DYLAN IS PANTS

[Phillo]

I just do NOT believe this!!!

Dylan debuts in lingerie advert


Bob Dylan appears in his first television commercial
Music legend Bob Dylan has made his debut in a US TV commercial, promoting lingerie brand Victoria's Secrets.
The 62-year-old's face - sporting a pencil moustache and eyeliner - is intercut with shots of scantily-clad models cavorting in Venice.

Executives had already chosen his 1997 track Love Sick for the ad, and invited Dylan to make a cameo appearance.

Victoria's Secrets is famous for using supermodels in its adverts, including Claudia Schiffer and Heidi Klum.

The advert will air in the US over the coming weeks.

The music Hall of Fame veteran has yet to comment on why he decided to accept the offer to appear in the commercial.

I would be hesitant to say it's wonderful or awful, it's just strange

Dennis Elsas, New York DJ

"I never talked to him about why he decided to come to the party," said the lingerie company's chief creative officer Ed Razek.

"But he did. He's iconic, a living legend," he added.

It is the first time in a career spanning more than 40 years that Dylan has appeared in a TV advertisement.

But his song The Times They Are A-Changin' was used on a Bank of Montreal commercial in 1996, which prompted criticism that the singer had sold out.

Dylan's move has created plenty of activity amongst fans in chatrooms on the internet.

Admiration

One said that he admired the singer for appearing, despite initial reservations.

"I only hope that when I reach Bob Dylan's age someone asks me if I'd like to be flown to Venice to do a commercial with several supermodels," commented the fan.

New York-based disc jockey Dennis Elsas, who has played Dylan's music for decades, branded it as "weird".

"I would be hesitant to say it's wonderful or awful, it's just strange," he said.

..............

What next?

GL selling -

Double glazing - 10 Degrees and Getting Colder.

Listerine Mouth Wash - Never Too Close.

Any other ideas?

[Gaby]

I just do NOT believe this!!!

Dylan debuts in lingerie advert


Bob Dylan appears in his first television commercial
Music legend Bob Dylan has made his debut in a US TV commercial, promoting lingerie brand Victoria's Secrets.
The 62-year-old's face - sporting a pencil moustache and eyeliner - is intercut with shots of scantily-clad models cavorting in Venice.

Executives had already chosen his 1997 track Love Sick for the ad, and invited Dylan to make a cameo appearance.

Victoria's Secrets is famous for using supermodels in its adverts, including Claudia Schiffer and Heidi Klum.

The advert will air in the US over the coming weeks.

The music Hall of Fame veteran has yet to comment on why he decided to accept the offer to appear in the commercial.

I would be hesitant to say it's wonderful or awful, it's just strange

Dennis Elsas, New York DJ

"I never talked to him about why he decided to come to the party," said the lingerie company's chief creative officer Ed Razek.

"But he did. He's iconic, a living legend," he added.

It is the first time in a career spanning more than 40 years that Dylan has appeared in a TV advertisement.

But his song The Times They Are A-Changin' was used on a Bank of Montreal commercial in 1996, which prompted criticism that the singer had sold out.

Dylan's move has created plenty of activity amongst fans in chatrooms on the internet.

Admiration

One said that he admired the singer for appearing, despite initial reservations.

"I only hope that when I reach Bob Dylan's age someone asks me if I'd like to be flown to Venice to do a commercial with several supermodels," commented the fan.

New York-based disc jockey Dennis Elsas, who has played Dylan's music for decades, branded it as "weird".

"I would be hesitant to say it's wonderful or awful, it's just strange," he said.

..............

What next?

GL selling -

Double glazing - 10 Degrees and Getting Colder.

Listerine Mouth Wash - Never Too Close.

Any other ideas?

[Auburn Annie]

I believe it - I've seen it (or part of it, anyway, while channel surfing). A little creepy if you ask me but then Dylan's always weirded me out a bit. Nothing much surprises me anymore.

[Auburn Annie]

I believe it - I've seen it (or part of it, anyway, while channel surfing). A little creepy if you ask me but then Dylan's always weirded me out a bit. Nothing much surprises me anymore.

[Auburn Annie]

quote:Originally posted by TheWatchman:
I've seen that TV commercial many times. Nothing creepy or weird about it to me. It's a Victoria's Secret commercial.

'nuff said <giggle>

[Auburn Annie]

quote:Originally posted by TheWatchman:
I've seen that TV commercial many times. Nothing creepy or weird about it to me. It's a Victoria's Secret commercial.

'nuff said <giggle>

[Selene]

I would say Dylan has sold out. I think it really undercuts his reputation to do such a thing. For Lightfoot it's allways been "about the songs". For Dylan it's just a business now. Too bad. No standards.

[Martin/12]

I would say Dylan has sold out. I think it really undercuts his reputation to do such a thing. For Lightfoot it's allways been "about the songs". For Dylan it's just a business now. Too bad. No standards.

[Next Saturday]

It's too bad that Dylan beat Lightfoot to the punch. After all GL is the one "wearing polka-dot underwear...
"

[Auburn Annie]

Well then maybe Joe Boxer will have a commercial opportunity for Gord

[Auburn Annie]

Well then maybe Joe Boxer will have a commercial opportunity for Gord

[MajorSirJerryPending]

how about GL selling security appliances
" The Watchman's Gone".
A spiritualist TV Channel " If you could read my mind"
Trans-Canadian railway " Alberta Bound".
Coors Light " Stone Cold Sober"
The World Wide Web, " Endless Wire ".
Aspirin/ Paracetamol, " The Way I Feel".
Just a few at random
Steve

[steve gittins]

how about GL selling security appliances
" The Watchman's Gone".
A spiritualist TV Channel " If you could read my mind"
Trans-Canadian railway " Alberta Bound".
Coors Light " Stone Cold Sober"
The World Wide Web, " Endless Wire ".
Aspirin/ Paracetamol, " The Way I Feel".
Just a few at random
Steve

[Long River]

Ginko Bilboa - Remember Me
Fabric softener/room spray - Early Morning Rain
900 number - All the Lovely Ladies
Plastic Surgeon - She's Not the Same
Perfume - Romance

[Gaby]

Aloa Vera? Remember me?

[SomewhereupinMichigan]

Yep...saw the ad the other day and remarked to my wife, with some surprise, that Dylan would do it. But, you know, it really doesn't bother me in the least! I hope he was well paid for his time! I'd sooner hear Dylan's music and see his image in the ad than the local goofballs that pitch me cars day-in and day-out 24/7.

[BILLW]

OMG, a well known celebrity made a commercial? You must be pulling my leg. I'll throw all my Dylan CDs in the driveway and drive over them with my truck and I might slit my wrists with the shards of plastic. Nah - how about "more power to 'im mate" I think he's earned the right to do whatever he feels like. It'd be nice to be so talented, no?

Bill http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

[joveski]

sell out shmell out.

he can do what he wants. if he'd quit back in the 60s, he still would have done more than any other performer.

during his famous 1965 san francisco press conference, a reporter asked him if he'd sell out to anything down the track and he said "ladies garments". there was the warning 40 years ago http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

i don't blame him for wanting to prance around with that brunette for a few seconds.

if you look at it from a fan's point of view, we get to hear a small part of an outtake of Love Sick - unreleased till now and the firts outtake to emerghe from the time out of mind album, even though its 20 seconds of it..

he was at the point 38 years ago where he could do what he wanted and get away with it. leave him be...

[Gaby]

Yes! Of course, he can do what he wants.
Frankly, I swing either way on this one. (Can I use that expression here?)

He’s always had a wicked sense of humour.

“Advertising signs that con you “

Well? Who’s conning who?

[joveski]

what are the html tags that you use to add pictures here??

[violet Blue Horse]

So you're saying someone offered Dylan the opportunity to hang out with beautiful women AND get paid for it and he said yes? I'm in shock. Who knew any man would sink so low.

I suppose I might be more offended, or maybe not, if they'd used one of his songs that helped define an era. I'm not that familiar with the song they have used and I have no attachment or feeling associated with it.

But I'm not sure what it would take for me to scream sell out these days.

quote:Originally posted by Gaby:
I just do NOT believe this!!!

Dylan debuts in lingerie advert

[violet Blue Horse]

So you're saying someone offered Dylan the opportunity to hang out with beautiful women AND get paid for it and he said yes? I'm in shock. Who knew any man would sink so low.

I suppose I might be more offended, or maybe not, if they'd used one of his songs that helped define an era. I'm not that familiar with the song they have used and I have no attachment or feeling associated with it.

But I'm not sure what it would take for me to scream sell out these days.

quote:Originally posted by Gaby:
I just do NOT believe this!!!

Dylan debuts in lingerie advert

[joveski]

they used Love Sick which is from the 1997 album time out of mind

[Borderstone]

Did you even stop to think that maybe he just wanted to be near the women???? http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Maybe this is what he meant by,"Rainy Day Women #12 & #35"!! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/wink.gif Or even,"Gotta Serve Somebody!" Might as well be Victoria's i say.
Sell out?? Oh please! If he were going to sell out he would have recorded,"Sugar Sugar" or "Na Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye!"
I say an artist also sells out if they openly speak on camera about the product.
That's hawking & selling. Lastly,V.'s Secret helps a lot of couples in intimate moments,what's wrong with that? http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif Later! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/cool.gif

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Borderstone,gonna post some lines tonight!:D

[joveski]

you can see the commercial here... http://www.northcountryblues.com/temp3/vsangels_300k1.wmv

and pictures:
http://www.aardvark.net.au/~tricia.j/secret296.jpg http://www.aardvark.net.au/~tricia.j/secret240.jpg

[violet Blue Horse]

Funny, I remember something about Dylan spandex and wings from a gossip column a couple years ago http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

quote:Originally posted by ColoradoSue:
The only way Dylan could wierd me out is if he was prancing around, wearing a satin thong & those dreaded angel wings....

Now THAT would paint some pretty unsavory images in my mind.

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[violet Blue Horse]

Funny, I remember something about Dylan spandex and wings from a gossip column a couple years ago http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

quote:Originally posted by ColoradoSue:
The only way Dylan could wierd me out is if he was prancing around, wearing a satin thong & those dreaded angel wings....

Now THAT would paint some pretty unsavory images in my mind.

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[This message has been edited by ColoradoSue (edited April 08, 2004).]

[Selene]

Since when does a folk artist of Dylan's caliper have to go commercial in order to be around beautiful women? There was a time when Dylan was booed for playing an electric guitar at a folk festival. Now he gets a pass for selling underwear. Incrementalism has even worn down artistic standards. I suppose it would be OK if he were selling toothpaste or long distance carriers. I don't know what defines a sell out if this isn't it.

[Martin/12]

Since when does a folk artist of Dylan's caliper have to go commercial in order to be around beautiful women? There was a time when Dylan was booed for playing an electric guitar at a folk festival. Now he gets a pass for selling underwear. Incrementalism has even worn down artistic standards. I suppose it would be OK if he were selling toothpaste or long distance carriers. I don't know what defines a sell out if this isn't it.

[Gaby]

I read this in the paper yesterday:

...................................
Quote Of The Week

“Ladies’ Undergarments”

Bob Dylan, when asked in an interview in 1965 what would tempt him to sell out.
...................................

So, I suppose you can’t say we weren’t warned!

I still think he’s taking the p*ss.

[joveski]

as i said, i think its just a sarcastic nod to his long time fans that have seen the 65 press conference..

[Auburn Annie]

And more on this online at Slate ("Tangled Up in Boobs"): http://slate.msn.com/id/2098635/

Here's an excerpt:

"But I think the most likely motive for Dylan is exposure. It's a real struggle for older rockers to remind the world that they still exist. Their music's not played on the radio, and their videos (if they even make them) aren't in heavy rotation on VH1. Thus you see the Jaguar ads with Sting, or the MCI ads with James Taylor and Michael McDonald—all of them prominently featuring the artist's song. It's essentially a way to put a video on the major networks, where an older audience might see it. Yes, in exchange for publicizing their art they sacrifice some integrity, but this is basically an understandable tradeoff. And Dylan even gets, in the terms of his deal, a mix CD of his songs sold at Victoria's Secret stores.

So, it makes some sense for Bob. But what about Vicky? Why would a brand that's about sexiness, youth, and glamour want any connection at all with a decrepit, sixtysomething folksinger? The answer, my friend, is totally unclear. The answer is totally unclear.

Even if Victoria's Secret hopes to bring in more boomer women, do those women want their underwear to exude the spirit and essence of Bob Dylan? Or, conversely, is Bob Dylan the sort of man they're hoping to attract? Even if you're of the belief that men frequently shop at VS for their ladies, I still don't see the appeal of this ad. I, for instance, am a man, and I can assure you that Bob Dylan is not what I'm looking for in a woman's undergarment. (And if I found him there—man, would that be disturbing.)"

[Auburn Annie]

And more on this online at Slate ("Tangled Up in Boobs"): http://slate.msn.com/id/2098635/

Here's an excerpt:

"But I think the most likely motive for Dylan is exposure. It's a real struggle for older rockers to remind the world that they still exist. Their music's not played on the radio, and their videos (if they even make them) aren't in heavy rotation on VH1. Thus you see the Jaguar ads with Sting, or the MCI ads with James Taylor and Michael McDonald—all of them prominently featuring the artist's song. It's essentially a way to put a video on the major networks, where an older audience might see it. Yes, in exchange for publicizing their art they sacrifice some integrity, but this is basically an understandable tradeoff. And Dylan even gets, in the terms of his deal, a mix CD of his songs sold at Victoria's Secret stores.

So, it makes some sense for Bob. But what about Vicky? Why would a brand that's about sexiness, youth, and glamour want any connection at all with a decrepit, sixtysomething folksinger? The answer, my friend, is totally unclear. The answer is totally unclear.

Even if Victoria's Secret hopes to bring in more boomer women, do those women want their underwear to exude the spirit and essence of Bob Dylan? Or, conversely, is Bob Dylan the sort of man they're hoping to attract? Even if you're of the belief that men frequently shop at VS for their ladies, I still don't see the appeal of this ad. I, for instance, am a man, and I can assure you that Bob Dylan is not what I'm looking for in a woman's undergarment. (And if I found him there—man, would that be disturbing.)"

[violet Blue Horse]

Put in that context it does make sense to me. My generation, ahem, has never exactly been welcomed with open arms by VS. Using an icon from the era of an audience you want to capture is a cheap, cut to the chase, way to appeal to those roughly of the boomer generation. That is, assuming that is their goal. Then again the person who dreamed up the ad campaign could just be a huge Dylan fan.

quote:Originally posted by Auburn Annie:

Even if Victoria's Secret hopes to bring in more boomer women, do those women want their underwear to exude the spirit and essence of Bob Dylan? Or, conversely, is Bob Dylan the sort of man they're hoping to attract? Even if you're of the belief that men frequently shop at VS for their ladies, I still don't see the appeal of this ad. I, for instance, am a man, and I can assure you that Bob Dylan is not what I'm looking for in a woman's undergarment. (And if I found him there—man, would that be disturbing.)"

[violet Blue Horse]

Put in that context it does make sense to me. My generation, ahem, has never exactly been welcomed with open arms by VS. Using an icon from the era of an audience you want to capture is a cheap, cut to the chase, way to appeal to those roughly of the boomer generation. That is, assuming that is their goal. Then again the person who dreamed up the ad campaign could just be a huge Dylan fan.

quote:Originally posted by Auburn Annie:

Even if Victoria's Secret hopes to bring in more boomer women, do those women want their underwear to exude the spirit and essence of Bob Dylan? Or, conversely, is Bob Dylan the sort of man they're hoping to attract? Even if you're of the belief that men frequently shop at VS for their ladies, I still don't see the appeal of this ad. I, for instance, am a man, and I can assure you that Bob Dylan is not what I'm looking for in a woman's undergarment. (And if I found him there—man, would that be disturbing.)"