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Gord
07-24-2002, 07:44 AM
Hi Just picked off a song from Kazaa from Gordon Lightfoot, the user titled it North Ontario, he does the say the word often enough in the song. Tried looking in Song Index, can't find it. Sounds like it is early 60's Lightfoot, anyone recognize this?
Suzi
07-24-2002, 10:14 AM
Would that be the song "Cabaret"?
james hill
07-24-2002, 07:02 PM
Definitely "Cabaret" from "Summer Side of Life".

sweet baby james
Restless
08-21-2002, 11:19 AM
yes, that song is the ONLY recording of Gordon actually cracking open a beer and drinking one. You can hear it plain as day.
james hill
08-21-2002, 08:11 PM
all these years i thought that sound was Gord lighting a smoke! interesting!
joveski
08-21-2002, 10:45 PM
he must have had a big mother of a lighter!
Heather
08-21-2002, 10:59 PM
quote:Originally posted by james hill:
all these years i thought that sound was Gord lighting a smoke! interesting!

Did you think that Gord was using a lighter?
If so, you're not the ony one who thought that, or so I've read at the news group.
Heather
james hill
08-22-2002, 05:18 PM
thanks, Heather, i'm bolstered now!

listen carefully, Lightheads, it's a smoke-break, not a beer-break that our hero is having! (although i'm sure ther was lots of those too!)

re:Cabaret from SSOL

James Hill
james hill
08-22-2002, 05:30 PM
boy is my face red! i took my own advice & re-listened to "Cabaret" very carefully. sure as shootin' our man Gord is indeed havin' himself a libation! i won't be cocky anymore

(the above, loosely translated means yes, Gord was having a beer. i was wrong, you were right.)

James Hill
Cathy
08-22-2002, 05:32 PM
quote:Originally posted by james hill:
thanks, Heather, i'm bolstered now!

listen carefully, Lightheads, it's a smoke-break, not a beer-break that our hero is having! (although i'm sure ther was lots of those too!)

re:Cabaret from SSOL

James Hill

Listen again, James. It's the sound of a pop top being pulled from a can, someone drinking, then "Ahhhhhhhh".

How much did Derek pay you to make you say these things?!

Cathy



[This message has been edited by Cathy (edited August 22, 2002).]
Brian 57
08-22-2002, 06:56 PM
So now that the beer theory has been accepted, any thoughts as to what brand it might have been? And would the can now be a collector's item? And if so, how would one verify it? (No, I'm not headed to Sotheby's with a can from the side of the road.)
james hill
08-22-2002, 08:29 PM
the beer theory has once again been quashed! fairly reliable sources have it that it's Rick Haynes opening a can of Fancy Feast for Daylight Kitty!
Brian 57
08-22-2002, 09:28 PM
Whatever it is, at least it wasn't somebody GOING to the can. (Although that may have come a short time after and wasn't recorded) http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

[This message has been edited by Brian 57 (edited August 22, 2002).]
Jenney
08-23-2002, 10:21 AM
The sound effects on Caberet has been addressed over at alt.music.lightfoot a number of times. Someone that was there at the recording session has told us that it was a Bud.
Jenney
Rebecca
08-23-2002, 08:35 PM
No one is supposed to say, explicitly or otherwise, that Rick Haynes likes cats.
Rebecca


quote:Originally posted by james hill:
the beer theory has once again been quashed! fairly reliable sources have it that it's Rick Haynes opening a can of Fancy Feast for Daylight Kitty!
Rebecca
08-23-2002, 08:36 PM
It was probably a beer from Elsinore brewery.
Rebecca

quote:Originally posted by Brian 57:
So now that the beer theory has been accepted, any thoughts as to what brand it might have been? And would the can now be a collector's item? And if so, how would one verify it? (No, I'm not headed to Sotheby's with a can from the side of the road.)
Cathy
08-24-2002, 12:17 PM
quote:Originally posted by TheWatchman:
Actually, not to rain in on everyone's parade, but...

The sound of the beer being opened at the AHHHHH sound being made was put there by accident by the sound tech's friend who came in at the wrong time and didn't realize that they were still recording. I guess the sound tech forgot or wasn't paying attention and it ended up on the first recording. Gord loved the effect and thought it was rather funny and actually, yes this is true, has the guy's name listed in the credits of that album. His name is Rich Fortier and it is under "special effects".

Before you all go and find the album cover, I'm only joking. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

I have to diagree with you here. Gord's voice has a very distinctive sound. I think it's him saying, "Ahhhhh". He's doing it with a Canadian accent.

Cathy
Bill Allen
08-24-2002, 03:17 PM
quote:Originally posted by Cathy:
Listen again, James. It's the sound of a pop top being pulled from a can, someone drinking, then "Ahhhhhhhh".
How much did Derek pay you to make you say these things?!
Cathy

My financial transactions are strictly confidential, but I suspect James is really enjoying his new Ferrari... http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif
Derek

[This message has been edited by Cathy (edited August 22, 2002).]
telekidd
08-24-2002, 03:17 PM
quote:Originally posted by Cathy:
Listen again, James. It's the sound of a pop top being pulled from a can, someone drinking, then "Ahhhhhhhh".
How much did Derek pay you to make you say these things?!
Cathy

My financial transactions are strictly confidential, but I suspect James is really enjoying his new Ferrari... http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif
Derek

[This message has been edited by Cathy (edited August 22, 2002).]
james hill
08-25-2002, 05:53 PM
Rebecca,

i never said that Rick Haynes liked cats!
We bass players are a sensitive lot, & if we see something that is hungry, then by gosh we'll feed it!

James Hill
james hill
08-25-2002, 05:59 PM
please file my above post under "HUH?", or "SHE STARTED IT!"

James Hill
james hill
08-25-2002, 06:04 PM
Derek,

The Ferrari is wonderful but i'm getting a little tired of Elton John always borrowing money off me!

James Hill
Rebecca
08-25-2002, 11:30 PM
James,
You were NOT suggesting that he might have an affinity for our feline friends. Whew!!! That's a BIG relief!!! I was afraid that the straw boss might bust into this message board and smash heads together or something. Maybe he hates cats, or maybe he doesn't, but even talking about it is highly risky.
Rebecca


quote:Originally posted by james hill:
Rebecca,

i never said that Rick Haynes liked cats!
We bass players are a sensitive lot, & if we see something that is hungry, then by gosh we'll feed it!

James Hill
telekidd
08-26-2002, 11:59 AM
quote:Originally posted by james hill:
Derek,

The Ferrari is wonderful but i'm getting a little tired of Elton John always borrowing money off me!
James Hill

HA! Boy, what a mooch, huh? :-D
Derek
2Much2Lose
08-26-2002, 12:06 PM
Rick is misquoted on that one all the time. He didn't say he liked cats. He used a 5-letter synonym.



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"And the laughter came too easy for life to pass me by."
Janice
08-26-2002, 03:13 PM
quote:Originally posted by 2Much2Lose:
Rick is misquoted on that one all the time. He didn't say he liked cats. He used a 5-letter synonym.



You are, indeed, 2Much http://www.corfid.com/ubb/eek.gif
james hill
08-26-2002, 05:22 PM
the very thought of the STRAW BOSS smashing my head together is quite disheartening, but in a way, exciting. needless to say, i won't mention IT again! Promise!

James Hill
Rebecca
08-26-2002, 09:26 PM
Oh. THAT"S what he said. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


quote:Originally posted by 2Much2Lose:
Rick is misquoted on that one all the time. He didn't say he liked cats. He used a 5-letter synonym.
2Much2Lose
08-28-2002, 11:43 AM
By the way, the "North Ontario" mentioned in the song appears from the context to be Ontario, California, although I'm sure it had a double meaning for Gord.



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"And the laughter came too easy for life to pass me by."
Brenda
08-28-2002, 11:55 AM
Or, it could have been On-Tear-I-O, Oregon(which is near the Or-EE-Gone border with Idaho, and is relatively North)...being an Oregonian, I'm sure that's what he meant, just as I'm sure that he was thinking of me when he wrote "Song for a Winter's Night"...I wish!!!

[This message has been edited by Brenda (edited September 03, 2002).]
james hill
08-28-2002, 02:09 PM
we've had a few yuk-yuk's with "Cabaret", but the more i hear it, it really is a great song. that whole intro with the elec.guitar work is wonderful, but so is the whole album. i really love that instr. break in "Nous Vivons Ensemble". it's 1 of his more ambitious records. he went back to simplicity on "Don Quixote".
joveski
08-28-2002, 04:17 PM
i've also listened to this song a bit more since this thread came up. i love it as well. it has that feeling of sadness and happiness in it. that piano bit after "i hope you find your rainbows end" does it for me.

on a more technical note, is it safe to assume that he plays the slow part of the song with a capo on the 3rd fret and then as he cracks open the can (we need not go there again!), he takes the capo off and plays open strings?. i always do this and it sound really good. it depends on whether anyone's seen him do it live (if he ever has done it live!)
Restless
08-28-2002, 04:43 PM
I asked Gordon last week at Early Morning Studio about the beer. He thinks it was a Carling Black Label and that they had several that day. The guy just recorded it and they dubbed it in over the track.
james hill
08-28-2002, 05:41 PM
joveski,

the opening passage to "Cabaret" is a great thing to doodle around with on a rainy afternoon (acoustic gitar or piano, whatever). i turn it into a lengthy jazz workout. thank god, you'll never hear it, but it's a lot of fun anyway! (as long as no-one's listening)
james hill
08-28-2002, 05:47 PM
has any other GL song gotten this many posts? maybe he SHOULD do it live!
telekidd
08-28-2002, 07:14 PM
quote:Originally posted by james hill:
has any other GL song gotten this many posts? maybe he SHOULD do it live!

Hey, if that's the criteria, I'll add another post to the list! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif Seriously, despite the history of my relationship with the song "Cabaret" from the early days of the newsgroup, it remains one of my favorite songs from one of my favorite albums.
Derek
catmanron
08-30-2002, 01:32 AM
I'm sorry but I have to comment on this,

I really like Cabaret, it's one of my Favourite GL songs, it creates a very strong image in my mind of a singer / songwriter ( Gord) plying their trade at out of the way venues in California,( he finishes his act, pulls a ring top, has a good long drink, then starts dreaming of his family and friends back home in North Ontario.

I was really happy with this vision, then Derek says its not a ring top, its a zippo lighter, then John Fowles says its not North Ontario, Canada, its some suburb of LA, wow, did my world fall apart at this point !!.

Now people are saying that it is a ring top, Gords even saying what brand of beer it is, even Derek is accepting that its not a zippo, but still people, 2M2L and Brenda are saying its not North Ontario, Canada, but California, or maybe Oregon, but even though I can find Ontario in other places, I can only find one North Ontario, so, I'm happy my original vision is intact, and I'll keep dreaming of Kathy in North Bay, and continue to Smile..

Keep Smiling Ron http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif
2Much2Lose
08-30-2002, 02:50 PM
Upon closer listening, it sure sounds like opening a beer.

But until I read about it, I always thought it was the sound of clicking on a microphone. Picture a lounge singer strolling up to the mike in some forlorn cabaret, with the unprofessionalism of turning on a noisy mike. I know that's not what it is, but I still enjoy the irony of that mental picture.



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"And the laughter came too easy for life to pass me by."
johnfowles
05-04-2006, 08:34 AM
From Mr Suber's recent topic
"what is up with that?" at:-
http://www.corfid.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=003843
Originally posted by James Suber:
in Cabaret, right before the lines:
"From the coast of California
Up to the Oregon border"
it sounded like he had messed up or something because you can hear him letting out an exasperated sigh...
Anyone know what happened? :confused: James (or as Bruna psyches you "DMD3" from Tifton GA)
when asking questions such as this it behooves you to do a modicum of research on this forum first. Had you taken the trouble to search for "cabaret" you would undoubtedly have found this old topic which I am replying to now to bring it back to the top and to augment Char's reply to your new topic.
Please note Cathy's reply above (on August 24 2002) in which she quoted in full an earlier reply by Al Watchman . his reply is one of the many postings Al deleted when he previously withdrew from this forum. I have now checked my Vinyl copy of SSOL and there is no mention on the sleeve of the mythical "special effects" guy (Rich Fortier) nor in the front CD insert either,
However after googling I found at:-
http://niagarariveranglers.com/steelhead_tournament_info.htm
that Rich is actually something to do with the
NIAGARA RIVER ANGLERS ASSOCIATIONS
so I guess that Al is a keen fisherman??
JohnFowles

you could also have found another relevant topic
""Cabaret" Summer Side Of Life" at:-
http://www.corfid.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=003303#000018
in which I illustrated a suitable beer bottle label:-
http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/lightfoot/lightfoot_beer.jpg
But if it was in fact a beer can it cannot have been Gord's own beer
SilverHeels
05-04-2006, 09:57 AM
John, now you know why I am sure James is from Georgia! ;)
Jesse Joe
05-04-2006, 12:40 PM
Yes it is the song 'Cabaret' from the 1971 album, "Summerside Side Of Life." Many people make that very same mistake of calling it, "North Ontario." He says those words so many times in the song that one would think that's the title. Not...
johnfowles
08-27-2010, 11:02 AM
Yes it is the song 'Cabaret' from the 1971 album, "Summerside Side Of Life." Many people make that very same mistake of calling it, "North Ontario." He says those words so many times in the song that one would think that's the title. Not...
Despite the annoying duplication of replies this remains one of my favo(u)rite threads about one of my favo(u)rite Gordsongs