Gordon's Story.....

[cody]

Let me start by saying that I'm a HUGE GL fan. One cannot take that long car ride or camping trip without a plethora of Gord to make the miles melt away or for enjoying the stars and the fire.

I was wondering why this guy has not yet written a book about his life's journey??? I'd LOVE to learn more about him and his life. I've heard many things about Gordon. It's been said that he's had a hard road of both triumphs and hardships. I've heard he's struggled, like all of his peers, with alcoholism. Not to dwell on the negative or personal struggles...just to have a more personal understanding of the man behind this beautiful art.

I was always hoping there would be a two hour "Behind The Music" special dedicated to Gordon. A fascinating story and journey indeed.
Again, I'm not looking for "the dirt," or expecting his story to be anything like that of a Motley Crue...just would like to hear it all...the triumphs and hardships simply to better understand an artist whom I adore.

Is he arrogant, humble, bratty, quiet....? Does he really possess Native North American lineage? How do people he's worked with and been close to him through the years percieve him? Those insider friends, lovers and peers stories would truly be interesting. Though, I'm sure there are stories that he would rather not share.

Yes, a book or DVD compilation story chock full of old footage would be so very appreciated. And I know there are those who are thinking, "who cares about Gord's personal interests, and disappointing hardships? Why cant we just embrace his life through his art?

I care and I do. He's merely a gifted mortal human being. My fondness of him and his art makes me long to better know him in that very way.

How can I find out more about Gordon Lightfoot? Are there any compilation performance film footage available? DOES ANYONE have a Gordon Lightfoot story to share???

[WanderLust]

Let me start by saying that I'm a HUGE GL fan. One cannot take that long car ride or camping trip without a plethora of Gord to make the miles melt away or for enjoying the stars and the fire.

I was wondering why this guy has not yet written a book about his life's journey??? I'd LOVE to learn more about him and his life. I've heard many things about Gordon. It's been said that he's had a hard road of both triumphs and hardships. I've heard he's struggled, like all of his peers, with alcoholism. Not to dwell on the negative or personal struggles...just to have a more personal understanding of the man behind this beautiful art.

I was always hoping there would be a two hour "Behind The Music" special dedicated to Gordon. A fascinating story and journey indeed.
Again, I'm not looking for "the dirt," or expecting his story to be anything like that of a Motley Crue...just would like to hear it all...the triumphs and hardships simply to better understand an artist whom I adore.

Is he arrogant, humble, bratty, quiet....? Does he really possess Native North American lineage? How do people he's worked with and been close to him through the years percieve him? Those insider friends, lovers and peers stories would truly be interesting. Though, I'm sure there are stories that he would rather not share.

Yes, a book or DVD compilation story chock full of old footage would be so very appreciated. And I know there are those who are thinking, "who cares about Gord's personal interests, and disappointing hardships? Why cant we just embrace his life through his art?

I care and I do. He's merely a gifted mortal human being. My fondness of him and his art makes me long to better know him in that very way.

How can I find out more about Gordon Lightfoot? Are there any compilation performance film footage available? DOES ANYONE have a Gordon Lightfoot story to share???

[Gord H]

There was a book about him called If You Could Read His Mind, and the CBC has plenty of archival material about him online.

As far as Gord writing a book personally, I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for it, I recall at one time he said he wasn't interested in doing it.

:)

[cody]

So there is a book out there. Have you read it or know of it's publishing date? I'd be very interested and am hoping its still in print. I'm suspecting that it might be from the 70s which would make it quite an item for collectors.

I've seen plenty of interesting early footage but never compiled in chronological order intertwind with a narrative story of his career.

Too bad he's "not interested" in writing a book as much as I'm interested in reading it. Perhaps he's just a private person and doesn't wish to share his story. The whole story, including the parts about the 70's wilder decadent Gordon Lightfoot that I've heard so much about. The one with the sunglasses and the long hair and how that guy dealt with topping the charts.

Thanks for the info about the book that is available!

:D :D :D :D

[WanderLust]

So there is a book out there. Have you read it or know of it's publishing date? I'd be very interested and am hoping its still in print. I'm suspecting that it might be from the 70s which would make it quite an item for collectors.

I've seen plenty of interesting early footage but never compiled in chronological order intertwind with a narrative story of his career.

Too bad he's "not interested" in writing a book as much as I'm interested in reading it. Perhaps he's just a private person and doesn't wish to share his story. The whole story, including the parts about the 70's wilder decadent Gordon Lightfoot that I've heard so much about. The one with the sunglasses and the long hair and how that guy dealt with topping the charts.

Thanks for the info about the book that is available!

:D :D :D :D

[GJA]

The book "If You Could Read His Mind" is not in print anymore but can sometimes be had on ebay. I bought a copy that way, then resold it. I resold it because it was so expensive! There is also an earlier bio of him that you can also sometimes get on ebay. I also bought and resold that one.

I always assumed he must have Native North American lineage but actually, his ancestors are from Scotland!!

[GJA]

The book "If You Could Read His Mind" is not in print anymore but can sometimes be had on ebay. I bought a copy that way, then resold it. I resold it because it was so expensive! There is also an earlier bio of him that you can also sometimes get on ebay. I also bought and resold that one.

I always assumed he must have Native North American lineage but actually, his ancestors are from Scotland!!

[charlene]

Lightfoot said something about writing a book at one of the Massey shows in May. But he didn't think anyone would want to read it...he'd be leaving out the good parts!
lol

I think he'll continue to write about his life in his songs...

[charlene]

Lightfoot said something about writing a book at one of the Massey shows in May. But he didn't think anyone would want to read it...he'd be leaving out the good parts!
lol

I think he'll continue to write about his life in his songs...

[Auburn Annie]

I've volunteered to "ghost" for him anytime, LOL, or with byline if he wants to do an "as told to" autobiography. I suggested one time he should write one just for his kids and grandkids - for when they're all old enough to read it.

[Auburn Annie]

I've volunteered to "ghost" for him anytime, LOL, or with byline if he wants to do an "as told to" autobiography. I suggested one time he should write one just for his kids and grandkids - for when they're all old enough to read it.

[johnfowles]

Well All Right a certain young lady journalist who knows Gordon well enough to give him confidential personal weather reports
by cell phone and sometimes frequents these forums is extremely keen to write a full biography but despite pesterring Gord
and his manager Barry Harvey for years as of the recent Massey Hall concerts I do believe she is still hopeful.
Correct Bruna/silverheels??
As far as already published bios go there are two that I know aboot
both are depicted on:-
http://www.lightfoot.ca/biograph.htm
the best is probably the one by Alfriedo Gabiou.
http://www.lightfoot.ca/gabiou.jpg
The second "If You Could Read His Mind" by Maynard Collins
http://www.lightfoot.ca/collins.jpg
is generally rated to be more sensationalist and I believe the considered advice is that if you get a copy do not ask Gordon
to autograph it!!
As mentioned above both occassionally appear in ebay auction but of course none at this very moment!!
John Fowles
And ever after I will be remembered
In my fashion, in my way
Otherwise listen to a Painter Passing Through or In My Fashion

[johnfowles]

Well All Right a certain young lady journalist who knows Gordon well enough to give him confidential personal weather reports
by cell phone and sometimes frequents these forums is extremely keen to write a full biography but despite pesterring Gord
and his manager Barry Harvey for years as of the recent Massey Hall concerts I do believe she is still hopeful.
Correct Bruna/silverheels??
As far as already published bios go there are two that I know aboot
both are depicted on:-
http://www.lightfoot.ca/biograph.htm
the best is probably the one by Alfriedo Gabiou.
http://www.lightfoot.ca/gabiou.jpg
The second "If You Could Read His Mind" by Maynard Collins
http://www.lightfoot.ca/collins.jpg
is generally rated to be more sensationalist and I believe the considered advice is that if you get a copy do not ask Gordon
to autograph it!!
As mentioned above both occassionally appear in ebay auction but of course none at this very moment!!
John Fowles
And ever after I will be remembered
In my fashion, in my way
Otherwise listen to a Painter Passing Through or In My Fashion

[ricky Jay]

I had found out a long time ago that his ancestors are Scottish, but with a last name like Lightfoot, it seems so strange that he wouldn't have a drop of Native American blood. Oh well, whatever Gord says. :)

[Shazia]

I had found out a long time ago that his ancestors are Scottish, but with a last name like Lightfoot, it seems so strange that he wouldn't have a drop of Native American blood. Oh well, whatever Gord says. :)

[violet Blue]

The story about the toilet. Hmmmmmm.

While I go in search of a copy of the book, which may take awhile, care to relate the "Story of the Toilet"? :)


Originally posted by MistyMoppens:
For a long time "If You Could Read His Mind" was going for between $75-$115 at eBay. I enjoyed it. There were a lot of great pictures of not only Gordon but family, friends, girlfriends, the band, etc.

I still can't get over that story about the toilet.... He said something like, "But it was a CLEAN toilet!"

omg

[GJA]

Cathy Smith said in her book "Chasing the Dragon" (I think that is what it is called) said that in one fight he pushed her head in a toilet. When asked about that, he said "The water was clean". I think this was in his drinking days.

[GJA]

Cathy Smith said in her book "Chasing the Dragon" (I think that is what it is called) said that in one fight he pushed her head in a toilet. When asked about that, he said "The water was clean". I think this was in his drinking days.

[cody]

I could not help but "lol" at the "swirly" reference! The visual gives a whole new meaning to the song "For Lovin Me" (that's what ya get)
hahahhaha

Thanks to each and every one of you for the excellent info. I've found everything I've been wondering about, (and wondering for along time I might add,) here and in only two days!

As far as his linage...I'd heard he's half anglo and half Native North American. His fair skin and reddish hair would support his Scottish claim. My ancestors were Scottish and came from Europe down through Canada by way of the great Viking trail from New Foundland. (the trail where they say the first white baby was born in North America) My family also acquired some native American linage through their journey.

Perhaps Gordon was a McInally and changed his name to Lightfoot to be more musically viable like John Mellencamp did to Cougar. Honestly, I dont think musicians were changing names as early as Gordon came onto the scene in the early 60s. It's also not likely that "Lightfoot" is a traceable Scottish name. Perhaps his dad was native and his mother was Scottish...or his dad was half....WHO KNOWS? heh heh

Does it matter? Sure would be interesting to know is all.

Cannot WAIT to get my hands on these books! Thanks again!

[WanderLust]

I could not help but "lol" at the "swirly" reference! The visual gives a whole new meaning to the song "For Lovin Me" (that's what ya get)
hahahhaha

Thanks to each and every one of you for the excellent info. I've found everything I've been wondering about, (and wondering for along time I might add,) here and in only two days!

As far as his linage...I'd heard he's half anglo and half Native North American. His fair skin and reddish hair would support his Scottish claim. My ancestors were Scottish and came from Europe down through Canada by way of the great Viking trail from New Foundland. (the trail where they say the first white baby was born in North America) My family also acquired some native American linage through their journey.

Perhaps Gordon was a McInally and changed his name to Lightfoot to be more musically viable like John Mellencamp did to Cougar. Honestly, I dont think musicians were changing names as early as Gordon came onto the scene in the early 60s. It's also not likely that "Lightfoot" is a traceable Scottish name. Perhaps his dad was native and his mother was Scottish...or his dad was half....WHO KNOWS? heh heh

Does it matter? Sure would be interesting to know is all.

Cannot WAIT to get my hands on these books! Thanks again!

[bjorn]

Originally posted by WanderLust:
I could not help but "lol" at the "swirly" reference! The visual gives a whole new meaning to the song "For Lovin Me" (that's what ya get)
hahahhaha

Thanks to each and every one of you for the excellent info. I've found everything I've been wondering about, (and wondering for along time I might add,) here and in only two days!

As far as his linage...I'd heard he's half anglo and half Native North American. His fair skin and reddish hair would support his Scottish claim. My ancestors were Scottish and came from Europe down through Canada by way of the great Viking trail from New Foundland. (the trail where they say the first white baby was born in North America) My family also acquired some native American linage through their journey.

Perhaps Gordon was a McInally and changed his name to Lightfoot to be more musically viable like John Mellencamp did to Cougar. Honestly, I dont think musicians were changing names as early as Gordon came onto the scene in the early 60s. It's also not likely that "Lightfoot" is a traceable Scottish name. Perhaps his dad was native and his mother was Scottish...or his dad was half....WHO KNOWS? heh heh

Does it matter? Sure would be interesting to know is all.

Cannot WAIT to get my hands on these books! Thanks again! Gord was born a Lightfoot and when asked about his anscestory, has been quoted as saying "I'm Scottish all the way."
His father was Gordon Lightfoot Sr.
Despite the native American sound of it, Lightfoot is actually of a name of Scottish/English origin.
Erica

[Sundreme]

Originally posted by WanderLust:
I could not help but "lol" at the "swirly" reference! The visual gives a whole new meaning to the song "For Lovin Me" (that's what ya get)
hahahhaha

Thanks to each and every one of you for the excellent info. I've found everything I've been wondering about, (and wondering for along time I might add,) here and in only two days!

As far as his linage...I'd heard he's half anglo and half Native North American. His fair skin and reddish hair would support his Scottish claim. My ancestors were Scottish and came from Europe down through Canada by way of the great Viking trail from New Foundland. (the trail where they say the first white baby was born in North America) My family also acquired some native American linage through their journey.

Perhaps Gordon was a McInally and changed his name to Lightfoot to be more musically viable like John Mellencamp did to Cougar. Honestly, I dont think musicians were changing names as early as Gordon came onto the scene in the early 60s. It's also not likely that "Lightfoot" is a traceable Scottish name. Perhaps his dad was native and his mother was Scottish...or his dad was half....WHO KNOWS? heh heh

Does it matter? Sure would be interesting to know is all.

Cannot WAIT to get my hands on these books! Thanks again! Gord was born a Lightfoot and when asked about his anscestory, has been quoted as saying "I'm Scottish all the way."
His father was Gordon Lightfoot Sr.
Despite the native American sound of it, Lightfoot is actually of a name of Scottish/English origin.
Erica

[charlene]

as is my married name - Westbrook... Scottish/English,although it could be and has been thought to be a native name.

[charlene]

as is my married name - Westbrook... Scottish/English,although it could be and has been thought to be a native name.

[violet Blue]

Well now who fights in a bathroom anyway, sheesh? Two places to never have a knock down drag out, the bathroom and the kitchen. Always go for the room with the softest furniture and no sharp knives.


Originally posted by GJA:
Cathy Smith said in her book "Chasing the Dragon" (I think that is what it is called) said that in one fight he pushed her head in a toilet. When asked about that, he said "The water was clean". I think this was in his drinking days.

[cody]

I'd agree...although there seems to be lots to set off an arguement in the bathing area. Bad aim, neglecting to lower the seat after bad aim, squeezing the toothpaste tube from the middle, leaving hair trimmings, using the man of the house's razor for legs, running the hot water while your mate is showering making it cold....the list goes on and on.
heh heh

Yes, soft furniture all the way...and soft carpet too. FYI: Soft carpet is also excellent for pratfalls as well!

[WanderLust]

I'd agree...although there seems to be lots to set off an arguement in the bathing area. Bad aim, neglecting to lower the seat after bad aim, squeezing the toothpaste tube from the middle, leaving hair trimmings, using the man of the house's razor for legs, running the hot water while your mate is showering making it cold....the list goes on and on.
heh heh

Yes, soft furniture all the way...and soft carpet too. FYI: Soft carpet is also excellent for pratfalls as well!

[Sheryl]

I heard somewhere someone ELSE in this forum did a "swirly" to someone.... COME ON, FESS UP!! You know who you are!!

[violet Blue]

FOOT MASSAGERS!

Oh.

Foot MESSENGERS. It's late, I should be in bed by now. But a nice foot massage would go over well, LOL

Ya know, it must be a guy thing. Pushing people's faces into toilet bowls. Show of hands, how many women here have had that done to them or done it to someone else?

Okay. Now show of hands for the guys.

And can I just say, if my new state of the art low flow toilet is an indication, it's an idea who's day has come and gone. It's hard to drown an ant in that thing let along get someone wet.


Originally posted by MistyMoppens:

Cathy also asserts in her autobiography that during one fight Lightfoot pushed her face into a toilet bowl. Reminded of the incident, he treats it lightly with a bit of a twinkle in his eye. "It was a clean toilet bowl," he drawls. "If there was anything in it besides water I would have never done that." His reply was so dead-pan it is hard to tell if he is making a joke or not.


Regarding the name... when I asked him about it he said it was Scottish and that at one time his people were foot messengers and that's how the name originated.

[DJ in MJ]

Originally posted by violet Blue Horse:
FOOT MASSAGERS!Yaaaa!!!!

My feet are the only part of my body my wife is NOT allowed to touch. I can barely cut my own toenails without sending myself through the roof. :D

[GJA]

I can't imagine that any guy would live long enough to tell the story if they even tried to put my head in a toilet bowl...not even GL. But I think Cathy Smith gave as good as she got. Anyway, I think drink fueled a lot of that.

As far as foot massages...I can't stand for anyone to touch my feet...I'm like djb there!

[GJA]

I can't imagine that any guy would live long enough to tell the story if they even tried to put my head in a toilet bowl...not even GL. But I think Cathy Smith gave as good as she got. Anyway, I think drink fueled a lot of that.

As far as foot massages...I can't stand for anyone to touch my feet...I'm like djb there!

[violet Blue]

Yeah, it was part of the charm when I was twenty. Now I just want someone who can read, write full sentances, spell, is gainfully employed, single and a non workaholic. If there's a bad boy out there like that who can give a good foot massage send him my way.

Well, see, to a man, if it's been flushed recently the toilet IS clean. Most of them don't know what a scrub brush is for or that the yellow ring around the bowl isn't supposed to be there. Which brings us to Wanderlust's comment about bad aim. Boys, if ya know ya missed, CLEAN IT UP!

[DJ in MJ]

At my last place of employment, there was a wonderful sign behind the toilet. It was in Swedish of course, but it read something like, "Now that you have peed all over the floor, kindly clean it up and flush before you wash your hands."

[Sentimental]

"If you sprinkle while you tinkle, be a sweetie, wipe the seatie." :)

[Tyler]

Originally posted by Sheryl:
I heard somewhere someone ELSE in this forum did a "swirly" to someone.... COME ON, FESS UP!! You know who you are!! That would be me, she deserved it and I don't feel one bit bad about it. She got the swirly, my husband got the divorce, before the birth of our son. I really enjoyed the swirly, I think I would get a 10 in water sports on that one.

Moral or the story? Don't screw around with a pregnant woman's husband, and then after you get caught don't run into the bathroom to hide.

[brink]

Originally posted by Sheryl:
I heard somewhere someone ELSE in this forum did a "swirly" to someone.... COME ON, FESS UP!! You know who you are!! That would be me, she deserved it and I don't feel one bit bad about it. She got the swirly, my husband got the divorce, before the birth of our son. I really enjoyed the swirly, I think I would get a 10 in water sports on that one.

Moral or the story? Don't screw around with a pregnant woman's husband, and then after you get caught don't run into the bathroom to hide.

[charlene]

I think that's the 11th commandment that didn't get added to the tablet!
lol

[charlene]

I think that's the 11th commandment that didn't get added to the tablet!
lol

[violet Blue]

ROTFLMAO. Gods no, never mess with a pregnant woman's husband. I give it a 10 just on principle.

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by johnfowles:
Well All Right a certain young lady journalist who knows Gordon well enough to give him confidential personal weather reports
by cell phone and sometimes frequents these forums is extremely keen to write a full biography but despite pesterring Gord
and his manager Barry Harvey for years as of the recent Massey Hall concerts I do believe she is still hopeful.
Correct Bruna/silverheels??
I have emailed her with a link to this topic but no response yet
Maynard Collins
http://www.lightfoot.ca/collins.jpg
is generally rated to be more sensationalist and I believe the considered advice is that if you get a copy do not ask Gordon
to autograph it!!
As mentioned above both occasionally appear in ebay auction but of course none at this very moment!!Today Wednesday 6 July I see one at-
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=378&item=4560549517&rd=1
John Fowles

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by johnfowles:
Well All Right a certain young lady journalist who knows Gordon well enough to give him confidential personal weather reports
by cell phone and sometimes frequents these forums is extremely keen to write a full biography but despite pesterring Gord
and his manager Barry Harvey for years as of the recent Massey Hall concerts I do believe she is still hopeful.
Correct Bruna/silverheels??
I have emailed her with a link to this topic but no response yet
Maynard Collins
http://www.lightfoot.ca/collins.jpg
is generally rated to be more sensationalist and I believe the considered advice is that if you get a copy do not ask Gordon
to autograph it!!
As mentioned above both occasionally appear in ebay auction but of course none at this very moment!!Today Wednesday 6 July I see one at-
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=378&item=4560549517&rd=1
John Fowles

[<T.C.>]

Soon after this topic appeared I decided to search for a copy of one of the Lightfoot bio's and found a great copy of "If you could read his mind". It was only $22 plus shipping.

After reading the book my admiration for Gord, his music, and his drive to get to where he is, went straight up. Sure, there's some negative stuff in there but who doesn't have a bit of bad history in their past? Besides, all that turmoil made for some great songs.

I'm not sure a new biography about Gord would make the New York Times best seller list here in the States but in Canada, given his sort of recent rebirth, maybe, just maybe folks would be interested. Don't know.

I had no idea he was such a Canadian icon during the 60s, at least that's how Collins paints it. There are a few copies listed out there costing around $45. I also found a few copies of the other bio by Gabiou but it's way to expensive, nearly $100.

TC...rarely posts but lurks daily

[<T.C.>]

Soon after this topic appeared I decided to search for a copy of one of the Lightfoot bio's and found a great copy of "If you could read his mind". It was only $22 plus shipping.

After reading the book my admiration for Gord, his music, and his drive to get to where he is, went straight up. Sure, there's some negative stuff in there but who doesn't have a bit of bad history in their past? Besides, all that turmoil made for some great songs.

I'm not sure a new biography about Gord would make the New York Times best seller list here in the States but in Canada, given his sort of recent rebirth, maybe, just maybe folks would be interested. Don't know.

I had no idea he was such a Canadian icon during the 60s, at least that's how Collins paints it. There are a few copies listed out there costing around $45. I also found a few copies of the other bio by Gabiou but it's way to expensive, nearly $100.

TC...rarely posts but lurks daily

[silenceandsound86]

So happy to see all the folks here who share my terror at having my feet touched. My daughter thinks I'm crazy, and thinks it's hysterical to pretend she's going to tickle my foot. NOT FUNNY!! So nice to know I'm not alone in this.

[Rona]

So happy to see all the folks here who share my terror at having my feet touched. My daughter thinks I'm crazy, and thinks it's hysterical to pretend she's going to tickle my foot. NOT FUNNY!! So nice to know I'm not alone in this.

[The Rez]

The Rumblers rythm guitar player (known for his whammy-bar intro to BOSS) had the ugliest feet on earth.

When we'd be at the beach and a fine girl would stroll by, we'd make Mike bury his feet in the sand.

And no way I'd ever touch 'em.

This is all found in Gord's Story, of course.

Evenin'

The Rez

[Poor Little Alison]

Included with the "Songbook" collection is a very nice booklet with lots of biographical info in it. It was worth the money for that alone. It does not, however, contain the "toilet" story. :D

[Ophelia]

Included with the "Songbook" collection is a very nice booklet with lots of biographical info in it. It was worth the money for that alone. It does not, however, contain the "toilet" story. :D

[Ol Man River]

Where is a good place to buy songbook I live in ottawa and check a couple of places that do not carry it.
Dave
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[culverd]

Where is a good place to buy songbook I live in ottawa and check a couple of places that do not carry it.
Dave

[Tyler]

amazon.com and Barnes and noble both carry it on their websites.

[brink]

amazon.com and Barnes and noble both carry it on their websites.

[Ol Man River]

thanks for the information I do some travalling most weekends to chalet and need some new lightfoots cds
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[culverd]

thanks for the information I do some travalling most weekends to chalet and need some new lightfoots cds

[Sydney Steve]

Consider yourself lucky culverd. A few months back I sought recommendations in this forum from people who post on Corfid for my next GL purchase. I chose to go with the majority view and just a few hours ago got around to it and paid for "Songbook" to be imported to me here in Sydney. It has to come from the US and the shop assistant earnestly advised me to expect a call in around 3 months !!!...
And through a stroke of luck I have come across a photo of the very same carrier pigeon - (possibly the slowest in history) in a trans-Pacific Ocean crossing on the job on my behalf......

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