Dylan Presents Juno Award to Gordon Lightfoot

[KismetLisa]

10 November 1986 Canadian Hall of Fame Ceremony Royal York Hotel
Toronto, Ontario, Canada

[Blackberry John]

10 November 1986 Canadian Hall of Fame Ceremony Royal York Hotel
Toronto, Ontario, Canada

[Gitchigumee]

That is wonderful! But I'm so bummed it ended right before Gord began his speech...
Anyone know why?

[formerlylavender]

I'd never seen that...thanks for posting.

BTW, regarding the Dylan/Gord feud thread, I think Bob Dylan seemed a little nervous and sort of quirky, not rude.

[SeattleRain]

http://archives.cbc.ca/IDC-1-68-743-4679/arts_entertainment/gordon_lightfoot/clip6

Try this link for Gordon's acceptence speech.

No retrospective.

[Jim Nasium]

http://archives.cbc.ca/IDC-1-68-743-4679/arts_entertainment/gordon_lightfoot/clip6

Try this link for Gordon's acceptence speech.

No retrospective.

[Gitchigumee]

Originally posted by ColoradoSue:
No offense but, Dylan was acting a bit strange at the beginning of that clip - was he half asleep? I agree, he's an odd guy. He probably thought he was being funny. Brilliant songwriter, but not too classy. Luckily Gord is both brilliant and classy.

[vlmagee]

You know, I'm as big a Lightfoot fan as any of you, and I am also a Bob Dylan fan but in a different way. I had never seen this clip and I watched it knowing what some of you had said.

I totally disagree with those of you who thought Dylan was being disrespectful, or even "not too classy". Dylan, like Lightfoot, is a brilliant songwriter, but neither is a great speechmaker, and both of them are somewhat uncomfortable in that role. Performing their songs comes naturally; speaking from the stage does not. I am sure that Dylan meant it entirely as joke, and that Lightfoot took it that way. In fact, it was probably as good a joke as he could have come up with, and award ceremonies need some humor.

So let's not take Bob to task. He made the trip to say those few words to honor Lightfoot. THAT says it all.

[charlene]

I don't think he was intentionalin what seemed to be ( to me) 'aloof' ...but to many folks he seemed disrespectful of the moment.Yes he did make the trip and did something he usually doesn't do...so he could have put more effort into saying something meaningful. I truly felt bad for gord. If it was an inside joke or not is their secret I suppose but I'd have thought a few kind words could have been said. I don't think Dylan is that mal-adjusted in front of a camera to not be able to pull that off..
Watching live that night made me cringe. I don't remember anyone laughing much tho.

[charlene]

I don't think he was intentionalin what seemed to be ( to me) 'aloof' ...but to many folks he seemed disrespectful of the moment.Yes he did make the trip and did something he usually doesn't do...so he could have put more effort into saying something meaningful. I truly felt bad for gord. If it was an inside joke or not is their secret I suppose but I'd have thought a few kind words could have been said. I don't think Dylan is that mal-adjusted in front of a camera to not be able to pull that off..
Watching live that night made me cringe. I don't remember anyone laughing much tho.

[Gitchigumee]

I don't hold it too much against Bob Dylan, but I would think a "professional" who has performed a thousand times before crowds of people could at least have made somewhat more of an effort to say something more appropriate on Gord's behalf--it was a big night for Gord and he deserved more than what he got from Bob Dylan. I doubt that Gord would ever act that way, comfortable or not, if he were asked to present a lifetime achievement to, for instance, Dave Matthews, knowing that he is Dave Matthews' idol. (I don't know if Dave Matthews idolizes Gordon Lightfoot, but am just using him as an example). And I guess that's why I'm visiting a Gordon Lightfoot forum on my computer every day instead of a Bob Dylan forum. Both great songwriters though, just different character and style.

[ November 10, 2006, 15:08: Message edited by: Gitchigumee ]

[RM]

Gitchigumee,

You touched on a thought I had while wondering why this topic has survived so long :

Imagine the roles reversed....Lightfoot presenting to Dylan. GL would be prompt, he would acknowledge a standing ovation if one were proffered, and he would not turn his back on those standing to stare at the monitors to admire(?) himself. I also believe Lightfoot would have more to say than "He's a pretty good songwriter and Dylan wouldn't accept this unless I presented it to him".

Pure speculation on my part.....but also a belief.

[ November 11, 2006, 02:37: Message edited by: RMD ]

[Lee]

Dylan didnt act spacey around Tom Petty when they shared the stage at Red Rocks yrs ago. In fact, I thoroughly enjoyed the show.

And he was acting pretty normal on the Martin Scorsese documentary too.

Hmmmm.

[Gitchigumee]

Guess he has good days and bad days. But he should leave the comedy routines to the comedians, 'cuz he's not too funny, just weird. Sorry.

[patybear]

I just saw the clip of gord when he accepted the Lifetime Achievement award.While I don't neccessairly think Dillon was disrespectful,I do
think someone other than Dillon should have been the one to present the award to him.To me,it looked liked Dillon was stoned out of his mind,as he usually looked.But remember,I'm really not that big a Bob Dillon fan.
patybear

[joveski]

we can tell by the way you spelt his surname :D

[Cathy]

It looks like a case of nerves to me. I doubt Dylan is very comfortable in front of a camera, unless he has a guitar in his hands.