Chat Friday night .....

[mercedes]

Mr Fowles. :)

I'm assuming the inability to engage in chat last night was a matter beyond your (or any other member's) control as the server was (and still is, at the time of composing this message) unable to establish a connection.

Could you please advise what actions you're contemplating taking to rectify this "communication breakdown" ?

Silence from my neighbours 17 feet away is always welcome .... an enforced silence from my sisters and brothers in the North Country(ies) 17,000 miles away is not.

Michael ... :D

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by Mike Dixon:
I'm assuming the inability to engage in chat last night was a matter beyond your (or any other member's) control this "communication breakdown" ?
As you so rightly assumed Michael it was not my fault.
I expect that our Internet relay Chat server is having a major problem as trying to open
http://www.dilexnet.net/
is still not possible nearly 24 hours later
Last night it was not possible to access our channel using either mIRC or the browser Java applet method.
As I told Laurel
due to recent getting in problems and the demise of the applet method that will WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT affect every owner of a new or Windows XP Service pack 2 upgraded machine that does not have the spyware prone Microsoft Java Virtual Machine or its better original from Sun Microsystems,I was already determined to try to find another IRC server. so will try to do so next week
John Fowles

Oh well poor Bill will have to play with himself tonight and tomorrow afternoon!!

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by Mike Dixon:
I'm assuming the inability to engage in chat last night was a matter beyond your (or any other member's) control this "communication breakdown" ?
As you so rightly assumed Michael it was not my fault.
I expect that our Internet relay Chat server is having a major problem as trying to open
http://www.dilexnet.net/
is still not possible nearly 24 hours later
Last night it was not possible to access our channel using either mIRC or the browser Java applet method.
As I told Laurel
due to recent getting in problems and the demise of the applet method that will WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT affect every owner of a new or Windows XP Service pack 2 upgraded machine that does not have the spyware prone Microsoft Java Virtual Machine or its better original from Sun Microsystems,I was already determined to try to find another IRC server. so will try to do so next week
John Fowles

Oh well poor Bill will have to play with himself tonight and tomorrow afternoon!!

[charlene]

Oh well poor Bill will have to play with himself tonight and tomorrow afternoon!!

OH MY!!!
Sir John!!!!!!
I'm blushing!
lol
;)

[charlene]

Oh well poor Bill will have to play with himself tonight and tomorrow afternoon!!

OH MY!!!
Sir John!!!!!!
I'm blushing!
lol
;)

[mercedes]

Thanks John,

I'm not sure whether it can be all tied to the XP associated issues you raised in your final paragraph, but that is largely irrelevant in any event given the search for another server.

I should have mentioned that I did gain access to the room on my third attempt, but I exited shortly thereafter given I was the only attendee.

Not that I don't mind my own company, but even I have my limits.

Michael

[brink-]

I had gotten in around 7:20 MST and then was emailing with Sharron and Laurel but they couldn't get in. I left and then was unable to get back in.

[charlene]

I never tried as I was too pooped to get my arse off the couch.....
lol
;)

[charlene]

I never tried as I was too pooped to get my arse off the couch.....
lol
;)

[brink-]

Originally posted by charlene:
I never tried as I was too pooped to get my arse off the couch.....
lol
;) Watching a video tape? lol

[charlene]

watched it over and over and over......
ha!
ya know - I, as moderator do not know how to get that "originally posted" thing in my posts....sad eh?
lol

[charlene]

watched it over and over and over......
ha!
ya know - I, as moderator do not know how to get that "originally posted" thing in my posts....sad eh?
lol

[brink-]

psst Char, click on "quote" then type under it. shhhh.

[Iron]

I smell a rebate..

[charlene]

Originally posted by Iron:
I smell a rebate.. omigod it worked!
lolol
6 years and i've never known what the heck that was for!
lolol
too funny!

[charlene]

Originally posted by Iron:
I smell a rebate.. omigod it worked!
lolol
6 years and i've never known what the heck that was for!
lolol
too funny!

[brink-]

lol good job Char

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by charlene:
[QUOTE]omigod it worked!
lolol
6 years and i've never known what the heck that was for!
lolol
too funny! Also to be sure you have used the quote facility correctly you can if you look carefully spot a great "preview" option. do you use that ever??
that was part of Florian's worthwhile changes last year and is especially useful when displaying pictures. you can also check that hyperlinks are appearing correctly
JohnFowles
The preview system works for private messages too.You do know aboat them don't you??
And it even works when and if you have to edit a message. Magic!!

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by charlene:
[QUOTE]omigod it worked!
lolol
6 years and i've never known what the heck that was for!
lolol
too funny! Also to be sure you have used the quote facility correctly you can if you look carefully spot a great "preview" option. do you use that ever??
that was part of Florian's worthwhile changes last year and is especially useful when displaying pictures. you can also check that hyperlinks are appearing correctly
JohnFowles
The preview system works for private messages too.You do know aboat them don't you??
And it even works when and if you have to edit a message. Magic!!

[charlene]

Sir John...if I knew about them I wouldn't need you any longer....
;)
and my life would be sadder...more efficient possibly,, but sadder...
lol

[charlene]

Sir John...if I knew about them I wouldn't need you any longer....
;)
and my life would be sadder...more efficient possibly,, but sadder...
lol

[Iron]

Originally posted by charlene:
Sir John...if I knew about them I wouldn't need you any longer....
;)
and my life would be sadder...more efficient possibly,, but sadder...
lol It does work.Psst,Deb,Thanks...

[brink-]

Originally posted by Iron:
It does work.Psst,Deb,Thanks...

;)

[johnfowles]

just checked the dilex site and now it says
"Hello,

The Dilex-Networks Homepage is currently down. Please check back at another time. If you have any questions feel free to contact us at dilexnet at wolfnix dot net or irc.dilexnet.net channel #lobby

Dilex-Network Staff "
I have not received any response to an email I sent to my contact there
OK at 212.24 PM EST the home page is down but the mirc entry is working again
Meanwhile Anne brilliantly did OK and after some searching shed found a FREE alternative room that worked pretty well on Friday and as it uses Javascript it obviates the twin problems of having to use mIRC or a Java applet that my existing room requires.
One very nice feature is a "visitor list" I was able to log on later on Sunday and found this record of notable chatters.
http://h1.ripway.com/corfid/johnfowles/chatzy_visitor_list_as_at_10PM_EST_on_Sunday_9_Apr il_2006.jpg

Visitor list as at 10PM EST on Sunday 9 April_2006
I am very tempted to say OK let's adopt this room from now on. But old habits die hard so I will think about it for a while maybe we should discuss the matter this coming Friday.evening
I will annonce access details myself on Friday morning in s new topic
Thanks again Anne
John fowles
But I searched for chatzy mirc and found some adverse reaction to the chatzy system for example this at:-
http://www.narutorealm.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t95.html
"too many people complained about chatzy"

[johnfowles]

just checked the dilex site and now it says
"Hello,

The Dilex-Networks Homepage is currently down. Please check back at another time. If you have any questions feel free to contact us at dilexnet at wolfnix dot net or irc.dilexnet.net channel #lobby

Dilex-Network Staff "
I have not received any response to an email I sent to my contact there
OK at 212.24 PM EST the home page is down but the mirc entry is working again
Meanwhile Anne brilliantly did OK and after some searching shed found a FREE alternative room that worked pretty well on Friday and as it uses Javascript it obviates the twin problems of having to use mIRC or a Java applet that my existing room requires.
One very nice feature is a "visitor list" I was able to log on later on Sunday and found this record of notable chatters.
http://h1.ripway.com/corfid/johnfowles/chatzy_visitor_list_as_at_10PM_EST_on_Sunday_9_Apr il_2006.jpg

Visitor list as at 10PM EST on Sunday 9 April_2006
I am very tempted to say OK let's adopt this room from now on. But old habits die hard so I will think about it for a while maybe we should discuss the matter this coming Friday.evening
I will annonce access details myself on Friday morning in s new topic
Thanks again Anne
John fowles
But I searched for chatzy mirc and found some adverse reaction to the chatzy system for example this at:-
http://www.narutorealm.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t95.html
"too many people complained about chatzy"

[brink-]

Where can we log our complaints about mIRC?

[Sheryl]

Can we establish a chat room on corfid somehow?

[Sydney Steve]

I like John's Chatzy photo very much .

It depicts most of the chatters in grey while I am in colour. Most appropriate !
Chatzy is clearly very sophisticated as it highlights the brighter personalities (eg John and I ) in bold colours , and depicts those of a dreary disposition in grey. :D :D :D

[Cathy]

Who is Delusional? He's in green.

[brink-]

Cathy,
Delusional is Sydney Steve. Trust me he is delusional too, he thinks he's a treasure. lol

[talbot10]

Originally posted by brink-:
Cathy,
Delusional is Sydney Steve. Trust me he is delusional too, he thinks he's a treasure. lol And Cathy,
Stevo has a great ass for a guy! that is why we all love him. not that there is anything wrong with it.

[Iron]

I wondered why anyone would assume the handle of "Delusional"...After a couple times in the "chat" ,I understood quite well,when the shoe fits...lol Hope things work Fri. night,sure missed the noctornal family of nuts...I was sorta lost without Ya's...

[kaydee]

Originally posted by johnfowles:
But I searched for chatzy mirc and found some adverse reaction to the chatzy system for example this at:-
http://www.narutorealm.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t95.html
"too many people complained about chatzy" Help John! I can't get the link to work. It just comes up with a 404 error. Any ideas?

I'd like to learn more about the Chatzy system and have more of an understanding about it. Like anything, I'm sure it has cons and pros.

[AnneOK]

Originally posted by johnfowles:
But I searched for chatzy mirc and found some adverse reaction to the chatzy system for example this at:-
http://www.narutorealm.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t95.html
"too many people complained about chatzy" Help John! I can't get the link to work. It just comes up with a 404 error. Any ideas?

I'd like to learn more about the Chatzy system and have more of an understanding about it. Like anything, I'm sure it has cons and pros.

[Cathy]

I get a 404 error, too.

If Delusional is Sidney Steve, who the heck is Michael?

[mercedes]

Cathy,

That would be me .... Michael Dixon ... one of the Australians who enjoys immensely, the company of "chat" and the one who initiated this thread.

[mnmouse]

Originally posted by Cathy:
Who is Delusional? Um, is that a trick question? :)

[charlene]

Cathy - I think at times we are all guilty of being delusional - for some it's a permanent state of mind tho......
:)

[charlene]

Cathy - I think at times we are all guilty of being delusional - for some it's a permanent state of mind tho......
:)

[Cathy]

I never used to have problems remembering who was who. Now it seems like there are a hundred new people on this site!

[johnfowles]

OK OK yer tis here is the link to the alternative Gordon Lightfoot Chat Room that AnneOK has organised
http://www.chatzy.com/885842072610 simply:-
1.click that link
2.enter your nickname.
3.Select the colo(u)r that you would like your text entries to appear in then
3.enter this password Harmony.
but note that the password is case sensitive so make sure you use a capital "H'.
"harmony" all in lower case will not cut the mustard.
Time 9 pm EST this evening
I never heard back from my contact at:-http://www.dilexnet.net
And trying the site now one is still informed
"The Dilex-Networks Homepage is currently down."
Yet using my famous red button link on my site:-
http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/LIGHTFOOT/chat/
works a treat albeit opening the channel with the aid of mIRC.Sorry but I cannot use Java applets now myself on my new windows XP setup
So I do not know if entry by that method is again possible.
I suggest those who can try and want to chat evaluate the "chatzy" experience this week then we can dicuss and decide whether to continue with it or revert to the older method,
Bearing in mind that at least one of the regulars has an irrational dislike of mIRC, I have to say to the point of being on the brink of a nervous breakdown so to speak, and as far as I can tell the certainty that as more and more chatters get the later Windows with the Microsoft Java Virtual Machine omitted means the forthcoming end of using the relatively simple Java Applet entry method.I will when the dust has settled edit my chat page at:-
http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/LIGHTFOOT/chat/
John Fowles
One final point. the chatzy room uses Javascript (not directly related to Java despite the confusing choice of name).
If the chatzy room fails to open it is probably due to you or your computer's administrator turning off Javascript in your browser's options due to the perceived security risk.If so use your browser's help to find out how to restore Javascript handling

[johnfowles]

OK OK yer tis here is the link to the alternative Gordon Lightfoot Chat Room that AnneOK has organised
http://www.chatzy.com/885842072610 simply:-
1.click that link
2.enter your nickname.
3.Select the colo(u)r that you would like your text entries to appear in then
3.enter this password Harmony.
but note that the password is case sensitive so make sure you use a capital "H'.
"harmony" all in lower case will not cut the mustard.
Time 9 pm EST this evening
I never heard back from my contact at:-http://www.dilexnet.net
And trying the site now one is still informed
"The Dilex-Networks Homepage is currently down."
Yet using my famous red button link on my site:-
http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/LIGHTFOOT/chat/
works a treat albeit opening the channel with the aid of mIRC.Sorry but I cannot use Java applets now myself on my new windows XP setup
So I do not know if entry by that method is again possible.
I suggest those who can try and want to chat evaluate the "chatzy" experience this week then we can dicuss and decide whether to continue with it or revert to the older method,
Bearing in mind that at least one of the regulars has an irrational dislike of mIRC, I have to say to the point of being on the brink of a nervous breakdown so to speak, and as far as I can tell the certainty that as more and more chatters get the later Windows with the Microsoft Java Virtual Machine omitted means the forthcoming end of using the relatively simple Java Applet entry method.I will when the dust has settled edit my chat page at:-
http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/LIGHTFOOT/chat/
John Fowles
One final point. the chatzy room uses Javascript (not directly related to Java despite the confusing choice of name).
If the chatzy room fails to open it is probably due to you or your computer's administrator turning off Javascript in your browser's options due to the perceived security risk.If so use your browser's help to find out how to restore Javascript handling

[brink-]

I'm not irrational about my dislike, I have just joined the band - so to speak. We get tired of getting booted out. Char got booted no less than 11 times one night. The only one who hasn't has been your buddy Sydney Steve - tell me that isn't weird.

[LSH]

I already have the drums, you'll have to pick a different instrument...

[Iron]

John,
Though I had to go to the Favs.,I seemed to get into the mIRK site. Tried the new one also,it seems a bit slower,which works for me.Last week we had none,looks like maybe We'll have an alternate tonight...

[DJ in MJ]

Thanks to all who gave me a warm welcome back during Friday's chat. Life has more or less returned to abnormal (loooong story) and hopefully I can begin posting more regularly again.

As for the chats, I only work the Friday night shift one week of every five, but I'll do my best to drop in when things are quiet on my end.

Love and kisses to all.... :D

[charlene]

love and kisses to you too!!
;)
char

[charlene]

love and kisses to you too!!
;)
char

[brink-]

David it was great to "see" you again. We look forward to you being back again.

[DJ in MJ]

Thanks, Char. You are a delight as ever.

And a big thanks to Brink and Laurel for the laughs during the chat. That was more entertaining than the last few books I've read!

[LSH]

welcome back david...good to see you posting again..and back in chat! We all look forward to having you in there as often as you can make it!
(brink lives to entertain...)

[charlene]

Laurel - are you sure Brink doesn't entertain to live???

oh dear....
;)

[charlene]

Laurel - are you sure Brink doesn't entertain to live???

oh dear....
;)

[brink-]

I am taking lessons from Char.

[DJ in MJ]

You've learned your lessons well, B, and Char is obviously a fine teacher! :D

[mercedes]

David,

Good to meet you my friend ... I've always enjoyed your messages on the board. You have the best in company with all of the chat "group".

Michael

[DJ in MJ]

Thanks, Mike. I'm happy to be back. Corfid is easily one of the best boards I've ever joined.

[johnfowles]

OK OK
we will NOT be in chat this evening because we will be sitting (holding our binoculars and noses) in the very back row of the circle at
the State Theater in New Brunswick NJ hoping to be able to see Peter Yarrow, Noel Paul Stookey and Mary Travers in concert.
http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/LIGHTFOOT/PPM_EMR.jpg
PP&M singing "Early Morning Rain" in 1966
I think this will be a first for me (although we did see "Peter and Paul" at Oceon Grove NJ last summer) see my report at:-
http://www.corfid.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=003392#000000
and I passed the trio at London Airport on 6 april 1966 as I was about to walk out to my plane to Montreal and they were
arriving for UK concerts.
Anyway last week I had a terrible lag problem in Anne's "Chatzy" room.
And I resolved to try to find another alternative Javascript based set up to add to my own web site.I had already found another free Javascript based room setup at:-
http://www.qwadchat.com
and had tried it out a bit.I especially liked its ability to use HTML and had made a screenshot showing that I could display in the chatroom my own picture
http://h1.ripway.com/johnfowles/lightfoot/html_chat_picture.jpg
screenshot made on April 19th in fact
But on that occasion I just could not simulate two chatters chatting together
This week I got as far as using the room by 2 computers each on separate telephine lines and two dufferent ISPs and made this screenshot
http://h1.ripway.com/johnfowles/lightfoot/2_in_room.jpg
but could again not get the text from both of myself to appear at the same time on both monitors.
But as you can see it shows promise.
It requires just one simple link html file only
I will try again next week because th greatadvantage of using Javascript is of course that it then obviates the need to install either mIRC or, after upgrading to a non-Java Virtual Machine equipped browser, the large Sun Microsytems Java Runtime file in order to use our previous great dilexnet.net room
Ok so we will be missing the fun later today, but no doubt other regulars will be at:-
http://www.chatzy.com/885842072610 :-
revised more complete intructions are simply:-
1.click that link
2.enter your nickname.
3.Select the colo(u)r that you would like your text entries to appear in then
3.enter this password Harmony.
but note that the password is case sensitive so make sure you use a capital "H'.
"harmony" all in lower case will not cut the mustard.
4 press the "enter room" button
5 the room should open
6.ignore the "write message" button (whatever you write disappears after you ....)
7 Press the "join chat" button instead
8 then type your opening salutation in the box at the bottom
9 press the"OK" button
at 9pm EST this evening
Have fun
John Fowles
P.S.After his magnum opus at:-
http://www.corfid.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=000176;p=1#0000 37
I reckon Steve Dunbar (geodeticman) will fit in well and could then chat to his fellow colo(u)radans Brink and Coloradosue if they are in

[ April 28, 2006, 15:24: Message edited by: johnfowles ]

[johnfowles]

OK OK
we will NOT be in chat this evening because we will be sitting (holding our binoculars and noses) in the very back row of the circle at
the State Theater in New Brunswick NJ hoping to be able to see Peter Yarrow, Noel Paul Stookey and Mary Travers in concert.
http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/LIGHTFOOT/PPM_EMR.jpg
PP&M singing "Early Morning Rain" in 1966
I think this will be a first for me (although we did see "Peter and Paul" at Oceon Grove NJ last summer) see my report at:-
http://www.corfid.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=003392#000000
and I passed the trio at London Airport on 6 april 1966 as I was about to walk out to my plane to Montreal and they were
arriving for UK concerts.
Anyway last week I had a terrible lag problem in Anne's "Chatzy" room.
And I resolved to try to find another alternative Javascript based set up to add to my own web site.I had already found another free Javascript based room setup at:-
http://www.qwadchat.com
and had tried it out a bit.I especially liked its ability to use HTML and had made a screenshot showing that I could display in the chatroom my own picture
http://h1.ripway.com/johnfowles/lightfoot/html_chat_picture.jpg
screenshot made on April 19th in fact
But on that occasion I just could not simulate two chatters chatting together
This week I got as far as using the room by 2 computers each on separate telephine lines and two dufferent ISPs and made this screenshot
http://h1.ripway.com/johnfowles/lightfoot/2_in_room.jpg
but could again not get the text from both of myself to appear at the same time on both monitors.
But as you can see it shows promise.
It requires just one simple link html file only
I will try again next week because th greatadvantage of using Javascript is of course that it then obviates the need to install either mIRC or, after upgrading to a non-Java Virtual Machine equipped browser, the large Sun Microsytems Java Runtime file in order to use our previous great dilexnet.net room
Ok so we will be missing the fun later today, but no doubt other regulars will be at:-
http://www.chatzy.com/885842072610 :-
revised more complete intructions are simply:-
1.click that link
2.enter your nickname.
3.Select the colo(u)r that you would like your text entries to appear in then
3.enter this password Harmony.
but note that the password is case sensitive so make sure you use a capital "H'.
"harmony" all in lower case will not cut the mustard.
4 press the "enter room" button
5 the room should open
6.ignore the "write message" button (whatever you write disappears after you ....)
7 Press the "join chat" button instead
8 then type your opening salutation in the box at the bottom
9 press the"OK" button
at 9pm EST this evening
Have fun
John Fowles
P.S.After his magnum opus at:-
http://www.corfid.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=000176;p=1#0000 37
I reckon Steve Dunbar (geodeticman) will fit in well and could then chat to his fellow colo(u)radans Brink and Coloradosue if they are in

[ April 28, 2006, 15:24: Message edited by: johnfowles ]

[bjorn]

I recieved the following message when clicking on the link John...
Page Not Found
We are sorry - the page you are looking for could not be found on our server.

Perhaps you misspelled the address or followed an invalid link.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Perhaps you might want to recheck it and post again.

[Sundreme]

I recieved the following message when clicking on the link John...
Page Not Found
We are sorry - the page you are looking for could not be found on our server.

Perhaps you misspelled the address or followed an invalid link.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Perhaps you might want to recheck it and post again.

[johnfowles]

Very strange Erika
I found the same but it was NOT really my fault
but due to some vagary of the otherwise splendid system this board uses to show hyperlinks
as originally typed I had the :- immediately after the final 0 in the correct URL that I had
in fact copied and pasted "as is" from my earlier posting then the corfid board decided
unilaterally that it might be fun to include :- in the hyperlink which promptly cocks it up.I have now edited it and all will be well
correct hyperlink
http://www.chatzy.com/885842072610
incorrect
http://www.chatzy.com/885842072610:-
John
Thanks for checking and pointing this out
I will be more careful in future!

[johnfowles]

Very strange Erika
I found the same but it was NOT really my fault
but due to some vagary of the otherwise splendid system this board uses to show hyperlinks
as originally typed I had the :- immediately after the final 0 in the correct URL that I had
in fact copied and pasted "as is" from my earlier posting then the corfid board decided
unilaterally that it might be fun to include :- in the hyperlink which promptly cocks it up.I have now edited it and all will be well
correct hyperlink
http://www.chatzy.com/885842072610
incorrect
http://www.chatzy.com/885842072610:-
John
Thanks for checking and pointing this out
I will be more careful in future!

[<My Dad's Suggestion>]

So I see you all are having trouble with getting a chat started...I believe mirc is the best possible way for you to gain the connectivity for everyone.

I would suggest actually downloading the client (if you have already done this, good), you can obtain it @ http://www.mirc.org.

Make sure to write down the install directory you saved the install program in. Now click on the Start Button, then the "Run..." button. Now click on Browse, navigate to the directory you installed "mirc617.exe". Select it, no click on "Ok" This will install the program.

After it is installed, a link on your desktop should appear. Double click on the mIRC32 Icon. This will start the program.

Once the program loads; click the evaluate button and start your 30day trial. (Once the trial is over, the program will still function, the donation is only a request if you find it useful)

In my next steps I include links to screenshots I have provided to help navigate through this process.

1. Next goto File &gt; Select Server
1. http://djbry.temp.powweb.com/mirc0.jpg

2. Once that dialog is open, Select Random EFNET server from the drop downlist (EFNET is the most reliable and often used network to connect to IRC)
2. http://djbry.temp.powweb.com/mirc1.jpg

3. Now on the left side menu select the option of Connect (It should have a minus sign next to it). The screen on the right will change to let you select your "NickName" and what not. Fill in the options as you deem appropriate.
3. http://djbry.temp.powweb.com/mirc1_5.jpg

4. Now click on the "Connect to Server" button located directly under the information you just entered. (it has the firework button next to it :)
4. http://djbry.temp.powweb.com/mirc2.jpg

5. Now you will be connected to EFNET Irc network.

6. When the window pops up and you are connected, the is an entry box located at the bottom of the screen. Use the command "/j #whatever you want" to join a channel (chat room). I have included an example of "/j #gordon_lightfoot_chat" Then press the "Enter" key.
6. http://djbry.temp.powweb.com/mirc3.jpg

7. Now you will have joined the channel "#gordon_lightfoot_chat" on the EFNET IRC Network.
7. http://djbry.temp.powweb.com/mirc4.jpg

8. Now you can double click anywhere in the channel window and the operator menu will come up. You can there change the topic, member allowments, etc. The box on the right of the channel screen shows the users currently involved in the chat. If you have an "@" next to your nick name you have the option to change these settings. The first one who gets to the chat (or starts it) will have operator status ... as this is called. You can give other people the same status with the "/+o nickname" command in the bottom section (where you would type the text you wish to send to the chat room.
8. http://djbry.temp.powweb.com/mirc5.jpg

9. Now if everyone connects to the "EFNET" network, and you agree on a time and channel name. Everyone who wants will beable to connect and participate! Remember "/j #" or "/join #" command will get you to the channel you want! A Channel must always include the "#" pound sign before it.
Refer to my images for the correct place and how to enter it".

I hope this helps.

[<My Dad's Suggestion>]

So I see you all are having trouble with getting a chat started...I believe mirc is the best possible way for you to gain the connectivity for everyone.

I would suggest actually downloading the client (if you have already done this, good), you can obtain it @ http://www.mirc.org.

Make sure to write down the install directory you saved the install program in. Now click on the Start Button, then the "Run..." button. Now click on Browse, navigate to the directory you installed "mirc617.exe". Select it, no click on "Ok" This will install the program.

After it is installed, a link on your desktop should appear. Double click on the mIRC32 Icon. This will start the program.

Once the program loads; click the evaluate button and start your 30day trial. (Once the trial is over, the program will still function, the donation is only a request if you find it useful)

In my next steps I include links to screenshots I have provided to help navigate through this process.

1. Next goto File &gt; Select Server
1. http://djbry.temp.powweb.com/mirc0.jpg

2. Once that dialog is open, Select Random EFNET server from the drop downlist (EFNET is the most reliable and often used network to connect to IRC)
2. http://djbry.temp.powweb.com/mirc1.jpg

3. Now on the left side menu select the option of Connect (It should have a minus sign next to it). The screen on the right will change to let you select your "NickName" and what not. Fill in the options as you deem appropriate.
3. http://djbry.temp.powweb.com/mirc1_5.jpg

4. Now click on the "Connect to Server" button located directly under the information you just entered. (it has the firework button next to it :)
4. http://djbry.temp.powweb.com/mirc2.jpg

5. Now you will be connected to EFNET Irc network.

6. When the window pops up and you are connected, the is an entry box located at the bottom of the screen. Use the command "/j #whatever you want" to join a channel (chat room). I have included an example of "/j #gordon_lightfoot_chat" Then press the "Enter" key.
6. http://djbry.temp.powweb.com/mirc3.jpg

7. Now you will have joined the channel "#gordon_lightfoot_chat" on the EFNET IRC Network.
7. http://djbry.temp.powweb.com/mirc4.jpg

8. Now you can double click anywhere in the channel window and the operator menu will come up. You can there change the topic, member allowments, etc. The box on the right of the channel screen shows the users currently involved in the chat. If you have an "@" next to your nick name you have the option to change these settings. The first one who gets to the chat (or starts it) will have operator status ... as this is called. You can give other people the same status with the "/+o nickname" command in the bottom section (where you would type the text you wish to send to the chat room.
8. http://djbry.temp.powweb.com/mirc5.jpg

9. Now if everyone connects to the "EFNET" network, and you agree on a time and channel name. Everyone who wants will beable to connect and participate! Remember "/j #" or "/join #" command will get you to the channel you want! A Channel must always include the "#" pound sign before it.
Refer to my images for the correct place and how to enter it".

I hope this helps.

[<My Dad's Suggestion>]

As an afterthought...

After you have installed IRC and completed steps 1-3, and you are using Internet Explorer as your browser...

click on this link --&gt; irc://irc.efnet.net/gordon_lightfoot_chat (http://irc://irc.efnet.net/gordon_lightfoot_chat)

Mirc will open and a dialog like this :
http://djbry.temp.powweb.com/mirc6.jpg
will open up. Click on "OK". It will automatically connect you to the EFNET network and join the channel "#gordon_lightfoot_chat" ...

Also forgot to mention that a channel name may contain NO SPACES! :)

Hope this helped as well.

[<My Dad's Suggestion>]

As an afterthought...

After you have installed IRC and completed steps 1-3, and you are using Internet Explorer as your browser...

click on this link --&gt; irc://irc.efnet.net/gordon_lightfoot_chat (http://irc://irc.efnet.net/gordon_lightfoot_chat)

Mirc will open and a dialog like this :
http://djbry.temp.powweb.com/mirc6.jpg
will open up. Click on "OK". It will automatically connect you to the EFNET network and join the channel "#gordon_lightfoot_chat" ...

Also forgot to mention that a channel name may contain NO SPACES! :)

Hope this helped as well.

[brink-]

Hi My Dad's Suggestion - I agree the term "EFNET" would sum up my and many, many others feelings about mIRC.
Actually, MDS, the Chatzy room has been quite nice to use. There isn't the constant random booting out of chatters and it is always available, unlike the mIRC that is down often. Come join the group, lots of laughs and good times.

[<My Dad's Suggestion>]

Well, I tried that link "irc://irc.efnet.net/gordon_lightfoot_chat"

and since the ultimebb url code automatically adds http:// to the fron of it, it will not work as a clickable link. Just copy and paste -

irc://irc.efnet.net/gordon_lightfoot_chat

-into the URL slot of Internet explorer and press Enter. This will achieve the desired effect. Thanks.

[<My Dad's Suggestion>]

Well, I tried that link "irc://irc.efnet.net/gordon_lightfoot_chat"

and since the ultimebb url code automatically adds http:// to the fron of it, it will not work as a clickable link. Just copy and paste -

irc://irc.efnet.net/gordon_lightfoot_chat

-into the URL slot of Internet explorer and press Enter. This will achieve the desired effect. Thanks.

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by &lt;My Dad's Suggestion&gt;:
Well, I tried that link "irc://irc.efnet.net/gordon_lightfoot_chat"

and since the ultimebb url code automatically adds http:// to the fron of it, it will not work as a clickable link. Just copy and paste -

irc://irc.efnet.net/gordon_lightfoot_chat

-into the URL slot of Internet explorer and press Enter. This will achieve the desired effect. Thanks. Yes Yes Father.
Whilst I thoroughly appreciate your attempts to help regarding mIRC,I have to tell you that I have already overcome that particular hurdle as fully nay some might rudely/crudely say exhaustively explained in the earlier topic on the Friday chat
at:-
http://www.corfid.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=003574#000000
in particular see my posting on January the 28th
whthere you can see that I eventually succeded in making a forwarding URL
http://lnk.in/37sd
that opens
irc://irc.dilexnet.net:6667/gordonlightfootchat
which is the equivalent of your
irc://irc.efnet.net/gordon_lightfoot_chat
but using a different chat server (see below)
I have tried to provide a lucid description of the options on my "chat"page at:-
http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/LIGHTFOOT/chat/
and beyond that I will now review where we are now at.
Basically going back to 1997 the original chat room guru (Rik Stevens)had contrived to set it up so that the simplest method of access was a Java applet (originally jpilot).
He also discovered mIRC and much effort was spent trying to get every chatter to carry out
the elementary and straightforward task of installing it.
Then a few years ago the IRC server he was using cjb.net gave up the struggle against internet hooligans,and as I had a vested interest in keeping it going (without IRC I would most certainly have died in 2000)
I looked round to find a replacement google kindly showed me "the world's worst" website at:-
http://www.worlds-worst-website.com/html/chat/chat2.html
which had not only a Java applet
which I very soon diagnosed was the free jwirc applet
but also a link called intriguingly
"mIRC Direct Link" which led to:-
irc://irc.dilexnet.net:6667/wwwchat
whre wwwchat was their IRC "channel"
so without realy then or now fully understanding how IRC worked I adapted it for our use.
the icing was put on the cake when one evening I was joined by a most helpful guy from the dilexnet organisation Brian "brut" Tomjack. He not only helped me register the channel etc but was able to tell me that dilexnet also had its own Java applet and gave me the URL to use it.I was then in the delightful position of being able to offer not only two distinctly
different Java applets but due to my earlier experience in the original room I could write up how to configure mIRC from scratch plus of course now had the bonus of a direct URL to automatically open and configure mIRC.
all was hunky dory for a long time until for reasons I never got to the bottom of the dilexnet applet would no longer function, then quite recently nobody could get in using dilexnet by either method.I have just checked and now "The Dilex-Networks Homepage is currently down" but it looks like their IRC channels are still functional
in the meantime Anne from OK had found chatzy chat which as it uses Javascript avoids the twin problems of
1. the non inclusuion of a Java Virtual Machine in new computers running Windows XP
And
2. the continuing reluctance of many delightful fans to get to grips with mIRC
(plus considerable prejudice even hatred/dislike against it due to its alleged propensity to "boot" people out, not true by my own experiences.) On the other hand the Javascript "chatzy" room has been having severe "lagging" problems so I for one am not prepared to tolerate that
I will summarise my latest Javascript research tomorrow but as Laurel said and seems to have now deleted
"mIRC is working" so I propose we use mIRC tomorrow for the regular Friday evening session at 9pm EST

John Fowles

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by &lt;My Dad's Suggestion&gt;:
Well, I tried that link "irc://irc.efnet.net/gordon_lightfoot_chat"

and since the ultimebb url code automatically adds http:// to the fron of it, it will not work as a clickable link. Just copy and paste -

irc://irc.efnet.net/gordon_lightfoot_chat

-into the URL slot of Internet explorer and press Enter. This will achieve the desired effect. Thanks. Yes Yes Father.
Whilst I thoroughly appreciate your attempts to help regarding mIRC,I have to tell you that I have already overcome that particular hurdle as fully nay some might rudely/crudely say exhaustively explained in the earlier topic on the Friday chat
at:-
http://www.corfid.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=003574#000000
in particular see my posting on January the 28th
whthere you can see that I eventually succeded in making a forwarding URL
http://lnk.in/37sd
that opens
irc://irc.dilexnet.net:6667/gordonlightfootchat
which is the equivalent of your
irc://irc.efnet.net/gordon_lightfoot_chat
but using a different chat server (see below)
I have tried to provide a lucid description of the options on my "chat"page at:-
http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/LIGHTFOOT/chat/
and beyond that I will now review where we are now at.
Basically going back to 1997 the original chat room guru (Rik Stevens)had contrived to set it up so that the simplest method of access was a Java applet (originally jpilot).
He also discovered mIRC and much effort was spent trying to get every chatter to carry out
the elementary and straightforward task of installing it.
Then a few years ago the IRC server he was using cjb.net gave up the struggle against internet hooligans,and as I had a vested interest in keeping it going (without IRC I would most certainly have died in 2000)
I looked round to find a replacement google kindly showed me "the world's worst" website at:-
http://www.worlds-worst-website.com/html/chat/chat2.html
which had not only a Java applet
which I very soon diagnosed was the free jwirc applet
but also a link called intriguingly
"mIRC Direct Link" which led to:-
irc://irc.dilexnet.net:6667/wwwchat
whre wwwchat was their IRC "channel"
so without realy then or now fully understanding how IRC worked I adapted it for our use.
the icing was put on the cake when one evening I was joined by a most helpful guy from the dilexnet organisation Brian "brut" Tomjack. He not only helped me register the channel etc but was able to tell me that dilexnet also had its own Java applet and gave me the URL to use it.I was then in the delightful position of being able to offer not only two distinctly
different Java applets but due to my earlier experience in the original room I could write up how to configure mIRC from scratch plus of course now had the bonus of a direct URL to automatically open and configure mIRC.
all was hunky dory for a long time until for reasons I never got to the bottom of the dilexnet applet would no longer function, then quite recently nobody could get in using dilexnet by either method.I have just checked and now "The Dilex-Networks Homepage is currently down" but it looks like their IRC channels are still functional
in the meantime Anne from OK had found chatzy chat which as it uses Javascript avoids the twin problems of
1. the non inclusuion of a Java Virtual Machine in new computers running Windows XP
And
2. the continuing reluctance of many delightful fans to get to grips with mIRC
(plus considerable prejudice even hatred/dislike against it due to its alleged propensity to "boot" people out, not true by my own experiences.) On the other hand the Javascript "chatzy" room has been having severe "lagging" problems so I for one am not prepared to tolerate that
I will summarise my latest Javascript research tomorrow but as Laurel said and seems to have now deleted
"mIRC is working" so I propose we use mIRC tomorrow for the regular Friday evening session at 9pm EST

John Fowles

[<My Dad's Suggestion>]

Mr Fowles,

Thank you for your reply. I had no idea you had used the same method to instruct, or rather point the users to an easy install of mIRC. I was just trying to help. My father visits this site, and he asked me to try and help with the "chat" problems (hence the name). So I tried my best to explain it in a step by step method.

I feel your pain in the fact that it is hard to get a "direct" chat link of people who are not directly connected to the same program/internet provider.

However, I could suggest doing a google search for those java chat applets. There are many of them out there, but the longevity of those clients lasting is up in the air.

In my experience, mIRC will work best. The "BOOT" factor people are reffering to is this; when you connect to a random server, on efnet for example, not all of you are using the same "access server". This results in downtime or "parsing" of some servers that all relate to efnet. If this happens people on those servers will be disconnected from the efnet environment.

This problem can be avoided by using a set server, not just the random placing irc.efnet.net. But then again, it will experience downtime. I cannot truely give you a better idea.. you will have these problems with ALL chat progams you decide to utilize.

A solution I will profer is this: try getting everyone to install an IM client (yahoo would be my choice) and you can then invite people from your buddy list, or what not, into private chat rooms that are facilitated by that program. That will enable the drop out rate to be immensely disabled to only the people who are connecting's internet connection stability.

That is the best advice I can give. Yahoo, Powtalk, etc.

A link to Yahoo Messenger; http://messenger.yahoo.com/.

If you decide to go this route, I can once again do a step-by-step account of how to access and create the desired effect within Yahoo.

Good Luck.

[<My Dad's Suggestion>]

Mr Fowles,

Thank you for your reply. I had no idea you had used the same method to instruct, or rather point the users to an easy install of mIRC. I was just trying to help. My father visits this site, and he asked me to try and help with the "chat" problems (hence the name). So I tried my best to explain it in a step by step method.

I feel your pain in the fact that it is hard to get a "direct" chat link of people who are not directly connected to the same program/internet provider.

However, I could suggest doing a google search for those java chat applets. There are many of them out there, but the longevity of those clients lasting is up in the air.

In my experience, mIRC will work best. The "BOOT" factor people are reffering to is this; when you connect to a random server, on efnet for example, not all of you are using the same "access server". This results in downtime or "parsing" of some servers that all relate to efnet. If this happens people on those servers will be disconnected from the efnet environment.

This problem can be avoided by using a set server, not just the random placing irc.efnet.net. But then again, it will experience downtime. I cannot truely give you a better idea.. you will have these problems with ALL chat progams you decide to utilize.

A solution I will profer is this: try getting everyone to install an IM client (yahoo would be my choice) and you can then invite people from your buddy list, or what not, into private chat rooms that are facilitated by that program. That will enable the drop out rate to be immensely disabled to only the people who are connecting's internet connection stability.

That is the best advice I can give. Yahoo, Powtalk, etc.

A link to Yahoo Messenger; http://messenger.yahoo.com/.

If you decide to go this route, I can once again do a step-by-step account of how to access and create the desired effect within Yahoo.

Good Luck.

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by &lt;My Dad's Suggestion&gt;:
However, I could suggest doing a google search for those java chat applets.
There are many of them out there, Many thanks "son"
Buttt.... I have been trying obviously unsucessfully to get the message across that due to Microsoft's legal agreement with Java
originator Sun Microsytems Microsoft will no longer be including the MJVM (Microsoft Java Virtual Machine) in any more issues of
Windows (beyond XP) as I found out after installing XP Media Center Edition on my new-build desktop 'puter.
So in that case it matters not a fig what Java applet one tries to utilise.
I have now (for the purpose of trying out other Java applets not conncted with chat) installed the equivalent Java Runtime Environment from Sun and as I had anticipated it is a damn sight longer winded and time consuming than the very easy acquisition then install of mIRC
Here is my message earlier today to my earlier Friday chat topic at:-
http://www.corfid.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=003574

Meanwhile this evening chat at 9pm EST
using the buttons on:-

http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/lightfoot/chat/
using mIRC (red button)
or for those who still have a Java Virtual Machine installed the Blue button
or to check out mIRC the green button
John Fowles
I looked at Paltalk today but that is Java based as is the chat facility built into Yahoo groups
I know the very first Lightfoot chat rooms were set up by those fans on AOL usin erly versions of AIM as the "geodeticman" here is well aware.
but to my mind having to be invited in would be a backward step and an unecessary complication.
My favourite plan having seen chatzy in action and realising that it was possible to set up an IRC independant private chat that would be 100% based on my own web site using Javascript (where Javascript confusingly has nothing directly to do with Java other than sharing the first 4 letters) would be to find such a Javascript, which has proved difficult so far.
I thought I had found the ideal script at
http://www.qwadchat.com as per my 2 screenshots displayed earlier

http://h1.ripway.com/johnfowles/lightfoot/2_in_room.jpg

but have yet to confirm that it will work reliably.Have you any experience of Javascript rooms?
That way would avoid the twin problems of Jsva and people's reluctance to get to grips with mIRC
and as evinced by brink distrust in it
I was especially interested in the qwadchat script because, as I demonstrated by displaying my own picture in the chat panel, it is possible
to use HTML and one of my ambitions is to get more friends using HTML
John Fowles

[johnfowles]

Originally posted by &lt;My Dad's Suggestion&gt;:
However, I could suggest doing a google search for those java chat applets.
There are many of them out there, Many thanks "son"
Buttt.... I have been trying obviously unsucessfully to get the message across that due to Microsoft's legal agreement with Java
originator Sun Microsytems Microsoft will no longer be including the MJVM (Microsoft Java Virtual Machine) in any more issues of
Windows (beyond XP) as I found out after installing XP Media Center Edition on my new-build desktop 'puter.
So in that case it matters not a fig what Java applet one tries to utilise.
I have now (for the purpose of trying out other Java applets not conncted with chat) installed the equivalent Java Runtime Environment from Sun and as I had anticipated it is a damn sight longer winded and time consuming than the very easy acquisition then install of mIRC
Here is my message earlier today to my earlier Friday chat topic at:-
http://www.corfid.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=003574

Meanwhile this evening chat at 9pm EST
using the buttons on:-

http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/lightfoot/chat/
using mIRC (red button)
or for those who still have a Java Virtual Machine installed the Blue button
or to check out mIRC the green button
John Fowles
I looked at Paltalk today but that is Java based as is the chat facility built into Yahoo groups
I know the very first Lightfoot chat rooms were set up by those fans on AOL usin erly versions of AIM as the "geodeticman" here is well aware.
but to my mind having to be invited in would be a backward step and an unecessary complication.
My favourite plan having seen chatzy in action and realising that it was possible to set up an IRC independant private chat that would be 100% based on my own web site using Javascript (where Javascript confusingly has nothing directly to do with Java other than sharing the first 4 letters) would be to find such a Javascript, which has proved difficult so far.
I thought I had found the ideal script at
http://www.qwadchat.com as per my 2 screenshots displayed earlier

http://h1.ripway.com/johnfowles/lightfoot/2_in_room.jpg

but have yet to confirm that it will work reliably.Have you any experience of Javascript rooms?
That way would avoid the twin problems of Jsva and people's reluctance to get to grips with mIRC
and as evinced by brink distrust in it
I was especially interested in the qwadchat script because, as I demonstrated by displaying my own picture in the chat panel, it is possible
to use HTML and one of my ambitions is to get more friends using HTML
John Fowles

[Iron]

John,
Being an avid member of the computerally challenged,my suggestion is probably useless,but could "Trillion" work for Our needs??
My Mom(Star) sent it to me to hook up.She uses it all the time.Don't know if it would work for this situation or not...Just a thought..

[Iron]

Cancel that last thought,been tryin for a day to get that goin

[johnfowles]

Brian I do believe
Oops that sounds too much like a possible song title. How about it Bill Hall?
No on second thoughts you would probably be accused here of getting all religious.
As I was saying I think that Trillion is purely intended to be a system to facilitate the mutual chatting of people already members of more than one Instant Messenger setup and would therefore require the same tedious personal invitation method to get in. Anyway on Friday on mIRC chat I conducted an experiment with the mouse and we were able to meet in the qwadchat room I have previously mentioned
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/3383/sfeet7wg.jpg
part of my Sherborn Inn picture which I had using HTML displayed complete so that Sharron could see it.
Many thanks Sharron for allowing me to use you as a guinea pig
I have few things to check then I will upload the necessary items to my web site so we can try this Javascript room more thoroughly
John Fowles

[johnfowles]

Brian I do believe
Oops that sounds too much like a possible song title. How about it Bill Hall?
No on second thoughts you would probably be accused here of getting all religious.
As I was saying I think that Trillion is purely intended to be a system to facilitate the mutual chatting of people already members of more than one Instant Messenger setup and would therefore require the same tedious personal invitation method to get in. Anyway on Friday on mIRC chat I conducted an experiment with the mouse and we were able to meet in the qwadchat room I have previously mentioned
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/3383/sfeet7wg.jpg
part of my Sherborn Inn picture which I had using HTML displayed complete so that Sharron could see it.
Many thanks Sharron for allowing me to use you as a guinea pig
I have few things to check then I will upload the necessary items to my web site so we can try this Javascript room more thoroughly
John Fowles

[Iron]

This looks good John.Yeah,that trillion thing is more for personell chatin,and not to mention a pain of a bit to get connected to.
Brain

[SilverHeels]

Brian, I've always wanted to ask you - why 'Iron' ?

[Iron]

Bru,
My Mom, (Star),give me that nickname back when I was but a wee lad

[SilverHeels]

Thanks for the explanation. Hope you didnt mind my asking. :)

[charlene]

Brian - that explains the 'who' but I'd like to know the 'why'...
;)
were you a strong little guy? did you weld? did you have the best pressed shirts in kindergarten??
lol
c'mon - which one? ;)
Char

[charlene]

Brian - that explains the 'who' but I'd like to know the 'why'...
;)
were you a strong little guy? did you weld? did you have the best pressed shirts in kindergarten??
lol
c'mon - which one? ;)
Char

[Iron]

Don't mind a bit Bru,often wondered about the origin myself,but I'd guess Char might be close...Betcha I was the strongest best dressed little welder in the 1st grade!!(no such thing as kindergarden back then.....
Check with Mom to get the scoop,kinda curious myself???
*Star*{tabu2@adelphia.net]

[johnfowles]

OK Not OK chatzy is still down and I dislike the unacceptable lag
Others dislike mIRC; Java applets are out in the long run but we'll use the existing room at
Http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/lightfoot/chat/
this evening at 9PM.
Last Friday Sharron Mouse and I successfully used the qwadchat room as I evidenced with the screenshot above
I have now written a detailed page at:-
http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/qwadchat/
I suggest that some of you leave the main chat and experiment this evening then if no problems perhaps Bill's Saturday chat could be there
John Fowles

[johnfowles]

OK Not OK chatzy is still down and I dislike the unacceptable lag
Others dislike mIRC; Java applets are out in the long run but we'll use the existing room at
Http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/lightfoot/chat/
this evening at 9PM.
Last Friday Sharron Mouse and I successfully used the qwadchat room as I evidenced with the screenshot above
I have now written a detailed page at:-
http://www.johnfowles.org.uk/qwadchat/
I suggest that some of you leave the main chat and experiment this evening then if no problems perhaps Bill's Saturday chat could be there
John Fowles