Amazing voice texture

[fowlesjohn]

Softly...don't you guys think?
GSS

[gwen snyder]

Softly...don't you guys think?
GSS

[Borderstone]

Gwen,for a moment I couldn't tell how your topic title and following message were related,it was so short. ..but,yes. I'd have to agree with you that,"Softly" is one of his top songs that really shows the texture and versatility of his voice. Certainly one of the top 10. I would also nominate,"Beautiful","The Last Time I Saw Her","Affair On 8th Ave." and "P.Willows & Cat Tails." This sounds dumb of me right now,but off-hand I can't think of a 70's song that shows this off. I think my battery is low today! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif Any opinions out there? HELP! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/eek.gif It's been the B! Catch ya on the flipside of Sundown! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/cool.gif

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Borderstone (Also known as,"The B!")

[Cathy]

quote:Originally posted by Borderstone:
This sounds dumb of me right now,but off-hand I can't think of a 70's song that shows this off. I think my battery is low today! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif Any opinions out there? HELP! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/eek.gif It's been the B! Catch ya on the flipside of Sundown! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/cool.gif



How about If You Could Read My Mind?

Cathy

[Borderstone]

Cathy,as Gomer Pyle used to say,"Thankya,thankya,thankya!" http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif Did ya have-ta post that part of my message? http://www.corfid.com/ubb/redface.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/redface.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/redface.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/redface.gif Gee whiz! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/wink.gif

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Borderstone (Also known as,"The B!")

[Iron]

Sit Down Young Stranger is one that comes to mind.Though I love the Lightfoot band and all they do,this one makes me feel like Gordon is just sittin a few feet away fingering on that Martin and telling me a story.He's singing but its almost like He's just talking to you in His normal voice.Gives me bumps..... Iron,,,,Chillin up.

[Cathy]

quote:Originally posted by Borderstone:
Cathy,as Gomer Pyle used to say,"Thankya,thankya,thankya!" http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif Did ya have-ta post that part of my message? http://www.corfid.com/ubb/redface.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/redface.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/redface.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/redface.gif Gee whiz! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/wink.gif



Hey, I just replied with your quote. I like to do that so people can tell which message I'm replying to.
Two more '70s songs for you: Miguel and Spanish Moss. Listen to those two. I love his voice in both of those songs.

Cathy

[fowlesjohn]

Thanks for your comments all, just listening to that version of Gord singing "Get Together" and while I don't remember this being anything big or fantasic for him, it really does show off his voice in a unique way.
GSS

[gwen snyder]

Thanks for your comments all, just listening to that version of Gord singing "Get Together" and while I don't remember this being anything big or fantasic for him, it really does show off his voice in a unique way.
GSS

[Tyler]

I like Lazy Mornin'

[brink]

I like Lazy Mornin'

[on-susan's-floor]

I know "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face" isn't Gordon's song, but the way he sings it is awe-inspiring to me. The texture of his beautiful voice and his perfect diction on that song just fascinate me, and I always have to listen to it over and over.
There are many others, too, including "Sit Down, Young Stranger" and "The Last Time I Saw Her".

[Brave Soul]

I know "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face" isn't Gordon's song, but the way he sings it is awe-inspiring to me. The texture of his beautiful voice and his perfect diction on that song just fascinate me, and I always have to listen to it over and over.
There are many others, too, including "Sit Down, Young Stranger" and "The Last Time I Saw Her".

[Borderstone]

Hey,Brave Soul! I was listening to my new CD of Gord's United Artists collection when I went to bed last night and just about every song on there qualifies in this very topic we're discussing! It's an awesome album and if you don't have it yet,go get it! Best Buy is you're Best Bet! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif It's been the B! Catch ya on the flipside of Sundown! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/cool.gif

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Borderstone (Also known as,"The B!")

[Cathy]

quote:Originally posted by Borderstone:
Hey,Brave Soul! I was listening to my new CD of Gord's United Artists collection when I went to bed last night and just about every song on there qualifies in this very topic we're discussing! It's an awesome album and if you don't have it yet,go get it! Best Buy is you're Best Bet! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif It's been the B! Catch ya on the flipside of Sundown! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/cool.gif



I remember when I bought the UA Collection, I played it in my car continously on the way to East Grand Lake in Central Maine. The car has a bit of a souped up stereo system in it, and I had it blaring. I ended up overheating the amp and couldn't play anything until it decided to come out of protection mode. And I'm not talking about when I was a teenager. This was just a few years ago. Darned kids and their loud music, huh?
I love the UA Collection. It is Gord, pure and simple, no frills attached.

Cathy

[Borderstone]

I agree with you Cathy,it's a spectacular collection and I'm surprised more artists' labels don't do this more often. I know in the past there have been cassettes that have 2 LP's in one but to get 4 LP's on 2 CD's is still a very unprecedented move for a label. One thing I found odd though was that they mentioned Sunday Concert but didn't include it. Was there no more room? I thought you could record a nearly endless amount of songs onto a CD. I may be wrong on that. I would like to get all of Gord's LP's on CD but as we know,I just got all the LP's. Sorry to hear about your car's stereo system. I can't imagine playing Gordon Lightfoot that loud. I volume # terms I almost never go past 3 or 4. I turn up to 10 only if I'm going to be in another room doing something else. Well,it's been the B! Catch ya on the flipside of Sundown! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/cool.gif

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Borderstone (Also known as,"The B!")

[Cathy]

I think the idea behind the UA Collection was to put his original albums on one set. Sunday Concert wasn't included because many of the songs were already included in the UA set. But, there are several great songs on Sunday Concert that aren't on any other CDs, and the Sunday Concert CD, especially Sunday Concert Plus, is a treasure to own, it being the only 'legal' live album.
And regarding the stereo volume. it was summer, the windows were down, and I was heading down some pretty desolate stretches or RT 1. So it was the perfect setting for cranking up Lightfoot tunes.

Cathy

[Tyler]

Cathy-I'm not familiar with the Sunday Concert plus, is that the one that has Sunday concert and another album together?

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[brink]

Cathy-I'm not familiar with the Sunday Concert plus, is that the one that has Sunday concert and another album together?

[This message has been edited by brink (edited June 08, 2003).]

[Cathy]

quote:Originally posted by brink:
Cathy-I'm not familiar with the Sunday Concert plus, is that the one that has Sunday concert and another album together?

[This message has been edited by brink (edited June 08, 2003).]

Sunday Concert plus has five bonus tracks: Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues
Two versions of Movin'
An alternate take of I'll Be Alright
The Nashville Version of Spin Spin
It also has more extensive liner notes and complete lyrics.
How do I know all of this, you ask?
I cheated. I looked on Wayne's site.

Cathy

[thimpin]

Apart from 'Voice Texture' I have always been impressed by Gordon's pronunciation. Listen out for the consonants, 't' & 'd' especially.
I can recall a female singer by name of Sandie Shaw. She had a big hit with the song 'Always Something There To Remind Me'. One of the lyrics is: 'How could I forget you'?
Sandie would sing: 'How could I forge choo'?

"This has been the 'D' Catch yer on Dream Street, Rose"

No, No, No http://www.corfid.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif

[Dermot Ology]

Apart from 'Voice Texture' I have always been impressed by Gordon's pronunciation. Listen out for the consonants, 't' & 'd' especially.
I can recall a female singer by name of Sandie Shaw. She had a big hit with the song 'Always Something There To Remind Me'. One of the lyrics is: 'How could I forget you'?
Sandie would sing: 'How could I forge choo'?

"This has been the 'D' Catch yer on Dream Street, Rose"

No, No, No http://www.corfid.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif

[joveski]

i must admit that the pronunciation bit did get over the top at times. take a listen to east of midnight for example.

detroit every nigh T
customs agents gave him fligh T
bedroll on the groun D
sleeping man was all that they foun D
let it ri DE

presented jenny linnnnnnnD

and the part in the title track which goes "deStination Sea of StormS" is also over the top. see what i mean? not taking anything away from the album cause it's one of my favouites but hearing every syllable does make me cringe sometimes

it's weird that his voice was quite muffled in the 60s on a lot of the songs whereas by the 80s you could hear every syllable.

[wsm2506]

I pretty much agree with "The B" here. But most of his older songs couldbe includd as well.
How about his cover of "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face"?

[Toano-Tide]

I pretty much agree with "The B" here. But most of his older songs couldbe includd as well.
How about his cover of "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face"?

[derbal]

quote:Originally posted by gwen snyder:
Softly...don't you guys think?
GSS

I agree. I think softly shows his voice the best of any of his songs.

[Some Mill In Wisconsin]

quote:Originally posted by gwen snyder:
Softly...don't you guys think?
GSS

I agree. I think softly shows his voice the best of any of his songs.

[Borderstone]

Actually,I think Gordon was the first person to record,"The F.T.E.I.Saw Your Face" which is simply called,"The First Time" on the Lightfoot! LP. I can't recall who wrote it just now but I'm almost sure that person gave it to Gord 1st. Thanks for your support T.Tide! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif It's not everyday I'm called a genius!! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif Just kiddzen! Catch ya on the flipside of Sundown! http://www.corfid.com/ubb/cool.gif

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Borderstone (Also known as,"The B!")

[Iron]

I think "Enunciation" is the word ..........ah 12345678...

Iron

[Cathy]

quote:Originally posted by joveski:
it's weird that his voice was quite muffled in the 60s on a lot of the songs whereas by the 80s you could hear every syllable.[/B]

Maybe that has something to do with recording technology getting more advanced. If I remember right, all his recordings beginning with Dream Street Rose were recorded digitally. And microphones got much more sensitive right about then, too.
As far as diction goes, if you take voice lessons, one of the first things you will learn is to make sure you don't chop off the final consonant in the last syllable of a word.
But I've noticed the same thing, especially on APPT.

Cathy http://www.cathycowete.com

[joveski]

i've noticed that the very clear enunciation began on Sundown but didn't really get very noticable till Shadows.

[thimpin]

Iron, me old mucker. We must be using different dictionarys.enunciatev.t. Express definitely (proposition, theory); proclaim; pronounce (words).

pronunciation n. Mode in which a word is pronounced; a person's way of pronouncing words.

Oops, I am starting to sound like the
Watchman. (No bad thing) http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

PS. [i]mucker[i/], an English slang word for friend or companion.

[Dermot Ology]

Iron, me old mucker. We must be using different dictionarys.enunciatev.t. Express definitely (proposition, theory); proclaim; pronounce (words).

pronunciation n. Mode in which a word is pronounced; a person's way of pronouncing words.

Oops, I am starting to sound like the
Watchman. (No bad thing) http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

PS. [i]mucker[i/], an English slang word for friend or companion.

[thimpin]

Oh dear, try again. mucker I knew I could do it http://www.corfid.com/ubb/redface.gif

[Dermot Ology]

Oh dear, try again. mucker I knew I could do it http://www.corfid.com/ubb/redface.gif

[Sundown17]

Well, Dermot, according to my dictionary Iron is correct in saying enunciation...1.To pronounce; esp. with clarity; articulate. Pronounciation is 1. To utter. Makes for a confusing world when we can't even depend on dictionaries to agree. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

Four years in college studying speech therapy taught me that enuciation means to speak clearly, give each letter in the word a voice.

Four years in high school choir, I was taught the same as Cathy. You don't chop off the end of a word. My choir director would make a spectacle of any one of us if he caught us "getting lazy", as he would call it, with the lyrics.

That is one of the things that stuck with me and one of the technical things that I admired about Gord.

[MotherofaMinersChild]

Well, Dermot, according to my dictionary Iron is correct in saying enunciation...1.To pronounce; esp. with clarity; articulate. Pronounciation is 1. To utter. Makes for a confusing world when we can't even depend on dictionaries to agree. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

Four years in college studying speech therapy taught me that enuciation means to speak clearly, give each letter in the word a voice.

Four years in high school choir, I was taught the same as Cathy. You don't chop off the end of a word. My choir director would make a spectacle of any one of us if he caught us "getting lazy", as he would call it, with the lyrics.

That is one of the things that stuck with me and one of the technical things that I admired about Gord.

[Sundown17]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by MotherofaMinersChild:

Four years in college studying speech therapy taught me that enuciation means to speak clearly, give each letter in the word a voice.

But sadly, it appears that four years in college failed to teach me how to spell or proofread.

That should say "enunciation". http://www.corfid.com/ubb/redface.gif

[MotherofaMinersChild]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by MotherofaMinersChild:

Four years in college studying speech therapy taught me that enuciation means to speak clearly, give each letter in the word a voice.

But sadly, it appears that four years in college failed to teach me how to spell or proofread.

That should say "enunciation". http://www.corfid.com/ubb/redface.gif

[thimpin]

Thank you Mother......

I think Iron and myself are both using the right word in our replies ie, his (Gordon's)articulation and enunciation are immaculate. That is the point I was attempting to make.

You may like to know, that your name is my current Gordon song of the moment, I will perform it to any audience I can find.

Borderstone: Ewan McColl wrote "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face" it is his best known song. He wrote it in 1962. For his wife, Peggy Seeger. Pete's sister. As Gordon's version was not released until 1966, I doubt if he was the first to record it. However the song came to international prominence when Clint Eastwood used Roberta Flack's version in his film 'Play Misty For Me' giving Roberta a world wide hit.

E&OE http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Dermot Ology]

Thank you Mother......

I think Iron and myself are both using the right word in our replies ie, his (Gordon's)articulation and enunciation are immaculate. That is the point I was attempting to make.

You may like to know, that your name is my current Gordon song of the moment, I will perform it to any audience I can find.

Borderstone: Ewan McColl wrote "The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face" it is his best known song. He wrote it in 1962. For his wife, Peggy Seeger. Pete's sister. As Gordon's version was not released until 1966, I doubt if he was the first to record it. However the song came to international prominence when Clint Eastwood used Roberta Flack's version in his film 'Play Misty For Me' giving Roberta a world wide hit.

E&OE http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

[rainydayperson]

Spanish Moss, The List

[classicmixdj]

Spanish Moss, The List

[Iron]

MUCKER....I liked that Ye ol Mucker....and thank You Mother for Your inpuT. I've always been very impressed with Gordon's ..nunciation. To each his/her own and what ever trips yer trigger but I don't think it's over the top at all...I think those T's and D's are cinnamon on pumpink pie. ...Just got a couple more CD's,one of them is Old Dan's,think Mother is going to be another "stuck",put it on the lisT..

Iron...

[P (for Penelope)]

The Last Time I Saw Her! Period. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

[P (for Penelope)]

The Last Time I Saw Her! Period. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif

[TheWatchman]

I like the ununseeatshun that Lightfoot uses. He talks like that as well. It really brings out his Canadian accent.

My only dislike is how they mixed the Dream Street Rose album. I thought that his voice should have been much more prominent instead of the instruments being so loud. They drown out his voice at times. I would like to have a copy of Shadows and Dream Street Rose with no instruments and just Gordon singing. Those albums contain some of his best vocals, yet they are drowned out a little too much. Not on all of the songs, just some of them.

I know that Gord sometimes sings softly, but they could have still brought the instruments down at times in the studio. He has the best voice of all time.

[BrightSide]

Seconded! I've said before that I didn't fully appreciate the caliber of artist Gord is for years because of the sheer aural beauty of his voice. I thought that with an instrument like that he must be an interpreter, like Linda Ronstadt or Tom Rush. I wasn't aware for years that he was a composer on the level of a Van Morrison (but more consistent in quality).

And mention of Morrison, with his bark of a voice, reminds me of another point. Dylan, too, usually sings with a voice that, back in the 60s, put one old folkie in mind of "a dog with his leg caught in barbed wire." But we *expect* that from them; we factor it in when we are listening--even appreciate and enjoy it. But what of Gord?

Can you think of any other singer who could *lose* that "sheer aural beauty" to such an extent as Gord has and keep (indeed, continue to add to, if this board is any indication) his audience? It's because his singing ability *today* (and, please God, tomorrow) is not dependent on the quality of the instrument; it draws on the skill in communicating (phrasing, etc.) he built up over the years. Plus, of course, the unparalled repertory he also built up over the years.

[MaryEllen]

Seconded! I've said before that I didn't fully appreciate the caliber of artist Gord is for years because of the sheer aural beauty of his voice. I thought that with an instrument like that he must be an interpreter, like Linda Ronstadt or Tom Rush. I wasn't aware for years that he was a composer on the level of a Van Morrison (but more consistent in quality).

And mention of Morrison, with his bark of a voice, reminds me of another point. Dylan, too, usually sings with a voice that, back in the 60s, put one old folkie in mind of "a dog with his leg caught in barbed wire." But we *expect* that from them; we factor it in when we are listening--even appreciate and enjoy it. But what of Gord?

Can you think of any other singer who could *lose* that "sheer aural beauty" to such an extent as Gord has and keep (indeed, continue to add to, if this board is any indication) his audience? It's because his singing ability *today* (and, please God, tomorrow) is not dependent on the quality of the instrument; it draws on the skill in communicating (phrasing, etc.) he built up over the years. Plus, of course, the unparalled repertory he also built up over the years.

[TheWatchman]

I think that Gord has such a good following today because of loyalty from his fans. His voice is at best only a snapshot of what it was in the 70's and early 80's, yet we still know exactly who it is when he sings the first words to a song. Still a good voice today, but when in his prime, he was the best of the best and will go down in history accordingly because of that voice.

Many can write great lyrics. Many can write great music. Many even have great voices. But very, very few can write their own music, lyrics and possess the ability to play that music so effortlessly on an instrument and still have the best voice in music to go along with it. That's probably why he is referred to as "the musician's musician" among his peers.