On the CD Harmony...

[Jesse Joe]

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On the CD Harmony, when Gordon introduces the song, 'THE NO HOTEL,' he's got a great voice, the words are very well spoken. But right after he says , "Dr. David Suzuki, you hear a fan yelling something in Massey Hall. It sounds like 'Lightfoot rules,' but Im pretty certain that's not it.

As anyone caught, what it is that the fan is yelling? Just wondering...


At first I thought it might have been Charlene, :D but Im almost certain it's a man's voice. :)

[ July 18, 2006, 09:59: Message edited by: Jesse -Joe ]

[Jesse Joe]

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On the CD Harmony, when Gordon introduces the song, 'THE NO HOTEL,' he's got a great voice, the words are very well spoken. But right after he says , "Dr. David Suzuki, you hear a fan yelling something in Massey Hall. It sounds like 'Lightfoot rules,' but Im pretty certain that's not it.

As anyone caught, what it is that the fan is yelling? Just wondering...


At first I thought it might have been Charlene, :D but Im almost certain it's a man's voice. :)

[ July 18, 2006, 09:59: Message edited by: Jesse -Joe ]

[charlene]

nope - not me - I am quiet as a mouse....I may instigate a standing ovation now and then but that's all!
lol
I'll have to give it a listen and see who the culprit is.....
I do agree with the sentiment if that's what was yelled out!
;)

Just listened...sounds like someone WAY up back yelling "YOU RULE!"
I don't know anyone back there!!! lol
;)

[ July 12, 2006, 10:02: Message edited by: charlene ]

[charlene]

nope - not me - I am quiet as a mouse....I may instigate a standing ovation now and then but that's all!
lol
I'll have to give it a listen and see who the culprit is.....
I do agree with the sentiment if that's what was yelled out!
;)

Just listened...sounds like someone WAY up back yelling "YOU RULE!"
I don't know anyone back there!!! lol
;)

[ July 12, 2006, 10:02: Message edited by: charlene ]

[Don Quixote]

I think that the person is saying "Hippies rule", in response to GL's comments about "tree-huggers".
DQ

[Jesse Joe]

Quite possible I guess. :D :) :rolleyes:

[Jesse Joe]

Quite possible I guess. :D :) :rolleyes:

[Shutup and Deal, I'm Losin']

I started an exact same topic about this awhile back, and pretty much got the same response. One of the two answers have got to be correct. :)

[Shutup and Deal, I'm Losin']

I wonder if it was someone on this site? :confused:

But they weren't yelling "YOU RULE". There were (at least) 3 syllables in whatever it was (s)he shouted out.

[Jesse Joe]

I thought it was Charlene, Fading Away, yelling, "CORFID IS FOR YOU." :D :D :)

[Jesse Joe]

I thought it was Charlene, Fading Away, yelling, "CORFID IS FOR YOU." :D :D :)

[Shutup and Deal, I'm Losin']

That would be something. :D I wonder if whoever yelled it new that they were being recorded live on an album?

[Jesse Joe]

Probably not...

It's the same, with Sunday Concert, you must have notice it. When he does CRT, at one point the song comes to a quick stop, and somebody thinks the song is over and starts to clap. That was back in 1969, I wonder if that person is still alive today?

[Jesse Joe]

Probably not...

It's the same, with Sunday Concert, you must have notice it. When he does CRT, at one point the song comes to a quick stop, and somebody thinks the song is over and starts to clap. That was back in 1969, I wonder if that person is still alive today?

[Shutup and Deal, I'm Losin']

In the live verson of "Softly", at the beginning while the guitar is playing before he starts singing, if you listen closely, you can hear what sounds like a child laughing. :confused:

[Jesse Joe]

I have never noticed that, Fading Away. Im gone a listen to it later, and check that out...Jesse.

[Jesse Joe]

I have never noticed that, Fading Away. Im gone a listen to it later, and check that out...Jesse.

[Borderstone]

Actually it was someone from here yelling,"B. is the dude!" LOL! :D

Something I meant to mention last year but totally forgot to. The Tower Rec. where i bought Harmony closed it's doors last year in Jan.

Which i didn't discover until 5 months later. Now,it and it's adjoining structures have been demolished. :(

I shopped there from 1985 to 2004 and bought quite a significant amount of my music from there,Harmony being the second to last thing i bought there. The last? A Bill Withers cassette.

[Shutup and Deal, I'm Losin']

Originally posted by Jesse -Joe:
I have never noticed that, Fading Away. Im gone a listen to it later, and check that out...Jesse. :D I'll listen to CRT as well.

[Jesse Joe]

I've listen to Softly, and I cant say that I heard a child laughing. Is it at the beginning right before he sings the first word?

I will give it another listen w/ headphones.

In the meantime, you put some volume on your stereo, and listen to the very beginning of Canadian Railroad Trilogy, right before he starts playing, you will hear him say something that sounds like, "Surprising Ouu." On Sunday Concert...

[Jesse Joe]

I've listen to Softly, and I cant say that I heard a child laughing. Is it at the beginning right before he sings the first word?

I will give it another listen w/ headphones.

In the meantime, you put some volume on your stereo, and listen to the very beginning of Canadian Railroad Trilogy, right before he starts playing, you will hear him say something that sounds like, "Surprising Ouu." On Sunday Concert...

[Jesse Joe]

Borderstone, you are the Dude. :D :)

[Jesse Joe]

Borderstone, you are the Dude. :D :)

[Shutup and Deal, I'm Losin']

Originally posted by Jesse -Joe:
I've listen to Softly, and I cant say that I heard a child laughing. Is it at the beginning right before he sings the first word?

I Yes, it's before he starts singing.

[Jesse Joe]

Im listening to, "Sunday Concert", right now. I will let you know...Jesse.

[Jesse Joe]

Im listening to, "Sunday Concert", right now. I will let you know...Jesse.

[Jesse Joe]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Don Quixote:
I think that the person is saying "Hippies rule", in response to GL's comments about "tree-huggers".

Don Quixote, you have a great code name or handle whatever it's called. I wanted to take it, when I joined. But saw it was taken. And I kind a knew it would be.

What is the comment that Gord said about "tree huggers." I have never heard that one...Jesse.

[Jesse Joe]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Don Quixote:
I think that the person is saying "Hippies rule", in response to GL's comments about "tree-huggers".

Don Quixote, you have a great code name or handle whatever it's called. I wanted to take it, when I joined. But saw it was taken. And I kind a knew it would be.

What is the comment that Gord said about "tree huggers." I have never heard that one...Jesse.

[Jesse Joe]

Fading Away, Ive listen to Softly 4 or 5 times, on Sunday Concert, And I cant hear a child laughing. Im sorry Im not saying it's not true, but someone else should give an honest opinion, on this.

It might be there but would be lying if I told you I hear it, your Lighthead friend ...Jesse.

[Jesse Joe]

Fading Away, Ive listen to Softly 4 or 5 times, on Sunday Concert, And I cant hear a child laughing. Im sorry Im not saying it's not true, but someone else should give an honest opinion, on this.

It might be there but would be lying if I told you I hear it, your Lighthead friend ...Jesse.

[Don Quixote]

Jesse-Joe, I don't have the Harmony CD with me (it's in my office), but the comments about "tree-huggers" are when he talks about Dr. David Suzuki and Sting.

As those who have been here awhile know, I come by my "handle" honestly. DQ is not just a moniker, it's a way of life with me. I am a professor of Spanish, have studied in Spain, have walked along the route of Don Quixote ("Don Quijote" in Spanish), have taught the novel several times in my classes, and try to read the novel cover to cover around every other year or so. It is a felicitous convergence that my favorite singer wrote a marvelous song about my favorite fictional character.

Cheers,
DQ

[geodeticman]

DQ and Jessie - I don't know , but like DQ I am not listening now, but did today to No Hotel, and at the mention of Dr. Suzuki, I'm pretty sure what *I* heard was a "boo"-ing.

DQ - while you're on-line when u read this, I have a Q for you:

Don Quixote - what a fascinating way to definately come by your handle with honours ! I had no idea all along you were a prof ! I should read more profiles more often.

Just goes to show that some posts here and there doth not reveal what we sometimes presume to be ( or not to be LOL) the total person behind the theme-based forum posts. Interesting. But, still.. the Q

A question for you DQ within your chosen ken: Do you think the poem on the back of the DQ album signed "gl" is in keeping with Cervantes' thoughts, means of expression, "feel", I am not quite sure how to ask - you're the pro !

And moreover, does the song DQ reflect some noteworthy aspects , small or any, of the book ?
Said otherwise, do the lyrics of DQ the song reflect GL's noted level of studying his subject when writing of it, i.e. The Wreck, CRT vis-a-vis Pierre Berton's book ? Its my impression that Gord does his homework historically. Thoughts ?

I have to admit I have only read the book about 1/3 the way, in High School. Assigned reading had no chance with me in High School . College - different, because my ability to feed my family hung in the balance. I'd of read it all the way then - should now !

Sorry I have strayed from the thread on the "sound(s)" in No Hotel. Weird how many different things we hear. Anyone else hear the "boo" when GL speaks of meeting up with Dr. Suzuki ? No political commentary implied or invited by the question, only the sound, in keeping with the thread ! :)

Thanks

geo Steve

[Jesse Joe]

Don Quixote, thank you for the info, tree huggers, now makes perfectly good sense. Your a professor who studied in Spain ,your no fool...

Thanks also to you Geo Steve, The boos were aimed at Dr, Suzuki and not Lightfoot. It is quite possible. Might have been a logger in the audience?

[Jesse Joe]

Don Quixote, thank you for the info, tree huggers, now makes perfectly good sense. Your a professor who studied in Spain ,your no fool...

Thanks also to you Geo Steve, The boos were aimed at Dr, Suzuki and not Lightfoot. It is quite possible. Might have been a logger in the audience?

[geodeticman]

Jessi-Joe -

thanks, I was not uncertain as to whether the "boo" audible artifact was directed at GL ( I was quite sure it was not), nor did I wish to infer it was directed at Dr. Suzuki, lest I unwittingly drag a toe-line in the sand politically.

That would be quite improper in our forum for good taste's sake on otherwise potentially political issues. I simply indicated that when Dr Suzuki's name was spoken by Gord, it was at that exact moment I heard the "Boo", an audible bookmark if you will. The question simply was "has anyone else heard the "boo" ?
JJ are you saying you did ? I'd sure feel less stupid, if someone else did. I make no comment regarding Dr. Suzuki, again , too clarify.
Thak you Jessie for trying to help, I am sorry you misunderstood; very kind of you to respond.

- geo Steve

[charlene]

I don't recall anyone ever booing when Gord has talked of Suzuki (or Sting) as he leads into No Hotel. I was at Massey the night the song was recorded. He certainly wouldn't get any boos here in Toronto.

[charlene]

I don't recall anyone ever booing when Gord has talked of Suzuki (or Sting) as he leads into No Hotel. I was at Massey the night the song was recorded. He certainly wouldn't get any boos here in Toronto.

[Jesse Joe]

Im not saying I heard a boo, Im asking the question, can anyone make out, what does a fan shout right after Gord says Dr. David Suzuki? We had a lot of different answers.

Geo Steve think's it's a "boo"-ing. I myself dont know, is why Im asking...

[Jesse Joe]

Im not saying I heard a boo, Im asking the question, can anyone make out, what does a fan shout right after Gord says Dr. David Suzuki? We had a lot of different answers.

Geo Steve think's it's a "boo"-ing. I myself dont know, is why Im asking...

[Next Saturday]

I thought the shout-out was "Suzuki Rules!" but I can't be positive.

Next Saturday
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[Don Quixote]

Hi, Geo-Steve.
A couple of years ago, there was a question pretty much along the lines of what you asked; you could probably ask Borderstone or someone else to look it up (B'stone has a penchant for finding long-lost threads and reviving them--I'm grateful for that) The long and the short of it (mostly the long, since as a prof. it's in my contract to be a windbag) is that there is quite a bit of Cervantes' book in the song and the poem, although with a 1970's sort of take; around then DQ was celebrated as an idealist and a dreamer (although the line "he shouts across the ocean to the shore" shows how futile his efforts are). Again, if you find the thread, you'll see some details of what was said.
There have been lots of other interpretations of the novel--at present, I'm looking at an analysis from the 1930s by Ramiro de Maeztu that basically says that Cervantes was showing the decline of Spain and that DQ was basically an anachronistic figure showing how Spain's Golden Age was ending while falling well short of its goals and ideals. There's room for that interpretation, and many others as well--one thing that Spanish literature of that generation did, and Cervantes did particularly well, was to show the validity of many contradictory interpretations of "truth", because of the basically contradictory nature of life itself.
I think that's one of the reasons that I enjoy GL's music; there's a basic idealism that forms the core of his music, but there is acknowledgment of real life, real problems and failings, as people go about this business of life. I could give many examples of parallels between Cervantes (both in his life and in his works) and GL (also both in his life and in his works) along these lines, but after all, it is summer vacation--class dismissed!
DQ

[RM]

Originally posted by Don Quixote: I could give many examples of parallels between Cervantes (both in his life and in his works) and GL (also both in his life and in his works) along these lines, but after all, it is summer vacation--class dismissed!
DQ

If you find the time, I would love to see at least a a couple of examples. But first, have fun !

RMD

[charlene]

JJ - it is clear you did not say you heard a boo you do say "think" you heard booing.
Others have offered up their thoughts. I don't know who of those who have offered up their thoughts were at Massey that night but I know I didn't hear booing..
It could have been someone yelling "woo-hoo" in praise of the 'tree-huggers."

[charlene]

JJ - it is clear you did not say you heard a boo you do say "think" you heard booing.
Others have offered up their thoughts. I don't know who of those who have offered up their thoughts were at Massey that night but I know I didn't hear booing..
It could have been someone yelling "woo-hoo" in praise of the 'tree-huggers."

[Jesse Joe]

I at the beginning Charlene thought it might be you that yelled, "Corfid Loves You", LOL

I know no one will boo Gord or Suzuki, especially in Toronto's Massey Hall. Nor in the Atlantic Provinces, for that matter no where's.

[Jesse Joe]

I at the beginning Charlene thought it might be you that yelled, "Corfid Loves You", LOL

I know no one will boo Gord or Suzuki, especially in Toronto's Massey Hall. Nor in the Atlantic Provinces, for that matter no where's.

[Don Quixote]

Hi, RMD.
I don't want to do a lot of analysis, but I see these parallels:
"Restless" is a good word, and song, to describe both of them. We know of Gord as the wandering minstrel, the northwoods canoer, the writer of songs about trains, airplanes and highways. Cervantes was born to an itinerant surgeon (not like today's millionaire surgeons--this was a pretty hand-to-mouth existence), who would wander from town to town doing minor medical procedures. That wanderlust was part of Cervantes' character, as he traveled to Italy to study, joined the army (and was wounded in battle), and even applied to go to the New World to seek his fortune (Fortune intervened, his request was denied, and he had to remain in Spain to write what many have called the world's greatest novel). The observations from his travels are infused in his writing, just as they are with Gord's.
Like GL, Cervantes had a somewhat troubled personal life. He married a woman much younger than he, and with whom he did not get along, but also fathered a child out of wedlock and was arrested for fighting a duel and severely wounding his opponent. The biggest link that I see between the two is right here: how they are able to describe beautiful situations and see life from the perspective of the ideal, while also showing human flaws (including their own), as well as depicting both the ideal and the real with well-turned phrases, and sometimes of wink of an eye and good humor; this intermingling of the ideal and the real (think of, for example, "Wild Strawberries")is, as I've stated in another post, one of the defining characteristics of Cervantes. One more interesting (I hope) link that I've seen is how music, women and love are intertwined. Think of "Make Way for the Lady" and "Harmony"--is he talking about a concrete individual, love in general, or the musical muse? In some ways they are fused and become one and the same. In DQ, the knight dedicates his victories to Dulcinea del Toboso, a concrete person (although really pig herder), who becomes the incarnation of love and beauty, and his inspiration for victory.
That's enough for now; I'd be glad to answer any other questions you have.
Cheers,
DQ

[Janice]

I too was a Don Quixote fan before knowing of the song. When my parents and I lived in Central America, I acquired a wood carving of Don Quixote and became very fascinated with the character. I read the book when I was in the 7th grade just because I was interested in learning more about the character Cervantes created - not that I can remember all the details of the book these many years later. I really should pull it out and read it again. I also love the musical, Man Of La Mancha.

DQ, thanks for sharing your thoughts on a topic that I still find most interesting.

[2Much2Lose]

Originally posted by Don Quixote:
....Think of "Make Way for the Lady" and "Harmony"--is he talking about a concrete individual, love in general, or the musical muse? ..... This is how I always think of Inspiration Lady as well. To me it is not a person, but the muse itself coming to visit, seeing him through, frustrating and delighting him at the same time. I have to say the video just didn't do it for me, although even it that it did not concentrate on one particular women, but a compilation of many.

DQ, you really should post more often, I enjoy your thoughts and ideas. I've never read Don Quixote, but now will put it on my to do list.
Jenney

[Jenney]

Originally posted by Don Quixote:
....Think of "Make Way for the Lady" and "Harmony"--is he talking about a concrete individual, love in general, or the musical muse? ..... This is how I always think of Inspiration Lady as well. To me it is not a person, but the muse itself coming to visit, seeing him through, frustrating and delighting him at the same time. I have to say the video just didn't do it for me, although even it that it did not concentrate on one particular women, but a compilation of many.

DQ, you really should post more often, I enjoy your thoughts and ideas. I've never read Don Quixote, but now will put it on my to do list.
Jenney

[Jesse Joe]

Jenney, I saw a Gordon Lightfoot interview on CMT Canada. I have it on VHS & DVD and Stu Jeffries the interviewer, asked him about Inspiration Lady. And the Poet genius answered it was written for his wife Elizabeth. Maybe you did or did not know that, But just thought I would slip that bit of info to you. Maybe you did know that, but choose to look at it the way you describe it to DQ...Jesse.

[ July 20, 2006, 06:57: Message edited by: Jesse -Joe ]

[Jesse Joe]

Jenney, I saw a Gordon Lightfoot interview on CMT Canada. I have it on VHS & DVD and Stu Jeffries the interviewer, asked him about Inspiration Lady. And the Poet genius answered it was written for his wife Elizabeth. Maybe you did or did not know that, But just thought I would slip that bit of info to you. Maybe you did know that, but choose to look at it the way you describe it to DQ...Jesse.

[ July 20, 2006, 06:57: Message edited by: Jesse -Joe ]

[Don Quixote]

Hi, Janice. Thanks for the kind words. I don't post more often because of time limitations (don't know how people like Jesse-Joe and the like find time to do all that posting), and because I know I can get long-winded (it's endemic to the profession). Again, thanks.
DQ

[Shutup and Deal, I'm Losin']

Originally posted by Jenney:
quote:Originally posted by Don Quixote:
....Think of "Make Way for the Lady" and "Harmony"--is he talking about a concrete individual, love in general, or the musical muse? ..... This is how I always think of Inspiration Lady as well. To me it is not a person, but the muse itself coming to visit, seeing him through, frustrating and delighting him at the same time. I have to say the video just didn't do it for me, although even it that it did not concentrate on one particular women, but a compilation of many.

DQ, you really should post more often, I enjoy your thoughts and ideas. I've never read Don Quixote, but now will put it on my to do list.
Jenney [/QUOTE]That was cute how it showed his grandbaby. :)

[LSH]

but interesting to read, DQ, even (especially) the lengthy ones...maybe not everday posting, but a bit more?

[Jesse Joe]

(don't know how people like Jesse-Joe and the like find time to do all that posting), Don Quxote, Early Retirement, and the biggest Gordon Lightfoot fan ever, is the secret for me...Jesse. ;) :eek: :)

[Jesse Joe]

(don't know how people like Jesse-Joe and the like find time to do all that posting), Don Quxote, Early Retirement, and the biggest Gordon Lightfoot fan ever, is the secret for me...Jesse. ;) :eek: :)

[geodeticman]

DQ - Professor - I just read belatedly your kind and throrough responses to others and my Cervantes questions of you. Sorry I came nack to the thread so late. I appreeciate your time spent in response to me and others on Don Quixote. Thanks
geo Steve