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TimmyB

11-30-2004, 03:07 PM

Hey Gordon Lightfoot Discussion Forums,

Please allow me to introduce myself... My name is Tim and I'm thirty years old, I work in Oakville and live in Hamilton, Ontario.

I've loved Gordon Lightfoot ever since I was a young boy. I've seen Lightfoot live three times on Saturday May 8, 1998 at Massey Hall, on Saturday November 13, 1999 at Massey Hall and at his first full gig back since his illness on Sunday November 28, 2004 at Hamilton Place.

I've seen a couple of artists cover Lightfoot's material live including The Tragically Hip at Another Roadside Attraction perform "Summer Side of Life" in 1995 and Bob Dylan perform "I'm Not Supposed to Care" in 1998.

I won't get too much into the many artists that I listen to as I'm not writing a book. I will say that Neil Young and Bob Dylan are my two favorite artists. I've seen Young 33 times and Dylan 22 times.

I look forward to interesting discussions with like minded people who love Gordon Lightfoot at this forum.

Take it easy, Tim

PS At the May 8, 1998 concert I couldn't figure out one of the songs that was performed that night, if anyone knows the song please let me know here.

Here's the setlist including the song I couldn't recognize.

Set I: 1. 14 Karat Gold
2. I'll Prove My Love
3. In My Fashion'
4. The Watchman's Gone
5. Sundown
6. On Susan's Floor
7. Don Quixote
8. Drifters
9. Ode to Big Blue
10. Ringneck Loon
11. Boathouse
12. The House You Live In
13. Carefree Highway
14. I Used to be a Country Singer
15. The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald
Set II: 16. Waiting for You
17. Fading Away
18. Sit Down Young Stranger
19. Fine As Fine Can Be
20. Rainy Day People
21. Uncle Toad Said
22. ??? lyric- Feel Was Gone ???
23. A Painter Passing Through
24. Beautiful
25. Song for a Winter's Night
26. Early Morning Rain
27. Baby Step Back
28. Canadian Railroad Trilogy
Encore 1: 29. Blackberry Wine
Encore 2: 30. Old Dan's Records

Again please if anyone knows the song that was performed let me know. Thanks.

joveski

11-30-2004, 03:24 PM

welcome along... and good to see you on dylanpool as well (this is froggie!)

the 8th may 98 setlist is listed as:

14 Karat Gold
I'll Prove My Love
In My Fashion
The Watchman's Gone
Sundown
Don Quixote
On Susan's Floor
Ode To Big Blue
Drifters
Ringneck Loon
Boathouse
Carefree Highway
The House You Live In
I Used To Be A Country Singer
The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald
Waiting For You
Fading Away
Sit Down Young Stranger
Fine As Fine Can Be
Rainy Day People
Cherokee Bend
If You Could Read My Mind
A Painter Passing Through
Beautiful
Song For A Winter's Night
Early Morning Rain
Baby Step Back
Canadian Railroad Trilogy
Blackberry Wine
Restless

swish

11-30-2004, 03:27 PM

If You Could Read My Mind

TimmyB

11-30-2004, 03:56 PM

Thanks I don't know why I didn't have that written down properly in 1998 as I obviously know "If You Could Read My Mind." It must have been dark where I wrote on my notepad.

Also that above set isn't completely accurate as Lightfoot did close the show on May 8, 1998 with "Old Dan's Records" not "Restless." And he did do "Uncle Toad Said" not "Cherokee Bend."

SilverHeels

11-30-2004, 05:17 PM

Hi Tim, you are most welcome.
Give us your reaction to Gord's return to the stage.

ELizabeth

11-30-2004, 05:50 PM

Welcome Tim. I'm new here myself. I live in suburban Washington D.C. and have been a GL fan since ... the late sixties. I guess that gives away something else about me. I have seen GL twice in concert in the D.C. area .. once he was unbelievable just too good to be true. Nice to meet you, Tim.

Sheryl Klein

11-30-2004, 08:32 PM

Welcome, Tim. You are in good company. All wonderful Lightfoot fans in here!!

Sheryl

Borderstone

11-30-2004, 09:35 PM

Welcome aboard Timmy! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif
Julie your cruise director will give you the lowdown about how to act at the Captain's Table tonight! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/wink.gif
Also,Gopher will show you to your room and give you pointers about how to become a congressman and work on a boat at the same time! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
Seriously though,welcome. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif The more the merrier! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/cool.gif

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"A knight of the road,going back to a place where he might get warm." ;) - Borderstone

johnfowles

12-01-2004, 11:51 AM

quote:Originally posted by TimmyB:
Also that above set isn't completely accurate as Lightfoot did close the show on May 8, 1998 with "Old Dan's Records" not "Restless." And he did do "Uncle Toad Said" not "Cherokee Bend."
Welcome Timmy
In due course you will no doubt discover the many wonderful Lightfoot resources available to us "Net People" which includes
the other main "information' site run by pioneer Newsgroup** man Wayne Francis up there in PEI at:- http://www/lightfoot.ca
Wayne has an extensive listing of tour dates many with setlists including the one for your May 8th concert at:-
http://www.lightfoot.ca/980508.htm

I suspect that (Mende) Joveski who you might not yet know is one of three Melbourne residents who post from down under either
here or on the Newsgroup**.
Mende unless I am very mistaken most likely copied that set list from Wayne's site and I note that Wayne's listing includes
neither of the two encores you mentioned (although generaly speaking Wayne gets his facts right!!!) (and generally Gord always
does at least one encore... at one time he always prefaced it/them by saying "thank you we were coming back anyway" which always
cracked me up)
**
The Newsgroup alt.music.lightfoot is now viewable via the latest (beta) version of Google groups at (my notlong link):- http://newsgroup2.notlong.com
this is a link to the beta version as recently discovered by Cathy and I am pleased to say after posting a reply now says that your posting should be available "momentarily" and a test one showed up in a few minutes rather than the "3 to 9 hours" Google quotes for their original version for which my shorter URL link is:-
http://newsgroup.shorturl.com

Of course you can also if you take the trouble to set up Outlook Express use that for immediate viewing of your postings,or if you are with AOL use whatever access method they offer.
Finally Tim pity you had not been visiting here last week and seen about the most successful pre-concert gathering at Walts on Sunday. Never mind see you no doubt at Massey next year. Watch this space!!

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My Gordon Lightfoot webring
starts at
http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/lightfoot

joveski

12-01-2004, 02:16 PM

yep, i pasted it from www.lightfoot.ca (http://www.lightfoot.ca)

our same TimmyB?

12-02-2004, 04:27 AM

"has lost it as a performer"???????
http://discussions.bluerodeo.com/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=6706013552&f=3656025682&m=9151081601&r=9151081601#9151081601

BILLW

12-02-2004, 06:31 AM

quote:Originally posted by our same TimmyB?:
"has lost it as a performer"???????
http://discussions.bluerodeo.com/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=6706013552&f =3656025682&m=9151081601&r=9151081601#9151081601 (http://discussions.bluerodeo.com/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=6706013552&f=3656025682&m=9151081601&r=9151081601#9151081601)

?????????

12-02-2004, 08:50 AM

lol, i guess his review is the rebuttle to char's and should be called "NOT Gettin' It Done in Hamilton", eh?

"I'm going to pass Lightfoot by when he comes around again to Massey Hall or anywhere else for that matter. If he's opening for Bob Dylan or someone else that I don't miss I'll be happy to see him again or if he's apart of a folk festival that I happen to be at. But otherwise I will not be spending my money to have Lightfoot's name on a ticket.

I will continue to love Lightfoot's music, I just think he has lost it as a live performer."

now in partial agreement with TB, I will say that every one of us wants a GL concert to go forever (kinda like Dylan's quote about a GL song http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif) so I understand his disappointment

I only wish Gord would have bypassed the Wreck (even though it was stellar) and that would leave time for him to slide in both Bitter Green and On the High Seas on the Sunday night instead...my missing OTHS is like that fiesty Brit missing Christian Island...so yeah Bru, the Captain and I also had a mournful date after seeing Monday's setlist the other evening (once my brain recovered from Sunday's celebratory pints http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif)

charlene

12-02-2004, 09:10 AM

TimmyB needs to understand that these were his FIRST shows back since he was ill and he said in his Hamilton radio interview they would be an hour and ten minutes long. I am sure the sets at his concerts in the spring will be the usual length with an intermission of 20 minutes giving us 28 songs or more. I found the sound to be perfect-he's not Aerosmith! Every note and word was crystal clear and the odd time his voice caught I found it gave a "live" poignancy to the lyrics-especially in Harmony and Clouds of Loneliness. The depth and resonance in his voice was something not heard in such quantity as it was in Hamilton for a long time. While he passes at any other show there will be someone more than glad to get his ticket.
Jim Cuddy was there - he looked gorgeous as always. I wonder what he'll be doing and how he'll sound when he's 66???
Char
I still sing "on the t.v." in my head....

[This message has been edited by charlene (edited December 02, 2004).]

BILLW

12-02-2004, 09:35 AM

quote:Originally posted by charlene:
TimmyB needs to understand that these were his FIRST shows back since he was ill and he said in his Hamilton radio interview they would be an hour and ten minutes long. I am sure the sets at his concerts in the spring will be the usual length with an intermission of 20 minutes giving us 28 songs or more. I found the sound to be perfect-he's not Aerosmith! Every note and word was crystal clear and the odd time his voice caught I found it gave a "live" poignancy to the lyrics-especially in Harmony and Clouds of Loneliness. The depth and resonance in his voice was something not heard in such quantity as it was in Hamilton for a long time. While he passes at any other show there will be someone more than glad to get his ticket.
Jim Cuddy was there - he looked gorgeous as always. I wonder what he'll be doing and how he'll sound when he's 66???
Char
I still sing "on the t.v." in my head....

[This message has been edited by charlene (edited December 02, 2004).]

Well said Char, I'll buy that ticket !

Bill http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

johnfowles

12-02-2004, 10:30 AM

Earlier in this topic I was mislead into welcoming TimmyB to this forum
but having found and read his review of Sunday's performance I realy feel like taking it back
I realise that I am not alone in anticipating getting pleasure from a Lightfoot rendition of a telephone directory but well!!!
The URL link that TimmyB provided opened up an unhelpful page of gibberish but by simply reentering

http://discussions.bluerodeo.com
I somehow succeeded in finding the relevant posting by Timmy B on the blue rodeo UBB discussion board
and immediately found a distressing posting by "our" (not really "our") Same Timmy B at:-
http://discussions.bluerodeo.com/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=6706013552&f =3656025682&m=9151081601&r=9151081601#9151081601 (http://discussions.bluerodeo.com/eve/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=6706013552&f=3656025682&m=9151081601&r=9151081601#9151081601)

although what I did read there was definitely gibberish
as posted allegedly by one Timmy B a resident of the fair city of Hamilton
Anyway Timmy B whoever you are or think you are
whilst everybody is entitled to their own opinion... BUT
yours is in view of many other approving reviews
misguided and misleading to anybody who did not have the good fortune to experience the occasion first-hand
in reflection of concerts in 1998 and 1999 you said:-
"the crowds were dead quiet. Also the volume of music on stage was far too quiet as well"
neither comment is true of the three 1999 concerts I attended at Massey
you continued regarding Sunday's concert:
"Nothing has changed and it has only gotten worse."
Not true again there was quite a bit of audience noise even if the average age was rather more mature than you might possibly be and the sound was largely nigh on perfect (to my old ears anyway)
"But if he can't make a ninety minute show (I feel it is the unwritten rule that a headliner must at least hit), he shouldn't
be performing headlining concerts yet"
"I just think he has lost it as a live performer."
Now hang on a bloody minute
As Char said "These were his FIRST shows back since he was ill"(in 2002 not 2001)
and he had to start somewhere and the plan to have the Good Brothers as a support act gave Gord the opportunity to get his
confidence back with a shorter show and reassure himself that that he could now do ANY concert let alone his customary marathon two hour standard stints.On that basis the 72 minute shows were just about right IMHO , and whilst I agree with Jimmy that I'd have preferred to hear other songs in place of TWOTEF on both nights it was obviously a challenge as he obviously wanted to be assured that he now had regained the stamina to sing
one or other of his extended songs. I would say quite unequivocally that all in all it was a most realistic demonstration of his ability to resume his lifelong vocation for entertaining those who truly appreciate him
so there! Put that in your
http://www.fishbot.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/nohands/nohands.pipe.jpg
and smoke it
because Gordon can definitely still smoke it
John Fowles

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My Gordon Lightfoot webring
starts at
http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/lightfoot

[This message has been edited by johnfowles (edited December 02, 2004).]

brink

12-02-2004, 09:19 PM

Right on John!!!! Let him have it, again, suckered in by a non fan. A lot of the bands that I listened to in my life are back out and touring they certainly don't sound the same. I'm sure Timmy doesn't sound the same now as he did before he hit puberty (last week).

Sheryl Klein

12-02-2004, 09:57 PM

Gordon Lightfoot is the BEST, the SEXIEST, the most TALENTED singer/songwriter!! And at 66, he's DAMN GOOD!! He's HOT!! So there!!

Like John Said!!

And, did I mention, that if Gordon stood up on stage and merely recited the ALPHABET, I'd pay BIG BUCKS to be there!!

[This message has been edited by Sheryl Klein (edited December 05, 2004).]

TheWatchman

12-02-2004, 11:19 PM

I wonder why little Timmy didn't post his true feelings about the concert as he did on the other forum...A Kenny Roger's song that I haven't heard in years keeps popping into my mind (Coward Of The County).

Eventhough Gord's voice is not what it used to be when HE WAS 30, it's still damn good and when one hears that voice, they know exactly who it is.

I've seen Gord about 12 times or so since 1993 and each time I saw him, the concerts could not have been better. The only let-down was when the concert was over. Seeing Gord live is waaaaaaay better then listening to his CD's.

LSH

12-03-2004, 12:05 AM

Agreed, live is much better than the CDs. It's incredible to see Lightfoot live, enjoying the music and the crowd.
I guess we won't be hearing much more from TimmyB now that he's been "outed".

SilverHeels

12-03-2004, 03:53 PM

quote:Originally posted by LSH:
Agreed, live is much better than the CDs. It's incredible to see Lightfoot live, enjoying the music and the crowd.
I guess we won't be hearing much more from TimmyB now that he's been "outed".

Like the rest of you, I made the error welcoming TimmyB to this forum. I have no desire to see him back again.
If anyone knows where/when Gordon Lightfoot will be performing the Telephone Directory, please book me a ticket.

The Intended

12-03-2004, 05:01 PM

I love GL's music and have enjoyed his concerts tremendously. If and when he comes to my area, I will not miss the concert. It's fair to say he is my all-time favorite performer.

That being said, it disappoints me to see how those who frequent this Board treat anyone who falls short of literally worshipping the ground Gord walks on. Gordon Lightfoot himself would be disturbed to see such blind devotion... Of course he values the support of his fans. But I think any performer would be frightened by this kind of rabid loyalty. As a fellow fan, I certainly am.

Of course, there are the pranksters and losers who post messages designed to draw fire. But this post from "TimmyB" was inoffensive. He posted an honest review elsewhere and probably didn't post the same here because he didn't want to offend you all. Whether or not you and I agree with the opinions he expressed, he didn't deserve this kind of response from other GL fans.

When visitors to the Board can't feel comfortable expressing anything short of glowing praise for GL's every move, then our discussions become meaningless. Ignore the pranksters (that DMD3 kid was annoying). But try not to lynch those who just want to talk about Gordon Lightfoot and his art. Even if they're saying "I don't like it", at least that means people are paying attention to GL and his work is still relevant.

I, for one, hope Gord can continue performing for many years to come. He obviously loves it, and as a musician and GL fan myself, I can appreciate what he puts into each performance.

I have seen this kind of exchange on the message board before - someone says "Gord doesn't sound as good as he used to" and dozens of others descend upon it like angry bees. Why do you feel that you have to defend GL so vehemently? Doesn't his work speak for itself? You're not doing GL any favors by trying to stifle the critics, because they are buying his CDs and going to his concerts just like we are. Give them some rope, and they'll either pull themselves up or strangle themselves.

When I registered to post here last year, I had hoped to talk with others who genuinely appreciated and understood GL's work, past and present. Instead, what I've seen from a lot of folks here (not all, of course) is behavior more appropriate for screaming teeny-boppers and their cliques. That's a little over the top for me, and I'm guessing it would be a bit much for Gord too.

Many thanks to those here who have been kind, courteous and supportive. To the rest of you... Get help.

The Intended

TheWatchman

12-03-2004, 05:25 PM

The Intended,

I understand what your saying but at the same time, I can see why most here were upset with his comments on the other board. I was more upset with what he posted here because he didn't write what he really meant, like he did on the other forum. Was he trying to bait us into an arguement? I don't know, but probably that was the case. Doesn't matter.

Corfid is a Lightfoot fan site. This is not the place to critisize Gord, and little Timmy was sure to do so before too long. Maybe you're missing something here? I don't know but I sure can see why Timmy went the way of the doe-doe bird.

These were Gord's first concerts since we almost lost him and we're a little protective of him. It's that simple. We value his music and this is a very exciting time for us because it looks like Gord will be back in full swing. At one point, we were unsure if he would even make it through that ordeal, much less get back up on stage.

I really don't think anybody here worships Lightfoot or the ground he walks on. We just love his music and support him. Just because you "stick up" for somebody hardly means that you worship them. Come on.

Actually, you're post is more likely to stir up trouble more so than what Timmy posted. What's you're point? Are you looking to upset people? Come down off that holier than thou horse of your's.

[This message has been edited by TheWatchman (edited December 03, 2004).]

bjb

12-03-2004, 05:39 PM

Hey Mr/Ms Intended, you do make valid points, that's for sure.

Sometimes it sounds like a person making a critical comment is talking about Mr. Lightfoot as a commodity, like "I won't go back to that store because I didn't get enough value for my money".

Most people here love him exactly as is, and enjoy what he is doing right now as well as what he has done in the past.

This is usually a pretty friendly place http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

PS I guess it all boils down to expectations -- some people feel that if it didn't match their expectations, that means it was no good.

[This message has been edited by bjb (edited December 03, 2004).]

joveski

12-03-2004, 06:43 PM

actually this guy has been posting that same review at other forums that i visit. i got sucked into welcoming him on both of them

He's what was posted it on a wilco board:
http://www.viachicago.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=8036

he also put on a dylan one but i cant find the link.

talbot10

12-03-2004, 07:04 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by bjb:
[B]Hey Mr/Ms Intended, you do make valid points, that's for sure.

Sometimes it sounds like a person making a critical comment is talking about Mr. Lightfoot as a commodity, like "I won't go back to that store because I didn't get enough value for my money".

Most people here love him exactly as is, and enjoy what he is doing right now as well as what he has done in the past.

Very nicely said Bonnie!

BillHall

LSH

12-03-2004, 07:15 PM

Intended, I agree with Bonnie and Watchman on this one. I certainly don't worship Gord or the ground he walks on. I think a little honesty from TimmyB may have gone over better. Yeah, he would've taken some flak, like Watchman said, people are protective. Too bad TimmyB didn't see the second show, he was more relaxed and much stronger. But it's never going to be a loud, hard rock type concert. He's an acoustic artist...I had no trouble hearing, either night.
I, for one, would have appreciated him coming right out saying what he really thought. I'm a huge fan, but I'm not rabid.

[This message has been edited by LSH (edited December 03, 2004).]

TheWatchman

12-03-2004, 07:45 PM

I did see him once where I thought the volume could have been a little louder but I'm sure my hearing is not what it should be due to all the loud music I listen to. When I listen to music, it has to be loud. I'm going to see Everclear tonight in San Diego and I'm sure the volume will be just right. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

Gord is all about putting on the best show he is capable of each time I've seen him. Mark Knopfler is the only other one that I know of that is equally as good on stage. Of course NOBODY ever performs flawless all the time but Gord come's as close as possible. Besides, I like live music because I like to hear all the mistakes, changes etc. Nothing beats seeing Gord live and his voice sounds very strong on stage.

12-03-2004, 07:56 PM

>>>That being said, it disappoints me to see how those who frequent this Board treat anyone who falls short of literally worshipping the ground Gord walks on

hmm, i hear ya but you're like TimmyB with that over-generalization, folks here don't mind some stimulating and honest difference of opinion, that's actually how i arrived here, full of constructive critisism of Gord-related decisions but they were stated with my cards on the table, without deceit (honest, as lsh put it)....i take offense to TimmyB saying the I (or we) are "like-minded" because that is not true at all

reading his entire post, he was already fed up with GL after his second concert in late 90's and only went to the show in Hamilton because it was 5 minutes around the corner...he apparently goes to about 50 shows a year, has seen Dylan and Young like 30+ times, etc, etc...whatever

i was wondering if any folks at one of our "sister" boards ie. the Blue Rodeo board (which i consider Canada's Band the same way I consider Gord Canada's Singer/Songwriter) had seen and reviewed the Gord gig and I just happened to stumble on the TimmyB post...i thought it was sad that he thought he couldn't post his feelings to an adoring, fun, often rediculous BUT mature group of folks over here...we'll never know how his HONEST post would have gone over, we'll never know...the comment that Gord should not be "headlining" made me laff out loud actually, it was so ignorant and i'll bet the Health Sciences folks would be happy to give back TimmyB's portion of the net proceeds if he felt ripped off at all during that special evening, he unfortuantely missed the spirit of the whole evening...i was never mad at Timmy, just disappointed and feel kinda bad for him, not like-minded at all with the majority that i've come to know and respect here, no siree...insulting, yes siree

ps) we're older TimmyB, yes and maybe silent cos we like to listen, but ya won't find folks who are younger at heart, and bigger hearted http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

brink

12-03-2004, 09:05 PM

quote:Originally posted by joveski:
actually this guy has been posting that same review at other forums that i visit. i got sucked into welcoming him on both of them

He's what was posted it on a wilco board:
http://www.viachicago.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=8036

he also put on a dylan one but i cant find the link.

It was word for word what he posted on the Blue Rodeo site, but I ventured on and read some of the other comments - they seemed to ignore the negative that Timmy wrote and was genuinely glad that Gord was back playing NO matter how long the set. I think that he was a bit surprised that the Chicago fans back Gord also.
Hey Timmy - so there!

BILLW

12-03-2004, 10:29 PM

Round trip from Baltimore : $350.00
Two nights @ The Hamilton Sheraton: $275.00
Cabfare from Toronto: $69.00

Gordon Lightfoot back on stage: PRICELESS !

I was screaming and jumping up and down, yes I needed help. Lightfoot hit the stage - that was all the help I needed. But no rabies dude, that's harsh eh?

Bill http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

Sheryl Klein

12-03-2004, 11:46 PM

I think I'm the screaming teenybopper he's referring to. I'm 46, I admit it, but, I'm 14 at heart. Got a problem with that? As far as I'm concerned, I'll never "grow old." I get enthusiastic when I talk about something/someone I love/admire. What's so bad about that?? Overlooking minor things in comparison to the good that is there? Priceless!!! Sure, I got upset when I read his review. What -- he was expecting AC/DC on stage? Screaming fans, guitar smashing, whatever?? I've loved Gord and his music since I was 14. Because I went off on a different musical tangent years later and didn't hear any of his music after my late teens, I consider that MY loss. And I'm making up for lost time. I'm EXCITED to listen to Gord's music. I FEEL when he sings. I LIVED a lot of the things he sang about. I REMEMBER my pain, but, I CHERISH the sweeter memories. And this is why I love Gordon Lightfoot. So... Timmy won't bother to see him the next time he rolls around for a concert? Let's just say, as GL is 66 now, I hope he's around and doing concerts when he's 86!!! And, Bru, I'll go with ya and buy a ticket to see him read the Telephone Directory!!!

[This message has been edited by Sheryl Klein (edited December 03, 2004).]

TheWatchman

12-04-2004, 03:48 AM

quote:Originally posted by Sheryl Klein:
What -- he was expecting AC/DC on stage?

http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gifYou're right, he probably was. I was upfront 1' from the stage at Everclear tonight and could have been turned up a notch or two. Maybe I need to get my hearing checked...

12-04-2004, 07:41 AM

lol, great post, BW...i'd love to see that commercial http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

crap, i better get out more, i dunno even know who Everclear are? lol, hey, i will say i was disappointed with the mix and volume level at times during the Sunday GL gig and i don't think i will get attacked for that...i'm really showing more disappointment in the sound guys though than in Gord for that, but hey, he's umtimately responsible, so come on GL, get your 'act' together! , lol

yeah, i don't blare my speakers when i put on Gord but i do like a good mix and to have to volume to a level that makes me feel like i'm up on stage amongst the band, hearing whatever they are hearing on their monitors...i'll bet Gord doesn't stand for anything less than GREAT monitor mix and levels...and he'd want the same for his paying (worshipping, rabid, etc, lol) fans...it's odd that the mix and levels were so great for the Goods (imo) but took so long to get right for Gord's act...anyhow, that conceided doesn't make me think any less about the dishonest/mean-spirited nature of TimmyB's and Intended's posts, respectively

people don't need to apoligize or get help for showing to whatever levels of enthusium they choose, gord's music has gotten many thru the dips and dives, eh...no one here appears to be a threat to Gord's personal space, actually the ones who are most enthusiastic are probably the ones who would protect it the most...so let's discuss chord progressions or whatever, Dan if that's all that suits ya...or let's discuss whatever you came here to discuss, TimmyB (but maybe you're still busy copying and pasting your 'review'/anti-GL campaign on other boards), you won't suceed in dampening the spirit here though http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

ps) ok, never post before coffee, lol...i can't even make sense of my own grammar or typos...you know what i was trying to say, eh http://www.corfid.com/ubb/wink.gif

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12-04-2004, 08:24 AM

hey, you forgot one thing, BW:

Round trip from Baltimore : $350.00
Two nights @ The Hamilton Sheraton: $275.00
Cabfare from Toronto: $69.00
Don Ho shirt: (I'm estimating, say, $19.00?)
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BILLW

12-04-2004, 11:44 AM

quote:Originally posted by jj:
hey, you forgot one thing, BW:

Round trip from Baltimore : $350.00
Two nights @ The Hamilton Sheraton: $275.00
Cabfare from Toronto: $69.00
Don Ho shirt: (I'm estimating, say, $19.00?)
http://www.corfid.com/ubb/wink.gif

I prefer to call them my "Gordon Lightfoot shirts", he had a great one on Monday eh? Is that estimate CDN or US ?, LOL

Bill http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

SilverHeels

12-04-2004, 11:57 AM

'Gordon Lightfoot shirts' ????? Careful, Billw. You're not starting to 'worship' The Man, are you? http://www.corfid.com/ubb/wink.gif

TheWatchman

12-04-2004, 12:11 PM

BillW has always worshipped Gord ever since I knew him. He tends to go a little overboard sometimes but that's okay. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

12-04-2004, 12:21 PM

hey, and we've got bats swooping in the attic so i was off to get my rabies shots, regardless of my troublesome condition http://www.corfid.com/ubb/wink.gif

Rona

12-04-2004, 02:05 PM

Just one thought on the TimmyB issue. The fact is that he did buy a ticket and go to the concert, so he IS a fan, right? I didn't appreciate most of his comments either, but so much of the tone seems to be "he's not a fan if he says something negative." Personally, I can't think of a negative thing to say about Gord because he means so much to me, and has since I was 13 many years ago, but I can't see paying money and going to a concert if you don't like a person's music. Timmy's got to be a fan, just not of the live concert (which is all he really needed to say.)
I, on the other hand, can hardly wait until Vegas, and yes, the alphabet or phone book would be OK, although I'm hoping for Clouds of Loneliness.

Sheryl Klein

12-04-2004, 02:50 PM

nicely said, JJ. Thanks. (Do you *really* have bats in the attic? Hope you get 'em cleaned out soon, 'cause the "guano" smell is gonna drive you out!! Oh, and when I was the Natural History Museum with my kids last year, they told us about bats: they only live where the air and water are clean, so, hey, you're lucky!... I think!)

Janice

12-04-2004, 06:31 PM

quote:Originally posted by TheWatchman:
I'm going to see Everclear tonight in San Diego and I'm sure the volume will be just right. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

Hey Watchman, Welcome to my neighborhood! Hope you're enjoying your stay http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif Unfortunately your visit is during an unusual cold spell. I actually had to unpack my New Hampshire winter clothes for the first time in over three years to find a sweater the other day. Like JJ, I'm not familiar with Everclear - What venue did they play?

As for the Timmy B issue, I agree with a lot of you to varying degrees on different points. First, I feel that it's very clear from his post to the other sites as well as his post here, that he IS a fan. He mentioned song titles that he liked including his favorite from Harmony, so obviously he's buying the CDs. If he wasn't a fan he'd be spending those bucks elsewhere.

As Watchman said, it would have been nice if Timmy had been a little more forthcoming with his thoughts in his post here, but I can also respect The Intended's theory as to why he didn't and to some degree I don't blame him. His post did not contradict his posts to the other sites, it just left some things out. As Watchman also said, this is a Lightfoot fan site and not a place to criticize. If that's so, than Timmy did the right thing not to do so in this forum. These other sites he posted to are not Lightfoot fan sites and therefore he felt more comfortable expressing his negative thoughts on Lightfoot concerts. He obviously chose to respect the fact that some folks here are protective.

He doesn't enjoy Lightfoot concerts, so what! - as long as he continues buying the CDs and respecting the talent and enjoying the music (and he was never once disrespectful of either of those things), what's the harm in that? It just means that there will be more tickets available to Lightfoot's sold out concerts for those with the different expectations that bjb mentions.

There are different levels of fandom and we really should make an attempt to respect them all - from the giddy first timer hearing these wonderful songs with a fresh ear, to the seasoned fan who knows all the song titles and lyrics and what albums they're on and every ounce of trivia available to be known, to the in between fan who may have several albums and enjoy them tremendously, but may not have the same desire as others to go see a concert or know all the details of his personal life. The most important thing is that we all benefit from and appreciate Lightfoot's music, even if the benefits are different for each of us, just as the songs can mean something different to each of us. All levels of fans should be welcomed here and embraced and nurtured.

Who knows what we could accomplish if we did this. When I first found this site, I was more of a casual fan - I knew the name, I had a few albums and I liked the songs I was familiar with. Over the years, my level of fandom has changed due to reading other's thoughts. I may still be closer to the bottom level than the top level, but I have more CDs, I'm familiar with more songs and have found new favorites that I never would have known about, plus I have a much greater understanding and appreciation of his talents and contributions. Who knows, if we as a group had been the least bit open to Timmy's thoughts on his concert experiences, over time we may have been able to turn him around and change his mind - instead he's been "banned from the club."

(edits were to correct credit to the poster of comments mentioned - both times, same poster. Hopefully I got it correct this time http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif)

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TheWatchman

12-04-2004, 06:38 PM

Hi Janice,

Everclear played at the 4th & B downtown. Everclear peaked from 1997-2000 with songs such as AM Radio, I Will Buy You A New Life, Father Of Mine, Wonderful etc...

It has been cold! It even rained today. I am now in LA and just relaxing from a very busy week. I know at least one night it got down below freezing.

San Diego is a great city and I can certainly see why people love it so much. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

Janice

12-04-2004, 07:23 PM

quote:Originally posted by TheWatchman:
Hi Janice,

Everclear played at the 4th & B downtown. Everclear peaked from 1997-2000 with songs such as AM Radio, I Will Buy You A New Life, Father Of Mine, Wonderful etc...

It has been cold! It even rained today. I am now in LA and just relaxing from a very busy week. I know at least one night it got down below freezing.

San Diego is a great city and I can certainly see why people love it so much. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

I figured it had to be 4th & B or Dizzy's http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

Yeah I love San Diego. La Mesa is a suburb - as a matter of fact, my apartment is just two blocks from the city line - so I spend a lot of time downtown and in various other areas of town). One of the things that drew me to it was that San Diego is a huge city, yet still has that small town feel to it - If that makes any sense.

It's just too bad the weather couldn't have been it's usual for your visit - sunny, warm days; slightly cooler, but not cold nights and minimal to no rain. Then you really would have thought San Diego was great http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif