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Dorothea
10-20-2000, 10:29 AM
Dear all,
Is there one line from a song that best describes Gord...you...anyone?
Frank.
Frank v
10-20-2000, 10:29 AM
Dear all,
Is there one line from a song that best describes Gord...you...anyone?
Frank.
rainydayperson
10-20-2000, 12:18 PM
From Pony Man...."they live on candy apples instead of oates and hay"
Why such a line? Well, too me, I believe you must have a kind and decent heart to write such a line & song. What imagination Mr. Lightfoot must have, to have written "Pony Man." I encourage one and all to check out the lyrics (go to home pg. of this site) of this wonderful lullaby.
-David
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classicmixdj
10-20-2000, 12:18 PM
From Pony Man...."they live on candy apples instead of oates and hay"
Why such a line? Well, too me, I believe you must have a kind and decent heart to write such a line & song. What imagination Mr. Lightfoot must have, to have written "Pony Man." I encourage one and all to check out the lyrics (go to home pg. of this site) of this wonderful lullaby.
-David
[This message has been edited by classicmixdj (edited October 20, 2000).]
Dorothea
10-20-2000, 02:16 PM
CMDJ,
Great line....
In Britain we call them Toffee Apples.
Frank.
Frank v
10-20-2000, 02:16 PM
CMDJ,
Great line....
In Britain we call them Toffee Apples.
Frank.
Kasey
10-20-2000, 05:32 PM
I use it in my signature: "laughing eyes and smiling face" (from "Beautiful"), as I see myself that way most of the time, and hope others do too. I enjoy a good laugh or two......
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"the mornin' after blues, from my head down to my shoes..."
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"Laughing eyes and smiling face..."
theotterjudy
10-20-2000, 05:32 PM
I use it in my signature: "laughing eyes and smiling face" (from "Beautiful"), as I see myself that way most of the time, and hope others do too. I enjoy a good laugh or two......
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"the mornin' after blues, from my head down to my shoes..."
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"Laughing eyes and smiling face..."
midnightmisty
10-20-2000, 05:58 PM
Frank,
You come up with the best stuff!!!
what describes me:
"I would be happy just to hold the hands I love......"
sandyo
10-20-2000, 05:58 PM
Frank,
You come up with the best stuff!!!
what describes me:
"I would be happy just to hold the hands I love......"
charlene
10-20-2000, 09:49 PM
Frank - I like to think I am a rainyday person.
We have toffee apples, caramel apples and candy apples - all three are different although toffee is like caramel . I don't like any of them becaue they aren't chocolate!
LOL
Char
Gord reminds me of Don Quixote a bit - out tilting windmills and doing things his way sort of attitude.
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charlene
10-20-2000, 09:49 PM
Frank - I like to think I am a rainyday person.
We have toffee apples, caramel apples and candy apples - all three are different although toffee is like caramel . I don't like any of them becaue they aren't chocolate!
LOL
Char
Gord reminds me of Don Quixote a bit - out tilting windmills and doing things his way sort of attitude.
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Charlene,
We have caramel apples dipped in CHOCOLATE!
Charlene,
We have caramel apples dipped in CHOCOLATE!
Julia Opack
10-23-2000, 09:24 AM
It's hard to boil down one lyric but one which would appear near he top of my list would be:
"Lake Huron rolls, Superior sings, in the rooms of her ice water mansions".
windhorse
10-23-2000, 09:24 AM
It's hard to boil down one lyric but one which would appear near he top of my list would be:
"Lake Huron rolls, Superior sings, in the rooms of her ice water mansions".
Chris M
10-24-2000, 12:51 AM
Sorry, but I've tried and can't come up with just one lyric.
I have to go with:
If you want to know for certain
What is written in my soul
Where my wildest dreams unfold
Like an endless stream
If you need me
Show me a way to walk tall
Cause I've not seen anything at all
Until I met you.
(from "If You Need Me", DSR)
and
When the sea runs high
The sea runs wild and I'm unsteady
And I think of you
In the warmth of your home and family
When love is true
There is no truer occupation
And may this gale
Blow us to the ones we love.
(from "A Passing Ship" East of Midnight Lp)
I also love, "I don't want to own the key to some ghostly mansion where souls are set free." ("On The High Seas", DSR)
midnightmisty
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midnightmisty
10-24-2000, 12:51 AM
Sorry, but I've tried and can't come up with just one lyric.
I have to go with:
If you want to know for certain
What is written in my soul
Where my wildest dreams unfold
Like an endless stream
If you need me
Show me a way to walk tall
Cause I've not seen anything at all
Until I met you.
(from "If You Need Me", DSR)
and
When the sea runs high
The sea runs wild and I'm unsteady
And I think of you
In the warmth of your home and family
When love is true
There is no truer occupation
And may this gale
Blow us to the ones we love.
(from "A Passing Ship" East of Midnight Lp)
I also love, "I don't want to own the key to some ghostly mansion where souls are set free." ("On The High Seas", DSR)
midnightmisty
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WillieMaysFan
11-09-2000, 10:28 AM
I know this is an older topic, but I have been away from the site in awhile and I really like this question (thanks Frank) and I want to share my favorite line. It is from my favorite song (I'm sure you know which) and it is:
"...I wonder how the old folks are tonight."
I love this line. It couldn't be more perfect and it wouldn't be the same without Gord's brilliant voice. I especially like the way he lowers his tone for the word "tonight." It's something he does quite often and especially during that era of his music, it's very soothing.
The words themselves move me in a couple of ways. First, it's something you tend to do right after someone leaves you with your love for them still burning strong. You just want to go back to basics, to a place and situation that is familiar and comforting to take your mind off the heartache. It helps to go and sit with the old folks for awhile and pick up the pieces of your sweet, shattered dream.
Second, I think it shows respect for our elders. Even in a time when young people were rebelling against the old ways and telling everyone that they were going to do what they wanted to do, listen to their rock n' roll and data who they wanted to date, they still had respect for the "old folks." This is something I think is lacking in young people today. They have benefited from the change that their parents created, but they don't realize it. So many lack respect for older generations. I grew up believing that you give them respect just because they are your elders and this line captures the meaning of that respect for me.
Hope you all found my thoughts on an older topic worth reading.
Y.S.
young stranger
11-09-2000, 10:28 AM
I know this is an older topic, but I have been away from the site in awhile and I really like this question (thanks Frank) and I want to share my favorite line. It is from my favorite song (I'm sure you know which) and it is:
"...I wonder how the old folks are tonight."
I love this line. It couldn't be more perfect and it wouldn't be the same without Gord's brilliant voice. I especially like the way he lowers his tone for the word "tonight." It's something he does quite often and especially during that era of his music, it's very soothing.
The words themselves move me in a couple of ways. First, it's something you tend to do right after someone leaves you with your love for them still burning strong. You just want to go back to basics, to a place and situation that is familiar and comforting to take your mind off the heartache. It helps to go and sit with the old folks for awhile and pick up the pieces of your sweet, shattered dream.
Second, I think it shows respect for our elders. Even in a time when young people were rebelling against the old ways and telling everyone that they were going to do what they wanted to do, listen to their rock n' roll and data who they wanted to date, they still had respect for the "old folks." This is something I think is lacking in young people today. They have benefited from the change that their parents created, but they don't realize it. So many lack respect for older generations. I grew up believing that you give them respect just because they are your elders and this line captures the meaning of that respect for me.
Hope you all found my thoughts on an older topic worth reading.
Y.S.
Chris M
11-09-2000, 01:46 PM
Thank you, Young Stranger!
What a lovely and powerful message! I couldn't agree more!
I was a full-time volunteer at a community
for the elderly for 2 years. After that it was just part-time for a year and a half.
It was an honour, a privledge and a joy to know those people. (they've all passed on. that's just one of the difficult parts, but it was worth it)
It came about after hubby was grumbling about the condition of the world. I said,
"Don't like it? Then MAKE A DIFFERENCE! Any
difference! Give one hour a week to a lonely old gentleman who may be facing the end of his life alone. Play checkers with him. Listen to him talk. Be his friend." So he did. It lasted for 2 visits. Then I took over. It was so wonderful that I kept putting in more and more hours. I did everything I could think of for these wonderful people. I'd leave my full-time job (as a part-time volunteer) and head for the hosp. to feed a favorite friend who couldn't feed herself & would only eat for me. The most insignificant gestures were never forgotten. The appreciation was so great that I really felt as though I was making a difference!
I've always loved the elderly & those lyrics
go straight to my heart, too.....
Those lovely people were so much fun and had
life all figured out. They had their priorities straight. When I'm well again, I intend to pick up where I left off. So many
have the impression that "it's too depressing." Yes, you take some hits when you become fond of so many that age. But it
was mostly joyful and meaningful. It was one of the most rewarding experiences of my entire life!
Thanks, Young Stranger and Gord Lightfoot for
reminding me about the things that really matter in life. "I wonder how the old folks are tonight......."
BTW....my hubby is a most compassionate,
sensitive and loving soul. He saw some things that really upset him during his only 2 visits. Things he could not control or make
a difference with. I can understand why this is not for everyone. Consequently, for me...
my experiences have taught me to be absolutely terrified of old age. It's about a thousand times worse than I had imagined.
Appreciate your youth, while you can, everyone....
midnitemisty
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midnightmisty
11-09-2000, 01:46 PM
Thank you, Young Stranger!
What a lovely and powerful message! I couldn't agree more!
I was a full-time volunteer at a community
for the elderly for 2 years. After that it was just part-time for a year and a half.
It was an honour, a privledge and a joy to know those people. (they've all passed on. that's just one of the difficult parts, but it was worth it)
It came about after hubby was grumbling about the condition of the world. I said,
"Don't like it? Then MAKE A DIFFERENCE! Any
difference! Give one hour a week to a lonely old gentleman who may be facing the end of his life alone. Play checkers with him. Listen to him talk. Be his friend." So he did. It lasted for 2 visits. Then I took over. It was so wonderful that I kept putting in more and more hours. I did everything I could think of for these wonderful people. I'd leave my full-time job (as a part-time volunteer) and head for the hosp. to feed a favorite friend who couldn't feed herself & would only eat for me. The most insignificant gestures were never forgotten. The appreciation was so great that I really felt as though I was making a difference!
I've always loved the elderly & those lyrics
go straight to my heart, too.....
Those lovely people were so much fun and had
life all figured out. They had their priorities straight. When I'm well again, I intend to pick up where I left off. So many
have the impression that "it's too depressing." Yes, you take some hits when you become fond of so many that age. But it
was mostly joyful and meaningful. It was one of the most rewarding experiences of my entire life!
Thanks, Young Stranger and Gord Lightfoot for
reminding me about the things that really matter in life. "I wonder how the old folks are tonight......."
BTW....my hubby is a most compassionate,
sensitive and loving soul. He saw some things that really upset him during his only 2 visits. Things he could not control or make
a difference with. I can understand why this is not for everyone. Consequently, for me...
my experiences have taught me to be absolutely terrified of old age. It's about a thousand times worse than I had imagined.
Appreciate your youth, while you can, everyone....
midnitemisty
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Chris M
11-09-2000, 03:50 PM
more excellent lyrics from Carefree Highway:
"Now the thing that I call livin' is just bein' satisfied with knowin' I got no one left to blame".
written by a young man who was wise beyond his years.....
midnitemisty
midnightmisty
11-09-2000, 03:50 PM
more excellent lyrics from Carefree Highway:
"Now the thing that I call livin' is just bein' satisfied with knowin' I got no one left to blame".
written by a young man who was wise beyond his years.....
midnitemisty
WillieMaysFan
11-09-2000, 05:59 PM
Thanks, midnightmisty, I really appreciate your response. And what a story you have to tell. I am glad you share my love of that line and my belief in respecting the old folks. I haven't had the opportunity to volunteer in that way, but I will try it sometime.
Also, thanks for the additional line from Carefree Highway. That song says so much.
Y.S.
young stranger
11-09-2000, 05:59 PM
Thanks, midnightmisty, I really appreciate your response. And what a story you have to tell. I am glad you share my love of that line and my belief in respecting the old folks. I haven't had the opportunity to volunteer in that way, but I will try it sometime.
Also, thanks for the additional line from Carefree Highway. That song says so much.
Y.S.
dill23
11-10-2000, 06:28 PM
Frank
The best line from Gordon came from an interview not a song. Something his Sunday School Teacher taugh him at a very young age.
"Do the best with what you got."
Truly the greatest words to chart a path in life I've ever heard. I asked Gord about it, and he lit up like Times Square in NYC at Christmas. He didn't have to say another word...I really got it. I told him, "Looking back now over my life, that's exactly what I've done, and Thank You." I thought he was going to burst.
Rob Wells
11-10-2000, 06:28 PM
Frank
The best line from Gordon came from an interview not a song. Something his Sunday School Teacher taugh him at a very young age.
"Do the best with what you got."
Truly the greatest words to chart a path in life I've ever heard. I asked Gord about it, and he lit up like Times Square in NYC at Christmas. He didn't have to say another word...I really got it. I told him, "Looking back now over my life, that's exactly what I've done, and Thank You." I thought he was going to burst.
Simone
11-11-2000, 10:27 PM
I continually return to the final passage in Minstrel.
"And if you meet him you will be, the victim of his Minstrel seed..."
Every time I hear that, it reminds me that I am a victim, and so are all of you. It is my defense when asked, "are you on that Lightfoot site again?!!!!!
Chris in Virginia
11-11-2000, 10:27 PM
I continually return to the final passage in Minstrel.
"And if you meet him you will be, the victim of his Minstrel seed..."
Every time I hear that, it reminds me that I am a victim, and so are all of you. It is my defense when asked, "are you on that Lightfoot site again?!!!!!
Florian
11-12-2000, 02:02 PM
Hi,
"Does any one know where the love of God goes
When the waves turn the minutes to hours?"
This line is of course from The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald" (http://www.corfid.com/gl/Albums/Summertime_Dream/The_Wreck_Of_the_Edmund_Fitzgerald.htm)
With a few simple words, Gordon Lightfoot again manages to describe the feeling aboard very accurate. You can re-live the feeling the crew had - the time seems to stand still and hopelessness and the feeling of being all alone out on that large vicious lake fills the hearts of the sailors before disaster stikes.
All in all, I find this to be a great line, almost the centerpiece of the song.
-Florian
rainydayperson
11-12-2000, 06:14 PM
quote:Originally posted by Florian:
Hi,
"Does any one know where the love of God goes
When the waves turn the minutes to hours?"
This line is of course from The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald" (http://www.corfid.com/gl/Albums/Summertime_Dream/The_Wreck_Of_the_Edmund_Fitzgerald.htm)
With a few simple words, Gordon Lightfoot again manages to describe the feeling aboard very accurate. You can re-live the feeling the crew had - the time seems to stand still and hopelessness and the feeling of being all alone out on that large vicious lake fills the hearts of the sailors before disaster stikes.
All in all, I find this to be a great line, almost the centerpiece of the song.
-Florian
--If I may Florian:
That line you mentioned "chills me to the bone"..
classicmixdj
11-12-2000, 06:14 PM
quote:Originally posted by Florian:
Hi,
"Does any one know where the love of God goes
When the waves turn the minutes to hours?"
This line is of course from The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald" (http://www.corfid.com/gl/Albums/Summertime_Dream/The_Wreck_Of_the_Edmund_Fitzgerald.htm)
With a few simple words, Gordon Lightfoot again manages to describe the feeling aboard very accurate. You can re-live the feeling the crew had - the time seems to stand still and hopelessness and the feeling of being all alone out on that large vicious lake fills the hearts of the sailors before disaster stikes.
All in all, I find this to be a great line, almost the centerpiece of the song.
-Florian
--If I may Florian:
That line you mentioned "chills me to the bone"..
Pilatus
11-13-2000, 07:48 PM
..."And later that night when the ship's bell rang,
could it be a north wind they'd been feelin'?"
From the cut, "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald".
One of many chilling verses in the piece and one that signified to the crew that SOMETHING IS WRONG, whether wise. How many times in our lives (far too many) are we struck with that first thought, feeling or preminition that something is not right? So many times the feeling, in the first instant is almost always horrifying, smacks us right in the gut and unleashes a flood of adrenaline.
........Pilatus
Pilatus
11-13-2000, 07:48 PM
..."And later that night when the ship's bell rang,
could it be a north wind they'd been feelin'?"
From the cut, "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald".
One of many chilling verses in the piece and one that signified to the crew that SOMETHING IS WRONG, whether wise. How many times in our lives (far too many) are we struck with that first thought, feeling or preminition that something is not right? So many times the feeling, in the first instant is almost always horrifying, smacks us right in the gut and unleashes a flood of adrenaline.
........Pilatus
Chris M
11-13-2000, 08:41 PM
Pilatus, classicmixdj & Florian
The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald really hits a nerve with my husband. He was in a major shipwreck during Typhoon Rose in 1971
in Hong Kong Harbor. Approx. 250 men aboard.
None were lost due to the fact that they were
finally tossed onto a tiny island and also because of the brave men who secured the ship to land. The ship was totalled and taken apart for scrap metal. It was the wreck of the U.S.S. Regulus.
For 15 hours these men lived in horror. I'm amazed that my husband can listen to that song. It's difficult for me. I watched events unfold, stateside, on news broadcasts.
That song gives me the chills.
midnightmisty
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midnightmisty
11-13-2000, 08:41 PM
Pilatus, classicmixdj & Florian
The Wreck Of The Edmund Fitzgerald really hits a nerve with my husband. He was in a major shipwreck during Typhoon Rose in 1971
in Hong Kong Harbor. Approx. 250 men aboard.
None were lost due to the fact that they were
finally tossed onto a tiny island and also because of the brave men who secured the ship to land. The ship was totalled and taken apart for scrap metal. It was the wreck of the U.S.S. Regulus.
For 15 hours these men lived in horror. I'm amazed that my husband can listen to that song. It's difficult for me. I watched events unfold, stateside, on news broadcasts.
That song gives me the chills.
midnightmisty
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catmanron
11-14-2000, 06:49 AM
"he came down through fields of green on the summer side of life" there is no more wistful and literate and longing moment in my personal canon...just the line itself...maybe because of the brilliance that comes after, or maybe just the singular power of the statement itself...'specially now as my personal autumn approaches...
wordmanray
11-14-2000, 06:49 AM
"he came down through fields of green on the summer side of life" there is no more wistful and literate and longing moment in my personal canon...just the line itself...maybe because of the brilliance that comes after, or maybe just the singular power of the statement itself...'specially now as my personal autumn approaches...
Wingdrops
11-16-2000, 06:19 PM
For Gord, I think of his "thinking about home" lyrics,
"I would travel all my life if loneliness were not the price, but headed north above that line is the only time I'm flyin'"
"to Biscayne Bay and all the way back again"
"a lonesome boy who missed the train last night"
"you can't jump a jet plane like you can a freight train, so I'll just be on my way ..."
"and by the way, did she mention my name?"
For a description of me by Gord, its the line which begins "Sometimes it did get lonely, but it taught me how to cry"
and ends ....
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"And the laughter came too easy for life to pass me by." - SDYS
2Much2Lose
11-16-2000, 06:19 PM
For Gord, I think of his "thinking about home" lyrics,
"I would travel all my life if loneliness were not the price, but headed north above that line is the only time I'm flyin'"
"to Biscayne Bay and all the way back again"
"a lonesome boy who missed the train last night"
"you can't jump a jet plane like you can a freight train, so I'll just be on my way ..."
"and by the way, did she mention my name?"
For a description of me by Gord, its the line which begins "Sometimes it did get lonely, but it taught me how to cry"
and ends ....
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"And the laughter came too easy for life to pass me by." - SDYS
"I get so lonesome, knowing you could be around....
You go with me everywhere like a shadow in the gloom."
Ordinary Man
05-06-2003, 02:16 AM
"I get so lonesome, knowing you could be around....
You go with me everywhere like a shadow in the gloom."
SomewhereupinMichigan
05-06-2003, 07:08 AM
DMD: You need to clean the wax out and give another listen. They lyric from "Minstrel of the Dawn" is this: "Like me and you, he's trying to get into things more happy than BLUE" That's BLUE, not GLOOM!
http://www.corfid.com/ubb/redface.gif Your right. Well, we've all done that before. It's funny though, the first few times I heard "Shadows" I thought it was "in the mountains in the spring time on a (gloomy) windy day but it's really (blue and) windy day. The words blue and gloomy sound the same in a song.
http://www.corfid.com/ubb/redface.gif Your right. Well, we've all done that before. It's funny though, the first few times I heard "Shadows" I thought it was "in the mountains in the spring time on a (gloomy) windy day but it's really (blue and) windy day. The words blue and gloomy sound the same in a song.
Cathy
05-06-2003, 09:21 AM
quote:Originally posted by DMD3:
http://www.corfid.com/ubb/redface.gif Your right. Well, we've all done that before. It's funny though, the first few times I heard "Shadows" I thought it was "in the mountains in the spring time on a (gloomy) windy day but it's really (blue and) windy day. The words blue and gloomy sound the same in a song.
Don't worry about it, DMD3. We'll let it slide because you're a youngster. I really get a kick out of your enthusiasm for Lightfoot's music, considering most kids in your age group wouldn't have a clue who he is. So just keep doing what you're doing.
And come to think of it, when I was your age, I went for about a year singing, "Every highway. Let me slip away on you..."
Cathy
Visit my website at http://www.cathycowette.com
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Not to be mean, but I don't see how you could mishear that. I really don't see how I misheard "Minstrel of the Dawn" like that but I guess I did. Some songs, like "If it should please you" or "East of Midnight" the lyrics are hard to hear because he sings them fast. But "CareFree Highway" sounds pretty clear. Oh well, I guess we're all like that.
When I first heard "Endless Wire" I thought he was saying, "don't go foolin around, and set my wheels a game" ! This was only my 1st time of hearing it in GGV2.
I'm no expert on Gord, but I'm no newbie either. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif I've listened to him for about 2 years now.
Not to be mean, but I don't see how you could mishear that. I really don't see how I misheard "Minstrel of the Dawn" like that but I guess I did. Some songs, like "If it should please you" or "East of Midnight" the lyrics are hard to hear because he sings them fast. But "CareFree Highway" sounds pretty clear. Oh well, I guess we're all like that.
When I first heard "Endless Wire" I thought he was saying, "don't go foolin around, and set my wheels a game" ! This was only my 1st time of hearing it in GGV2.
I'm no expert on Gord, but I'm no newbie either. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif I've listened to him for about 2 years now.
SomewhereupinMichigan
05-06-2003, 06:06 PM
DMD3: Didn't mean to come off mean with you, so don't take any offense. Just settin' the record straight for you. Blue does make more sense than Gloom in that verse, don't you think? Anyway, here's a good link to the words of all Gord's songs:
http://gordonlightfoot.com/Songs.shtml
Be cool,
SUIM
Cathy
05-06-2003, 09:49 PM
quote:Originally posted by DMD3:
Not to be mean, but I don't see how you could mishear that. I really don't see how I misheard "Minstrel of the Dawn" like that but I guess I did. Some songs, like "If it should please you" or "East of Midnight" the lyrics are hard to hear because he sings them fast. But "CareFree Highway" sounds pretty clear. Oh well, I guess we're all like that.
When I first heard "Endless Wire" I thought he was saying, "don't go foolin around, and set my wheels a game" ! This was only my 1st time of hearing it in GGV2.
I'm no expert on Gord, but I'm no newbie either. http://www.corfid.com/ubb/biggrin.gif I've listened to him for about 2 years now.
I think I missed the lyrics because I was listening to a very cheap 8 track player.
Cathy
Brian Drescher
10-15-2008, 12:17 PM
Lot of people sayin' ...What a price you've been payin' [from “You Just Gotta' Be”]
mandoann
10-15-2008, 08:24 PM
About GL: Try to understand - I'm not your ordinary man...
(he goes with me everywhere...) :headbang:
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