ! Its the identity of the requester. Use a pseudonym. Try Sydney Steve ! This name engenders serious credibility & respect (and is nearly as acceptable as American Express around the world...)
John has overlooked the fact that most of the modern software will not recognise questions from anyone with an internet history of being of a certain sort (if you Corfiders catch my drift)[lol]...

This doesn't explain Bru's problems though..Must have been a glitch in her case...

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by Sydney Steve:
Oh dear.
Mr Fowles yet again puts 2 & 2 together and comes up with 5.

John has overlooked the fact that most of the modern software will not recognise questions from anyone with an internet history of being of a certain sort (if you Corfiders catch my drift)[lol]...That's rich coming from somebody sitting and no doubt straining on the can in the anti-podes
http://64.34.180.159/pics4/i/20051210/f/b/9/fb93bf6ab8ec21be5843091e5c44204f0
deep in the doo doo in his backyard
who is obviously full of it if you get my drift
John Fowles
obvious lyric quote:-
Hang on ye drifters now
You got so much to go and gamble on
Watch out for the shifting sand
Note young Stephen the spelling of the two words starting with an "s" and ending with "ing" that
I have used neither of witch/which describes whatever it is you are trying to do in that disgusting picture

[ December 23, 2005, 11:28: Message edited by: johnfowles ]

[Sydney Steve]

Mr Fowles, as we know is one of the few objects of his own vintage NOT to be displayed in a museum. BUT nobody would suggest he is not also tricky.
Corfid folk will be well aware that in the photo he has used digital trickery to discredit me .

The original photo before he got at it with a Fowlsian Furphy follows:

http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/217/malemodelgpicimagecontent5843b.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Sydney Steve

[Sheryl]

MY EYES!! MY EYES!!

[byKimberly]

I'm going to OZ!

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by byKimberly:
I'm going to OZ! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mindful that certain readers here might object to a continuing series of acrid exchanges being made in jest by that Sydney (j)erk and myself I have now deletede my latest rebuttal and reposted it on the small talk topic of the same title at:-
http://www.corfid.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=2&t=000738
John Fowles
Where love had been misplaced His chance to waste And if you saw him now
think of the time you waste

[SilverHeels]

am bringing this to the top to enable newcomers to add themselves to the map.

[BILLW]

one more time, c'mon everybody add yourself to the map.

Bill :)

[The Gypsy]

Im on the map. Must be more in the Uk ?

[Sheryl]

That IS one awesome picture!!

[SilverHeels]

Ron, what a great picture! Where and when was it taken?

[Shutup and Deal, I'm Losin']

I don't know how to get that darn website to work. I tried to add myself on there, but it's too complicated. I'll figure it out one day. :mad:

That picture was too big, just like our stomachs. :D (Just joking)

[ February 18, 2006, 18:08: Message edited by: James Suber ]

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by TheWatchman:
Why not just leave the link to the picture instead of messing up the size of this thread? Or resize it, upload it to the internet and show it hear. Very good advice Al.James if you try to display a picture (jpg) that is over about 800 pixels wide (check its properties Ron's great picture is 2076 pixels wide and almost 400,000 bytes)) it exceeds the standard width of this forum and makes it then necessary to scroll all postings to read all the clever stuff the punters have previously posted before you came long . To resize save it from where you found it then use any graphics program(me) that you might have or get the excellent freebie
<a href="http://www.xemico.com/photogadget/" target="_blank">
Photogadget</a>. the file (pgpro.exe) is only 1005KB and should take only a very few minutes to download on a dial-up.
Once you have a smaller file (which also then has the benefit of being quicker to load for dial-up readers) you have to find somewhere else on the internet to store it. It so happens that I have recently found a superb free website outfit that allows hotlinking and I am working on a fairly simple tutorial on how to use it. Oh do shut your face Stevo. You are always quick to criticise my efforts but I have yet to see you attempt anything other than being rude here!!

John Fowles

[ February 18, 2006, 15:06: Message edited by: johnfowles ]

[The Gypsy]

Hi All. The pic seems to have caused a little excitment. It was taken back of Massey Hall Sat 26 May before the concert. Gord was explaning and showing how a guy run off the sreet and into his dressing room in Rochester with a camera. Gord said he grabbed him as in pic,clicked then run out, and he hasent seen him since. Anyone know who it was?
Anyway my thanks goes to the stranger who took pic. his name is Mac from Massachusetts. I hadent relised at the time he had taken such a great pic.He was such a nice guy, because during the time of taking the pic and before the concert he went and got it developed and came looking for and found me in the Massey bar.
Should have let you guys see it sooner,

[charlene]

Maybe the post could be deleted with the large pic and after re-sizing it could be posted again?

I posted a few pics from Sarasota on the frappr page.

http://www.frappr.com/corfid

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by The Gypsy:
Anyway my thanks goes to the stranger who took pic. his name is Mac from Massachusetts. I hadent relised at the time he had taken such a great pic.He was such a nice guy, Amazing Ron
I met Mac in Boston last October having previously metDoctor Jack (http://www.longtailpublishing.com/jackpages/lightfoot.html) in Portland Maine
This picture is on the doctor's page and shows a group of fans at Massey in May 2005
http://www.longtailpublishing.com/jackgraphics/alley.jpg
Mac is in the middle with a moustache
and here is an even better picture from Mac's own Rose Garden MA site
http://www.rosegardenfolk.com/photos.html
http://www.rosegardenfolk.com/photos/gord.jpg
OK, so Gordon Lightfoot didn't perform at the Rose Garden.
But it didn't stop our volunteers Mac and Kevin from bringing
the Rose Garden to Gordon after a show in New London.
John Fowles
Now Ron hows about you reading my Newsgroup message addressed to another fan in your town (Kevin Andreoli)
at:-
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.music.lightfoot/browse_frm/thread/2563a4a66a7f1fdd/9d9f9f0c0bac5d6a#9d9f9f0c0bac5d6a
and making some sort of response about the great potential GL singalong in Gosport

[Borderstone]

Hey Bill! :) How come you didn't use my photo from the,"Borderstone At Last,Breaks Cover" thread? You could do a simple search and get the photo that way. ;)

I'm honored to be included here by the way,just so no one get the idea I'm whining. :D

[The Gypsy]

Yes John. Thats sure is Mac, Dr Jack and Kevin I think, plus partners. I took that pic at Massey with Macs camara. I have heard of Kevin Andreoli,and I will at some point get down to Gosport. Will have to get some singing lessons in first. Cant sing cant play, but hey just enjoy music.

[Cathy]

Originally posted by The Gypsy:
Yes John. Thats sure is Mac, Dr Jack and Kevin I think, plus partners. I took that pic at Massey with Macs camara. I have heard of Kevin Andreoli,and I will at some point get down to Gosport. Will have to get some singing lessons in first. Cant sing cant play, but hey just enjoy music. Kevin still posts every now and then on the newsgroup, alt.music.lightfoot.

[SilverHeels]

Ron, did you come to the Delta and join in the room parties?

[The Gypsy]

Bru. No Im afaid we never made it to the Delta. We had booked into the Grand on a short package deal, thats my wife and I. Only had four days and had a lot of sights to see, I know you had a great time after reading the posts here. Never made it back last year, but hope to go in November as in 99. I know it might sound stange or maybe not, but autum/winter in Toronto was magic.Lots of Christmas shoping etc. Ron

[charlene]

ohmigosh - "Winter in Toronto was magic"...said like a true tourist!
lol
just kidding - the city can be very pretty but those streets get brown and gritty and it's ugleeeeeee!
true about the great shopping tho!
tonight it's minus 18 celcius with the wind chill, warming up to ZERO on Wednesday...
see ya in November!

[The Gypsy]

Told you I was strange, or stange is even stranger. please excuse my spelling.

[SilverHeels]

Ron,
thought I might have sussed out another Brit lurking about the Delta ... ;)

[The Gypsy]

No bru it wasent me. What did the English monster say?

[ELizabeth]

Bill W...I cannot get my marker in in Northern Va. HELP!

[<Dickie Ticker>]

'corfid' not found

This is the message I get when trying to call up the corfid member map. Any suggestions?

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by &lt;Dickie Ticker&gt;:
'corfid' not found

This is the message I get when trying to call up the corfid member map. Any suggestions? Absolutely correct "tricky dickie"
clicking on the original link:-
http://www.frappr.com/corfid
now inexplicably as you disovered it shows that frappr have lost all the hard work we all put in creating the map.My only suggestion is that Al Watchman (a.k.a Member # 396) who has been mysteriously AWOL since his last message on March 4th took extreme umbrage after his "run in' with geoman Steve see
http://www.corfid.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=000814;p=1#0000 04
and deleted the map in retaliation, (some of us will recall that he previously deleted all his then current messages some years ago leaving many topics with gaping holes in the sequences)
I will try sending a Private Message to him and see if he knows anything (it was Al who started the map after all)
John Fowles
"What else do fans of Gordon Lightfoot listen to?"
from a most peculiar "blog" site at:-
http://gordon-lightfoot-2007.blogspot.com/
by a peculiar individual calling himself:-
"Antonio_Flores_2006"

[violet Blue]

The GRINCH! I say we start all over.

http://www.frappr.com/sitdownyoungstranger

tongue.gif Watchman

[The Gypsy]

Im back on map. Shame about the loss of Corfid map,is it retrievable?

[Cathy]

John, why don't you start a new Corfid map and we'll all add ourselves again. I don't have a clue how to do it.

[violet Blue]

I don't know if the original map is retrievable or not. Frappr would not let me choose the name corfid for the map claiming it was already in use. But that's standard practice. Most websites protect a name for anywhere from a few weeks to months after it's been deleted. But on the other hand there could be an on/off switch to these maps too and it may have been deliberately or inadvertantly turned off. I have no clue. It's all I could do to create one, never mind making sense of the ins and outs of the site.

[stationmaster]

I can't believe someone would actually do such a thing. That site was great. Whoever did it must have had some kind of security clearance. Any way to get it back? It would take months to replace all that stuff! :mad: :mad: :mad:

[geodeticman]

Hi guys the "frapper-mapper" is a great idea !

Am preparing a photo of my signed-by-Gord canoe paddle (per Sir John's suggestion) to attach to my map entry ( us odd and wordy mapgeeks call them nodes, pass-points, pug-points and other utterly fascinating cartographic terms to most end-users... not..).

If it is of interest to anyone ( raising shields, captain...) the satellite imagery-based process is the same as mapquest's newest on-line geoprocessor, and originated from USGS Terrabyte Project.( U.S. Geologocal Survey ).

if you all new how much interactive editing and cubic hull-warp polynnomial splines it used to take us in the mid-80's just to get the linear features (as in the mapquest version with center-of-oil road centerlines) to overlay correctly with the imagery, you would think that was the cretacous period.

This excellent application of the Terrabyte project is the same exact map engine less all the linear features as mapquest,and also is appearing on higher-end handheld GPS-receivers for gear-toting mountain-folk hacks like me.. :)

Well I digress. It obviously excites me to see spatial data e.g. maps and remotely-sensed imagery become so user-friendly a desktop product. It used to be the career-making or breaking pervue of GIS "power-users" waiting for one tile to process on a rather large mainframe.

I'm adding my 2 locations in Colorado if I can stay awake here in a minute, after scouting it out ahead. What a wonderful addition to corfid !

Thank you for adding this cork-popper exciting addition to corfid, from a loquacious old mapper in Colorado ! - Steve (GEO)

[geodeticman]

Watchman, and everyone, err.... sorry I did not read all the preceeding discussion of the deletion of the corfid map after, as John put it ... the "run-in" Watchman had with me.

I would rather have thought it the other way around (at first), but I sincerely feel I am the boob if the umbrage I took, followed by the umbrage Watchman took.... err.... well caused retraction of the first map. That explains why I could not get into it on first try and looked at others instead. Do I understand this sequence of events correctly ? Boy do I feel stupid...

I sure feel silly that two nice GL fans could take issue with one another over such a little thing, I feel bad about this and take responsibility. Watchman - (Al ?) - your inclusion of this interactive map thread was certainly a great idea and I applaud you.

I was not aware of it or its subsequent withdrawal until now, AFTER reading my previous enthusiastic map-guy waxings posted just before this.

Watchman (Al) - please accept my apologies for not graciously accepting your straightforward and well-meant constructive critique on my addmitedly hard-to-read starting stuff. You were right ! Everyone - don't worry I am not starting the "umbrage" tack again.

Rather, I humbly apologize to Watchman AND the group if my unwarranted lashback caused such a loss at first (or when ?) of this wonderful addition to corfid by Watchman.

Watchman, please accept my apologies and a tip-o-the-hat on the link to this interactive geo-coded satellite mapping engine. I am very sorry to over-react, as I look back and read. You are to be commended.

Al please do not think I am being a sycophant or am being disingenuous when I retract and about-face on former ramblings of mine that hit a bit too hard on my part. Keep on with the cool work and posts ! To Gordon !

Sincerely, Steve Dunbar DA mapster... :)

[ March 27, 2006, 08:17: Message edited by: geodeticman ]

[SilverHeels]

Steve,
I do not believe it was *your* apology that was needed.

[charlene]

well said Bru...well said...

we can get the map up and running again...
and I would get it up and running if I knew how!
lol
HELP!!!

[Cathy]

I think we'll just have to start a new one. It appears SOMEONE deleted the old one.

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by Cathy:
John, why don't you start a new Corfid map and we'll all add ourselves again. I don't have a clue how to do it. Originally posted by charlene:
well said Bru...well said...

we can get the map up and running again...
and I would get it up and running if I knew how!
lol
HELP!!! Originally posted by Cathy:
I think we'll just have to start a new one. It appears SOMEONE deleted the old one. OK OK I could have sworn that Violet had already started a new frappr group
let's see:-
yesss it is at:-
http://www.frappr.com/sitdownyoungstranger/
I have now reentered my two locations:-
my current New Jersey one with the picture of me in Sherborn MA
and one showing me in front of my house in my home town of Sherborne (note how Americans have this odd habit of either mis-spelling words or omitting letters....they also in Massachusetts mispelt Barnstaple as Barnstable)...Dorset England
I have now made a screenshot showing the two of us Brits (me and Ron from Waterlooville) who have so far joined up
http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/sherborne/england.jpg
JohnFowles
I also noticed that compared to how frappr was originally presented it looks like they have updated their format. In particular the "add yourself" entry form is quite different and the existing member's pix that previously were shown on the right in a "columnar" style are now shown under the map in a scrolling "slideshow" presentation.
there is also now under the "add yourself" area a section headed "markers" that lists the current members(4 so far)
Let's be having you!!!
My bet is that they must have temporarily taken the whole site down to upload the revised version then omitted to restore each group's existing content. If so it was nice of them to tell us!!

[SilverHeels]

Have tried to re-enter but it hasnt taken.
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!

[violet Blue]

Did you use the "add me" feature on the front page? It worked for me, I just added and deleted a ficticious person.

By the way there is a "hide group" function. That would make an existing group appear not to exist.

http://www.frappr.com/sitdownyoungstranger

[SilverHeels]

Violet,
yes, I used the 'add me' feature. I tried it twice. Firstly, as before, it failed to recognise my location so I tried again this time with 'London, England'. It accepted that but refused to accept my entry.

I shall try again.

[SilverHeels]

Success! It worked this time - I think!

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by SilverHeels:
Success! It worked this time - I think! Not a bad picture Bru
You could put the one of you on the Lightfoot Trail on the map too in your spiritual home of Orillia Ontario Canada!!
John Fowles
your red marker appears on the UK map OK but your picture for some reason does not appear in the scrolling slideshow. Perhaps you broke it??!!

[Sydney Steve]

Well lodging wasn't hard. Editing a typo seems much harder & I have given up.Illiterate is what I will have to be.

[SilverHeels]

John, posting one pic. took me long enough but I will try and post the Lightfoot Trail pic next. :)

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by Sydney Steve:
Well lodging wasn't hard. Editing a typo seems much harder & I have given up.Illiterate is what I will have to be. Quiete so I found the same Stevo but fortunately my picture does not show either of my not-so-smelly armpits!!
Master John Fowles

[charlene]

does this link work for you guys?

http://www.frappr.com/ ?a=showmap&gid=62138&landing=1

it's the corfid frappr map...i got an 'update' e-mail and the link.

http://www.frappr.com/corfid

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by charlene:
does this link work for you guys?

http://www.frappr.com/ ?a=showmap&gid=62138&landing=1

it's the corfid frappr map...i got an 'update' e-mail and the link.

http://www.frappr.com/corfid Not exactly Charlady
for one it was not a complete link
that would have been
http://www.frappr.com/ ?a=showmap&gid=62138&landing=1
No it just will not show as a complete hyperlink
which when I copied it and pasted it in complete it opened a generic frappr page but deleting the extraneous space (after the .com/ gives
http://www.frappr.com/?a=showmap&gid=62138&landing=1
Lo and behold it opens the original corfid group with the world map showing all 77 members and oodles of pix including a scrolling display of most of Mary's Florida shenanigans
Golly just as I was composing this I got my own "John Fowles's Frappr Update" email
saying in part:-
"... and more! Click below to see more new members:
http://www.frappr.com/sitdownyoungstranger" (http://www.frappr.com/sitdownyoungstranger)
but no mention of the original corfid group
so perhaps when I signed on at the corfid group I failed to provide my email addy (which I had done for the SDYS group)
I noticed that the old (corfid) map only has red pins for "people" whereas the new SDYS group that violet started has red pins for ladles and blue pins for jellyspoons!!
How odd!!
John Fowles
Of course unfortunately this means that once again we have to put up with the earlier disgusting picture of the Sydney hooligan:-
http://image2.frappr.com/pics4/i/20051210/f/b/9/fb93bf6ab8ec21be5843091e5c44204f0
Puke
I think that on balance I prefer the later almost equally disgusting "smelly armpit" picture!!!
http://image2.frappr.com/pix2/i/20060327/2/1/6/21607e1d7c1f3851e8b94cc853a3e8b20
Double Puke

[ March 28, 2006, 15:52: Message edited by: johnfowles ]

[johnfowles]

"stranger and stranger the further and further you go down"
is this Alice In Wonderland or what??
somebody is telling "porkies"***
compare these two screenshots:-
http://h1.ripway.com/corfid/johnfowles/frappr1.jpg
and
http://h1.ripway.com/corfid/johnfowles/frappr2.jpg
John Fowles
***("porkies" is the short version of "pork pies" which in the convoluted world of cockney rhyming slang equals "Lies")
Here endeth today's English language lesson Boys and Girls

[charlene]

hmmm. i just checked and that is all there is in the address bar.:

posting it here broke it up and made a space i guess....

http://www.frappr.com/a=showmap&gid=62138&landing=1

just checked and now it's not the corfid map!
lol
but when i click the link in the e-mail it opens to corfid map just fine with the address above in the addy bar....!
ack!

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by charlene:




just checked and now it's not the corfid map!
lol
ack! Yes Yes dear Charge d'affaires
but you over corrected the original hyperlink which was:-
http://www.frappr.com/ ?a=showmap&gid=62138&landing=1
I said that there seemed to be an "extraneous space (after the .com/)"
If you peek carefully at my second screenshot above you should spot that removing the said space produces:-
http://www.frappr.com/?a=showmap&gid=62138&landing=1 compared to your most recent attempt:-
http://www.frappr.com/a=showmap&gid=62138&landing=1
See you deleted the question mark as well!!!
John Fowles

To understand is my life and the question is why
try the great trivia quiz at:-
http://www.funtrivia.com/playquiz/quiz109788c93c28.html
I am ashamed to admit that I got one question wrong!!

[joveski]

damn i forgot my camera when i met him this year... should got a photo of both us hooligans!

steve, where were the photos taken??

[charlene]

i copied and pasted exactly as it was on my screen...added/deleted/spaced nothing.

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by charlene:
i copied and pasted exactly as it was on my screen...added/deleted/spaced nothing. Oh yus you did the evidence above clearly shows rhat you deleted both the extraneous space and the vital question mark. If you cannot see that you had better make an appointment with arch optician Sparky, IMNSHO
John Fowles
LOL

[Sydney Steve]

John,

What is the upshot of all this please ?
Type slowly so I can follow.
Do we now have 2 maps accessible? Did it turn out that we didn't need to restart a new one and that it was not in fact deleted in a moment of fury ?
What's the John Dory ?

PS Stop baiting the Queen or you will be back where you belong...
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/1533/johnstocks4en.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by Sydney Steve:
John,

What is the upshot of all this please ?
Type slowly so I can follow.
oh......Kay.

Do we now have 2 maps accessible?
Yes it appears so although the correct address for the original tells you to get lost and as Violet found trying to resurrect the group using plain "corfid" leads nowhere fast
http://h1.ripway.com/corfid/johnfowles/corfidx.jpg

Did it turn out that we didn't need to restart a new one and that it was not in fact deleted in a moment of fury ?
I guess so yus

What's the John Dory ?

PS Stop baiting the Queen or you will be back where you belong...
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/1533/johnstocks4en.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Your silly error that thumbnail link only opens the image shack site not the full sized picture. Do read the instructions properly dummo!!
Hey Stevo if you are so obviously adept at manipulating images and are that damn good you had better take part in one or other of the artwork topics.
For starters since you are such a Carefree guy can you concentrate on a "C/Highway" Picture Sleeve

John Fowles

[ March 28, 2006, 17:24: Message edited by: johnfowles ]

[brink-]

Originally posted by Sydney Steve:
John,

What is the upshot of all this please ?
Type slowly so I can follow.
Do we now have 2 maps accessible? Did it turn out that we didn't need to restart a new one and that it was not in fact deleted in a moment of fury ?
What's the John Dory ?

PS Stop baiting the Queen or you will be back where you belong...
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/1533/johnstocks4en.jpg (http://imageshack.us) OMG Steve! that is hilarious, way too funny! lol

[johnfowles]

Well Well I thought I would do a google image search to try to find the original picture Steve used in his travesty of justice and guess what?
I found a real picture of him properly restrained
http://www.natives.co.uk/news/2005/05/latania/stocks.jpg
I also found an amusing Castaway parody featuring Forrest Gump's alter ego Tom Hanks
http://www.starland.com/sf-sc/sf03/images/dot%20com%20stocks.JPG

John Fowles

[Cathy]

Originally posted by stationmaster:
I can't believe someone would actually do such a thing. That site was great. Whoever did it must have had some kind of security clearance. Any way to get it back? It would take months to replace all that stuff! :mad: :mad: :mad: I'd say it's more of an INSECURITY clearance.

[<Anabolic Andy>]

Man Cathy, I've been reading some of your stuff and your pretty cocky. I don't think your all that but oh well.

[Cathy]

Good for you. And I don't think you're much of anything, either.

I just love it whan new people come in here and start making assumptions....
Or maybe he's not new. Maybe he's.... no... I won't say it. Too cocky.

[<Anabolic Andy>]

You are cocky, but that's fine. Just don't see why you are, but oh well.

[geodeticman]

John, I could not help but try to help in some way, seeins' how I am the MAPster. Simply a point of interest I hope for you. You seem to be a very detail oriented man, with, as you put it, a desire to understand. Banking on this keen interest, a bit of trivia. As you noted, regarding the mapping engine's database of annotation being mis-spelled:

Per John, as follows:
&lt;snip&gt;
I have now reentered my two locations:-
my current New Jersey one with the picture of me in Sherborn MA and one showing me in front of my house in my home town of Sherborne (note how Americans have this odd habit of either mis-spelling words or omitting letters....they also in Massachusetts mispelt Barnstaple as Barnstable)...Dorset &lt;snip&gt;

As I mentioned farther above, this mapping engine, essentially the same as mapquest's alternative program, hails from U.S.Geological Survey's Terramapper project. It was also partnered by an outsourced *bigggg* private software company as a general contractor of sorts.

As such, with multiple layers of farmed-out labor, it is subject to the limitations that have come close at times to paralyzing USGS' work in cartographic data entry such as the annotation in question.

in aproximately 1999, USGS weathered what was called "Black Monday", obvious to GL fans as a name applied to other events as well...

This was a day essentially of pink slips, firing, laying-off, early retirements, "re-purposing", and in sum total nearly 50% of their Cartographic professionals, paraprofessionals, and technicians were let go, flooding the industry with Government personnel.

This sad event was in response to legislation referred to as the Brook's Act that required that (among other things) 50% of mapping be outsourced to private industry, in keeping with the precept that the U.S. Government should not compete with the private sector, e.g. private Mapping Companies.

Point being, these private sector companies, austensibly could do the same work "faster and cheaper" and profit to the benefit of the constituency the Government in principle serves.

However, as farming out so often does, it actually hamperes the output quality of what is a painstakingly detailed and normally thoroughly researched part of the work, despite it not falling into the pervue of professional Cartographers in larger projects like this.

Unfortunately, having been involved in many contracts myself to outsource mapping services to private companies, one of the means by which they can do it cheaper (and often worse) is by (you guessed it) farming-out the labor intensive non-professional components (such as annotation - street names , town names, etc....) and other quickly-trained data-entry map database elements.

The foreign outsourced companies in particular, employing extremely cheap labor in "second (and third) world" companies, adds a huge amount of annotation in databases ....such as these. The emphasis, in order to make contractual time obligations, is of course speed. And of course speed in detail-oriented work breeds errors and omissions such as you are seeing.

I have seen outsourced contracts in satellite mapping projects post-processing work where the private vendor bidding actually would offer two prices. One would be be made in the "good-ole U.S.A.), and the other, for aproximately 40PERCENT LESS was to openly send the labor-intensive work to their "foreign subsidiary" (read:sweatshop) often in Malaysia et al .

It seemed of at least mild interest to point this out as things have gotten rolling again in what sounds like the first corfid map still existing, to my relief as I worried previously that my "run-in" with Watchman may have spurred a suspected retraction of the first map. I now understand this is not true.

This Terramapper project is also widely spoken of on the internet as being the brainchild and effort of one of the "giants" in the software business. Such company's name will not be mentioned here, as I understand Bill G(oops) has an army of lawyers eating company authorized junk food and looking with NSA tenacity for any cheap defamation of the project (j/k Bill).

It, in fact, despite errors and omissions, is an incredible piece of work placed free of use into the public domain, as you all noted with glee in the novelty of the product.

Rather than being able (yet) to make a salient contribution to the problem you guys worked through, I thought my only area of input could be thoroughly little-known minutia pertaining to the annotation that is contained in this mapping engine, and at least save some face as a mapper myself ;)

Does this also mean, if the first corfid map *is* still intact, that I do not need to grovel in apology to its progenitor ? (j/k Watchman... err... just an observation :) ) All in good fun.

Since of course all people think idle shop-talk specific to their field is utterly fascinating to the world, and represents over 75% of known information in the whole world as well... I did hope this little fact would help alleviate some of the frustration encountered when annotation was missing or wrong.

Just occurred to me this info would not do a bit of good. In true government tradition, or at least historic teutonic form as Trevanian would say (any British folk know this author?) I will therefor proceed unsullied by the facts, and make an error better by making it bigger. hehe - Steve all in fun.

[Auburn Annie]

I'm added.

[SilverHeels]

Just wanted to say the original Corfid map still works for me.
Lots of interesting pix there. :)

[charlene]

works for me too Bru - at the link i posted - regardless of how it shows up on this site when i copy and paste it directly from my addy bar...

Hey Andy - did your mother not teach you to say nothing if you don't have anything nice to say?
If that's your opinion that's fine...keep it to yourself please. I for one (and one of many) have a different opinion but regardless of that fact....it would be nice if you could refrain from posting such negativity and hostility..especially for no apparent reason.
just a thought.
thanks.
Char

[stationmaster]

Found the map! Found the map! Found the map!

[<Blackberry John>]

I'm on the map! All "lone" in Texas.
http://www.frappr.com/corfid

[ELizabeth]

Bill W,
Yesterday's Washington Post fearured the summer schedule for Wolf Trap? Are you and Lizanne interested in going? If so I will get on ordering tickets. I have forgotten the exact date but the concert is sometime in mid-August.

[changes]

Originally posted by &lt;Anabolic Andy&gt;:
Man Cathy, I've been reading some of your stuff and your pretty cocky. I don't think your all that but oh well. :eek: Dude, you don't know the half of it!!! :eek: Take this advice and trust me.
After what i've had done to me and having found out why... i'd run screaming from this place and never look back!!!! :eek:

[changes]

Originally posted by Cathy:
Good for you. And I don't think you're much of anything, either.

I just love it whan new people come in here and start making assumptions....
Or maybe he's not new. Maybe he's.... no... I won't say it. Too cocky. Man, this is funny!!

Quixote / Jessi i'd watch my back.. please be careful.. this site should have a warning on it when you sign up!!

"BEWARE 2-FACED BACKSTABBERS! AND GETTING YOUR HEAD RIPPED OFF OR GETTING TORN A NEW ONE ON A FREQUENT AND REGULAR BASIS!"

The so-called moderator on site is an even bigger joke!!
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[ April 14, 2006, 09:00: Message edited by: changes ]

[changes]

Why do you keep trying to bury my postings???
I haven't seen the message board this busy in like FOREVER!!

Did ya think i was going to go sit in the corner and cry "OOHHH they don't like me anymore?? Wah Wah Wah"???

[Sydney Steve]

Changes , personal abuse of any kind is normally a no no on a message board. It would not surprise anyone that your posts are being deleted if they cross that line.

It may be time for you to take some of your own advice and head to another area in cyberspace where you feel more appreciated. Without fully understanding all the issues involved , I confess I initially felt elements of sympathy for you, but your drama queenesque hysterical rants and tirades which would appear to be more in keeping with excerpts from a B grade soap opera have brought some "changes" in my attitude.

For someone who was professing a christian ethic only recently a remarkable set of "changes" has come over you and they do you no credit.

I suggest you go and take a couple of the coloured pills the nice Doctor prescribed for you,listen to some soothing music and please do not kick the cat. There's a good little changes - this site does not require more than one of the delusional variety. I already occupy that niche.
Unfortunately there is no emoticon which adequately describes my view of your rants. This is probably because they would cross over into your sphere of innappropriate rudeness. Also they all depict the head rather than what I would rather choose ,which is that of someones rear end. :D

[changes]

what's wrong Steve can't a person have a little fun! if you want to bring up personal abuse.. hmm let's see.. if i had a nickel for every lie that's been told about me and every name i've been called in all the PM's and e-mails behind my back. i'd be rich!

[Cathy]

Originally posted by Sydney Steve:

[snip]
Unfortunately there is no emoticon which adequately describes my view of your rants. This is probably because they would cross over into your sphere of innappropriate rudeness. Also they all depict the head rather than what I would rather choose ,which is that of someones rear end. :D I there an emoticon for giving someone the finger?

[changes]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: