Factual Question of The Day (re:GL or Canada)

[~The Gypsy~]

OK, I'm gonna be brave...been a member for a week now and nobody has "flamed" me yet and I noticed the "actives" were getting a little thin, so here goes.

Face it-- us Yanks have a world-wide reputation (and well deserved, IMHO) for being perhaps the most culturally ignorant people on earth on matters outside our own borders. There are exceptions, of course, don't mean to offend. But what does the "average Yank" know beyond our own backyard and especially about that wonderful Northland with which we have a 5,000 mile border. (Is that 8,300 km?)

Also, there are the deprived, like most of my friends, who may recall something about Gord from the 70s but haven't heard a word since through our "lobbyist" U.S. media. As Wes might say "they have no clue..." May they be enlightened!

Now, perhaps here at Florian's garden, we are s-l-i-g-h-t-l-y more astute, given we at least appreciate Gord and surely because of his songs about Canada. But can't we always learn more about the Man and his inspiration? I know I can! Just my opinion, I could be wrong!



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"Is there someone sewing seams through all my hopes..."

[shipwrecked00]

OK, I'm gonna be brave...been a member for a week now and nobody has "flamed" me yet and I noticed the "actives" were getting a little thin, so here goes.

Face it-- us Yanks have a world-wide reputation (and well deserved, IMHO) for being perhaps the most culturally ignorant people on earth on matters outside our own borders. There are exceptions, of course, don't mean to offend. But what does the "average Yank" know beyond our own backyard and especially about that wonderful Northland with which we have a 5,000 mile border. (Is that 8,300 km?)

Also, there are the deprived, like most of my friends, who may recall something about Gord from the 70s but haven't heard a word since through our "lobbyist" U.S. media. As Wes might say "they have no clue..." May they be enlightened!

Now, perhaps here at Florian's garden, we are s-l-i-g-h-t-l-y more astute, given we at least appreciate Gord and surely because of his songs about Canada. But can't we always learn more about the Man and his inspiration? I know I can! Just my opinion, I could be wrong!



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"Is there someone sewing seams through all my hopes..."

[~The Gypsy~]

OK, I'll even start!

How did Mariposa Folk Festival get its' name?


A Spanish name in Canada? Searched the Festival site, saw no mention of it?

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[shipwrecked00]

OK, I'll even start!

How did Mariposa Folk Festival get its' name?


A Spanish name in Canada? Searched the Festival site, saw no mention of it?

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[Tom]

Okay Shipwrecked, I'll jump in with both feet with you. (Oooh, don't that sound fun?) What is the big beef between Quebec and the rest of Canada? Why do they want to become their own little nation? Seceeding is not always the best answer . . . trust us on this one!

Mary Ann

ps: yes, I know this isn't about Gord, but I've always wondered about the above and this looked like a good place to find out.

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[Mary Ann]

Okay Shipwrecked, I'll jump in with both feet with you. (Oooh, don't that sound fun?) What is the big beef between Quebec and the rest of Canada? Why do they want to become their own little nation? Seceeding is not always the best answer . . . trust us on this one!

Mary Ann

ps: yes, I know this isn't about Gord, but I've always wondered about the above and this looked like a good place to find out.

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[~The Gypsy~]

No beef, Abe preserved the Union and Nous Vivons preserved Canada. Don't think you can call Quebec "little"--c'est un péché!!

Both feet, eh? Mind if I catch y'all? http://www.corfid.com/ubb/cool.gif Can't see though, eyes still shipwrecked.

And speaking of Mountains, Mary Ann, is "God's Own Drunk" still up there on Stone Mountain? Also, as I recall, Gord does know your roots pretty well--who could not "love your Spanish Moss...Georgia pine and Ripple wine..." I have a concert story on that tune I'll trade for that popsicle...or mint.

Still wonderin' though, how Mariposa got it's name....



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"Is there someone sewing seams through all my hopes..."

[shipwrecked00]

No beef, Abe preserved the Union and Nous Vivons preserved Canada. Don't think you can call Quebec "little"--c'est un péché!!

Both feet, eh? Mind if I catch y'all? http://www.corfid.com/ubb/cool.gif Can't see though, eyes still shipwrecked.

And speaking of Mountains, Mary Ann, is "God's Own Drunk" still up there on Stone Mountain? Also, as I recall, Gord does know your roots pretty well--who could not "love your Spanish Moss...Georgia pine and Ripple wine..." I have a concert story on that tune I'll trade for that popsicle...or mint.

Still wonderin' though, how Mariposa got it's name....



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"Is there someone sewing seams through all my hopes..."

[Tom]

Shipwrecked,
Okay . . . you're really making me feel stupid. What is Nous Vivons- my french is rusty. And if you tell me its a person, I'm going to have to learn how to fetch the red-faced smilie guy!!! (lol) And that other thing too - c'est un peche? But I still don't have an answer to MY question. What was the squabble all about? Didn't mean to offend anyone by saying "little", btw.

As for God's Own Drunk, no, "Uncle Teddie" cleaned up when he started dating Jane Fonda . . . oh, that wasn't the drunk you were refering to (haha!).

And the cherry popcicle is all yours . . . sorry Wes, you didn't move fast enough!


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[Mary Ann]

Shipwrecked,
Okay . . . you're really making me feel stupid. What is Nous Vivons- my french is rusty. And if you tell me its a person, I'm going to have to learn how to fetch the red-faced smilie guy!!! (lol) And that other thing too - c'est un peche? But I still don't have an answer to MY question. What was the squabble all about? Didn't mean to offend anyone by saying "little", btw.

As for God's Own Drunk, no, "Uncle Teddie" cleaned up when he started dating Jane Fonda . . . oh, that wasn't the drunk you were refering to (haha!).

And the cherry popcicle is all yours . . . sorry Wes, you didn't move fast enough!


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[charlene]

Mariposa is a fictional town created by the author and humourist-Stephen Leacock in 1912. He came to the Orillia area from England when he was 6. When he wrote "Sunshine Sketches of a Little Town", he wrote about the ideal, charming community of small town life. It was patterned after Orillia. There are many sites to read about but this one seems to serve the purpose:http://www.nlc-bnc.ca/leacock/little.htm

As far as the Quebec/French - Canada/English thing - that's been going on since the 1800's. It started up again big time in the 70's and again about 8-10 years ago. Some French people in Quebec want to separate from Canada because they feel they are treated as second class citizens. This is in large part because the rest of the country does not speak French. The only province that is officially bilingual is New Brunswick. Quebec has "language police" that ensure that any signs etc. have the French words larger than the English and people are fined if they do not comply. French is the language in schools and there isn't much of a choice about it like here in Ontario and the rest of the country. They want to "leave" but still want use of our money, our military, our government etc.!
That would be the central core reason for the trouble I believe. I have listened to it for so long I have turned a deaf ear and don't really give a rat's ass if they go to the moon! Canada is not a melting pot like the States. Immigrants don't""assimilate" into Canadian culture. Immigrants come to Canada and continue on their customs,culture,language,religion etc. We are a "Mosaic" of people. We don't want to offend anyone. My grandparents were immigrants 70 years ago and when they hit the shores of Canada they bent down and kissed the ground for the opportunity to live here. They worked hard, learned English and never, ever expected Canada to bow to their whims. Now it's completely different. We have changed the lyrics in our anthem, changed our Mounted Police/Metro Police uniforms to conform to other religions that dictate turbans must be worn, etc. I know if I went to some of these countries and wanted to Canadianize their culture I'd have my butt back home pretty fast. It seems there is no acknowledgement that Canadians (even tho we initially were all immigrants) have a history and it needs to be respected. Not changed and thrown out because some people find it doesn't fit with their lives. If life was so terrible where you came from why do you want it to be the same here in Canada?
Helping people and learning about their cultures makes us all better people but when it is taken to court and laws are changed etc. I have to shake my head and wonder. The States is more demanding of the immigrants generally - come here, be who you are but damn it, you are in America now! I like it - we even heave people in other provinces being prouder of their provincial heritage than their Canadian heritage! I am a Canadian first, then I am from Ontario, then I am from Toronto. When I travel I always say I am from Canada first.
The folks in Quebec can hit the road - they will never have it as good! It's sad because it is a beautiful province and a lot of people are not for this separation stuff at all. It must be very hard on them to live there and see the hatred and strife.
A bit of a rant, but hey, you asked eh???
LOL
CHAR

[charlene]

Mariposa is a fictional town created by the author and humourist-Stephen Leacock in 1912. He came to the Orillia area from England when he was 6. When he wrote "Sunshine Sketches of a Little Town", he wrote about the ideal, charming community of small town life. It was patterned after Orillia. There are many sites to read about but this one seems to serve the purpose:http://www.nlc-bnc.ca/leacock/little.htm

As far as the Quebec/French - Canada/English thing - that's been going on since the 1800's. It started up again big time in the 70's and again about 8-10 years ago. Some French people in Quebec want to separate from Canada because they feel they are treated as second class citizens. This is in large part because the rest of the country does not speak French. The only province that is officially bilingual is New Brunswick. Quebec has "language police" that ensure that any signs etc. have the French words larger than the English and people are fined if they do not comply. French is the language in schools and there isn't much of a choice about it like here in Ontario and the rest of the country. They want to "leave" but still want use of our money, our military, our government etc.!
That would be the central core reason for the trouble I believe. I have listened to it for so long I have turned a deaf ear and don't really give a rat's ass if they go to the moon! Canada is not a melting pot like the States. Immigrants don't""assimilate" into Canadian culture. Immigrants come to Canada and continue on their customs,culture,language,religion etc. We are a "Mosaic" of people. We don't want to offend anyone. My grandparents were immigrants 70 years ago and when they hit the shores of Canada they bent down and kissed the ground for the opportunity to live here. They worked hard, learned English and never, ever expected Canada to bow to their whims. Now it's completely different. We have changed the lyrics in our anthem, changed our Mounted Police/Metro Police uniforms to conform to other religions that dictate turbans must be worn, etc. I know if I went to some of these countries and wanted to Canadianize their culture I'd have my butt back home pretty fast. It seems there is no acknowledgement that Canadians (even tho we initially were all immigrants) have a history and it needs to be respected. Not changed and thrown out because some people find it doesn't fit with their lives. If life was so terrible where you came from why do you want it to be the same here in Canada?
Helping people and learning about their cultures makes us all better people but when it is taken to court and laws are changed etc. I have to shake my head and wonder. The States is more demanding of the immigrants generally - come here, be who you are but damn it, you are in America now! I like it - we even heave people in other provinces being prouder of their provincial heritage than their Canadian heritage! I am a Canadian first, then I am from Ontario, then I am from Toronto. When I travel I always say I am from Canada first.
The folks in Quebec can hit the road - they will never have it as good! It's sad because it is a beautiful province and a lot of people are not for this separation stuff at all. It must be very hard on them to live there and see the hatred and strife.
A bit of a rant, but hey, you asked eh???
LOL
CHAR

[~The Gypsy~]

Char--WOW! Haven't seen an opinion/factoid like that since a certain concert in March!

Mary Ann--sorry--did NOT intend to make you feel...well, what you said.

Guess you haven't been on the "Summer Side of Life" for a while, track 7, "Nous Vivons Ensemble". Bet it was omission of "Ensemble" that threw you. Also on Songbook.

C'est un Péché means "it's a sin" or similar. Ask BeauSoleil in New Orleans.

"God's Own Drunk" is a Jimmy Buffet "song/story" he used to do (about 20 min. long) So it was TED who stole the still off Stone Mt., eh? Wont see that on CNN!

And Charlene, I'll forward my popsicle to you for the answer. Interesting, a Brit author using Spanish; Mariposa = butterfly, if I remember. Also, you and Mary Ann can start those Mint Juleps anytime. I never had one either--sheltered adulthood, or is it one of those "chick drinks" Shania started? lol

Have a wonderful Festival--I'm sure he'll do "Beautiful" -- just for your Birthday. A verse for every year, right? http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif



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"Is there someone sewing seams through all my hopes..."

[shipwrecked00]

Char--WOW! Haven't seen an opinion/factoid like that since a certain concert in March!

Mary Ann--sorry--did NOT intend to make you feel...well, what you said.

Guess you haven't been on the "Summer Side of Life" for a while, track 7, "Nous Vivons Ensemble". Bet it was omission of "Ensemble" that threw you. Also on Songbook.

C'est un Péché means "it's a sin" or similar. Ask BeauSoleil in New Orleans.

"God's Own Drunk" is a Jimmy Buffet "song/story" he used to do (about 20 min. long) So it was TED who stole the still off Stone Mt., eh? Wont see that on CNN!

And Charlene, I'll forward my popsicle to you for the answer. Interesting, a Brit author using Spanish; Mariposa = butterfly, if I remember. Also, you and Mary Ann can start those Mint Juleps anytime. I never had one either--sheltered adulthood, or is it one of those "chick drinks" Shania started? lol

Have a wonderful Festival--I'm sure he'll do "Beautiful" -- just for your Birthday. A verse for every year, right? http://www.corfid.com/ubb/smile.gif



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"Is there someone sewing seams through all my hopes..."

[Tom]

Thank you, Char! Your explanation was exceptional. I had no idea the feud had been going on for so long. I only heard about it within the last couple of years. In light of things, I certainly understand your feelings on the matter. Thank God I don't make my living in politics! I'd fail miserably. Char, you are a Lady and a scholar! I learn something new everytime I talk to you.

Shipwrecked,
You are right about Summer Side of Life (the album). I don't have that one. It wasn't until I acquired Songbook that I even heard of Nous Vivons Ensemble. Thanks for the French lesson. Unfortunately, I've only retained learning things like "It's lunch time", "Shut the door, your mouth, your zipper","happy birthday", "What time is it?" and other useless phrases. Oh yes, and "Je ne sais pas!"

And one last thing, Shipwrecked . . . don't ever put Charlene and I in the same catagory with Shania ever again. We're REAL women. She's just a blow-up doll!
Right, Char? (LOL)

[Mary Ann]

Thank you, Char! Your explanation was exceptional. I had no idea the feud had been going on for so long. I only heard about it within the last couple of years. In light of things, I certainly understand your feelings on the matter. Thank God I don't make my living in politics! I'd fail miserably. Char, you are a Lady and a scholar! I learn something new everytime I talk to you.

Shipwrecked,
You are right about Summer Side of Life (the album). I don't have that one. It wasn't until I acquired Songbook that I even heard of Nous Vivons Ensemble. Thanks for the French lesson. Unfortunately, I've only retained learning things like "It's lunch time", "Shut the door, your mouth, your zipper","happy birthday", "What time is it?" and other useless phrases. Oh yes, and "Je ne sais pas!"

And one last thing, Shipwrecked . . . don't ever put Charlene and I in the same catagory with Shania ever again. We're REAL women. She's just a blow-up doll!
Right, Char? (LOL)

[charlene]

Mary Ann,
I am emberrassed at the lyrics and "act" that Shania puts on. She is a beautiful, beautiful woman and needs to grow up and stop the crap. She has a lot of real talent, a great voice and can be more than just a scantily clad bimbo.
She's been through a lot in her life and she can write some pretty good lyrics but the hyped up, hot mama act is getting old.
Having said that - I sure would like to be built like that! LOL
Inside this body there is one just like hers!!
I guess every artist has an evolution to go through and even our Gord had some times that were tough. Shania isn't having a tough time now but when the "sizzle" is gone it will be do or die.
Char

[charlene]

Mary Ann,
I am emberrassed at the lyrics and "act" that Shania puts on. She is a beautiful, beautiful woman and needs to grow up and stop the crap. She has a lot of real talent, a great voice and can be more than just a scantily clad bimbo.
She's been through a lot in her life and she can write some pretty good lyrics but the hyped up, hot mama act is getting old.
Having said that - I sure would like to be built like that! LOL
Inside this body there is one just like hers!!
I guess every artist has an evolution to go through and even our Gord had some times that were tough. Shania isn't having a tough time now but when the "sizzle" is gone it will be do or die.
Char

[Tom]

Char, Shipwrecked:

Oops! I've done it again. My weird sense of humor doesn't go over too well in type apparently. Most of my comments are made tongue-in-cheek and are never intended as criticism. In the future I will strive harder to make sure there is no doubt of when I'm joking around.

With sincere apologies,
Mary Ann

[Mary Ann]

Char, Shipwrecked:

Oops! I've done it again. My weird sense of humor doesn't go over too well in type apparently. Most of my comments are made tongue-in-cheek and are never intended as criticism. In the future I will strive harder to make sure there is no doubt of when I'm joking around.

With sincere apologies,
Mary Ann

[charlene]

Mary Ann,
I know you were funnin!
I thought I'd express how I felt about her too!
Don't worry....be happy!! Be happy you're not Shania!
Char
LOL

[charlene]

Mary Ann,
I know you were funnin!
I thought I'd express how I felt about her too!
Don't worry....be happy!! Be happy you're not Shania!
Char
LOL

[~The Gypsy~]

Mary Ann and Charlene (Realwomen)
I never had ANY intent of of making S***** a topic around here. I was more interested in the drink (and I don't even drink), figured she IS a Canadian natural resource -- it's my own "dry humor" that's the problem here, tho I did put a LOL after it! Anyway, your humor is great, Char chose to write and if that's what the "apology" is about--not needed.

Let's get back to Gord and how he's gonna sing all those verses of "Beautiful" tomorrow, right Char? Are the "flash flood" warnings posted yet for your crying? http://www.corfid.com/ubb/wink.gif Enjoy!


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"Is there someone sewing seams through all my hopes..."

[shipwrecked00]

Mary Ann and Charlene (Realwomen)
I never had ANY intent of of making S***** a topic around here. I was more interested in the drink (and I don't even drink), figured she IS a Canadian natural resource -- it's my own "dry humor" that's the problem here, tho I did put a LOL after it! Anyway, your humor is great, Char chose to write and if that's what the "apology" is about--not needed.

Let's get back to Gord and how he's gonna sing all those verses of "Beautiful" tomorrow, right Char? Are the "flash flood" warnings posted yet for your crying? http://www.corfid.com/ubb/wink.gif Enjoy!


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"Is there someone sewing seams through all my hopes..."

[~The Gypsy~]

My Q of the Day:


How much airplay (radio) does Gord get now, where you live?


I realize many of us play only CDs or tape, but radio still permeates our culture, at least where I am.

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[shipwrecked00]

My Q of the Day:


How much airplay (radio) does Gord get now, where you live?


I realize many of us play only CDs or tape, but radio still permeates our culture, at least where I am.

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[charlene]

I am practically cried out now! Putting together the video clips has just about killed me! Good lord that man is wonderful!
I want to hear SO many songs and there never is enough time - even back in the 70's there wasn't enough time!!
Radio up here plays Gord on the Mellow POP sort of stations. I hardly listen to radio at all and when I do it's a news programme or a ball game! I hate hearing the same drivel over and over and over and over again! There is so much "noise" that is trying to pass as talent out there now it makes me sad for the kids today growing up and actually thinking it's music. It will not endure and I know damn straight that 30 years from now this stuff won't be played on any nostalgia stations! The artists are more of celebrities/personalities, sex objects than talent. That won't endure for long.
Crap I say! It's almost all crap!
Like Gord says - A good song is one that you like to and want ot play over and over again. And likewise it's one that you want to hear over and over again. Those songs are few and far between nowadays.
I'd rather watch a baseball game tha listen to today's radio. But then again I'd rather watch a baseball game than practically anything else!
All -Star game on Tuesday!!! David Wells and Carlos Delgado - Jays!!!! Love the ballgames!
Char

[charlene]

I am practically cried out now! Putting together the video clips has just about killed me! Good lord that man is wonderful!
I want to hear SO many songs and there never is enough time - even back in the 70's there wasn't enough time!!
Radio up here plays Gord on the Mellow POP sort of stations. I hardly listen to radio at all and when I do it's a news programme or a ball game! I hate hearing the same drivel over and over and over and over again! There is so much "noise" that is trying to pass as talent out there now it makes me sad for the kids today growing up and actually thinking it's music. It will not endure and I know damn straight that 30 years from now this stuff won't be played on any nostalgia stations! The artists are more of celebrities/personalities, sex objects than talent. That won't endure for long.
Crap I say! It's almost all crap!
Like Gord says - A good song is one that you like to and want ot play over and over again. And likewise it's one that you want to hear over and over again. Those songs are few and far between nowadays.
I'd rather watch a baseball game tha listen to today's radio. But then again I'd rather watch a baseball game than practically anything else!
All -Star game on Tuesday!!! David Wells and Carlos Delgado - Jays!!!! Love the ballgames!
Char

[Tom]

Speaking of baseball, I once heard that the tri-colored "M" on the Montreal Expo's cap also represents the lowercase letters "clb" which stands for Canadian League Baseball. How true is that?
I too am a big baseball fan and will be watching the All-Star game, only I'll be cheering on the Jones Boys and the Big Cat. "Chop Chop"

[Mary Ann]

Speaking of baseball, I once heard that the tri-colored "M" on the Montreal Expo's cap also represents the lowercase letters "clb" which stands for Canadian League Baseball. How true is that?
I too am a big baseball fan and will be watching the All-Star game, only I'll be cheering on the Jones Boys and the Big Cat. "Chop Chop"

[CanadaGirl38]

Now this is more like it!

Just poked through the thread - liked all of it and char - you are right. I'm hoping that when the Jays play my beloved Mets come World Series time that they have Gord singing "O, Canada" for one of the games - heck, for all of the games!

[fezo]

Now this is more like it!

Just poked through the thread - liked all of it and char - you are right. I'm hoping that when the Jays play my beloved Mets come World Series time that they have Gord singing "O, Canada" for one of the games - heck, for all of the games!

[Tom]

Oooooohh! Gordon singing "Oh Canada". That would be great. Stirs up the butterflies in my stomach just thinking about it. But Fezo, sad to say and sorry to report . . . the Mets won't be playing in the World Series. Nope, uh-uh, no way! They would have to get past my guys and that ain't gonna happen. The Braves may be looking pathetic now, but its still early. We shall over come!

[Mary Ann]

Oooooohh! Gordon singing "Oh Canada". That would be great. Stirs up the butterflies in my stomach just thinking about it. But Fezo, sad to say and sorry to report . . . the Mets won't be playing in the World Series. Nope, uh-uh, no way! They would have to get past my guys and that ain't gonna happen. The Braves may be looking pathetic now, but its still early. We shall over come!

[Tom]

Oh, my gosh! The more I think about it, the more I like the idea. Guess what Char- I know the guys in Braves PR who books the entertainers who perform the National Anthem at Turner Field. I could put a bug in his ear, you could do the same on your end. One way or the other, Gord singing at the World Series could be a dream come true. Okay, everyone start cheering for the Jays and Braves!!!

[Mary Ann]

Oh, my gosh! The more I think about it, the more I like the idea. Guess what Char- I know the guys in Braves PR who books the entertainers who perform the National Anthem at Turner Field. I could put a bug in his ear, you could do the same on your end. One way or the other, Gord singing at the World Series could be a dream come true. Okay, everyone start cheering for the Jays and Braves!!!

[CanadaGirl38]

THE BRAVES?!?!?

Man, you guys are spoiled.....what is it - 9 titles now? Give someone else a chance....

Hey if you need someone to sing the National Anthem, I'm set - I'll even wear a Braves hat as much as that would kill me. To hear my lovely voice, try fmoworld.com/fezo

Go, Jays!

[fezo]

THE BRAVES?!?!?

Man, you guys are spoiled.....what is it - 9 titles now? Give someone else a chance....

Hey if you need someone to sing the National Anthem, I'm set - I'll even wear a Braves hat as much as that would kill me. To hear my lovely voice, try fmoworld.com/fezo

Go, Jays!

[vlmagee]

For those of you plotting to have Gord sing the national anthems at the World Series, you should know that he already has sung them - both of them, and the Canadian in English and French - at a preseason game in FL between the Jays and the NY Yankees. This was in early March 1999, when GL was touring in FL. He sang a few bars at one of the concerts before the day of the game (saying he was practicing), and also said that Ian Tyson had already warned him that when singing the US anthem he must "Start low". Afterwards, he also told the story that Steinbrenner asked him to wear a Yankees jacket and he declined saying that he "had to live with these guys (the Jays)". No, I wasn't there, but other fans reported back about this. Unfortunately, nobody seemed to get it taped - we assume that the game was broadcast on the radio locally. Anyhow, I'm not a big baseball fan, but that would be a game that even I would watch!

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Visit my GL web site at gordonlightfoot.com (http://gordonlightfoot.com)

[LouiseAnne]

Hey, Shipwreck,
I don't know about a cherry popsicle (lol -- Wes, have you changed? I thought it was SNOWCONES you're into ....), but I'll trade a chocolate bar for that concert story!!!!!

(I'm sure Mary Ann can relate to that song ... "Georgia pine and Ripple wine ... kisses mixed with moonshine and red clay ....." -- Just imagine it ... Gord and moonshine and red clay and .... okay I'll stop THAT now.)


And, Val, lol (PLEASE don't get offended ... this comment is not at you personally, but I gotta say it ...) STEINBRENNER ...... GRRRRRR. He has a bunch of race horses and he just runs 'em right into the ground and buys more to do the same thing with. They're expendable to him. So, just a little FYI about Steinbrenner. Hope no one's mad at me. About Gord and the jacket ... it's so typical of him to show such great tact. What a perfect response. And causing no offense to either team. He is truly a diplomat.

Char,
About the Quebec thing ... it's funny it came up because I was talking to Gord one time and he brought it up and it was kind of odd because he said it was the Indians that were really behind it. I really don't know too much about it myself, but I thought you might be the person to ask about this.

Stay loose, eh?

LAMS

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"Love and maple syrup
go together like the
sticky winds of winter
when they meet....
If you go into the forest
Gaze up through the trees
The sky is white.
You can understand
What makes the forest
Greet the man
Like a mother's only
child ..."

[loveandmaplesyrup]

Hey, Shipwreck,
I don't know about a cherry popsicle (lol -- Wes, have you changed? I thought it was SNOWCONES you're into ....), but I'll trade a chocolate bar for that concert story!!!!!

(I'm sure Mary Ann can relate to that song ... "Georgia pine and Ripple wine ... kisses mixed with moonshine and red clay ....." -- Just imagine it ... Gord and moonshine and red clay and .... okay I'll stop THAT now.)


And, Val, lol (PLEASE don't get offended ... this comment is not at you personally, but I gotta say it ...) STEINBRENNER ...... GRRRRRR. He has a bunch of race horses and he just runs 'em right into the ground and buys more to do the same thing with. They're expendable to him. So, just a little FYI about Steinbrenner. Hope no one's mad at me. About Gord and the jacket ... it's so typical of him to show such great tact. What a perfect response. And causing no offense to either team. He is truly a diplomat.

Char,
About the Quebec thing ... it's funny it came up because I was talking to Gord one time and he brought it up and it was kind of odd because he said it was the Indians that were really behind it. I really don't know too much about it myself, but I thought you might be the person to ask about this.

Stay loose, eh?

LAMS

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"Love and maple syrup
go together like the
sticky winds of winter
when they meet....
If you go into the forest
Gaze up through the trees
The sky is white.
You can understand
What makes the forest
Greet the man
Like a mother's only
child ..."

[CanadaGirl38]

Hey, LAMS - glad to see that post! Any enemy of Steinbrenner's is a friend of mine!

The way to build a good, lasting team is to do (it kills me to say this, Mary Ann) - what the Braves do!

[fezo]

Hey, LAMS - glad to see that post! Any enemy of Steinbrenner's is a friend of mine!

The way to build a good, lasting team is to do (it kills me to say this, Mary Ann) - what the Braves do!

[LouiseAnne]

Hey, Fezo,
I'm afraid I'm his enemy for a different reason. It really has nothing to do with baseball and I hope Florian will forgive me for "bashing" him (Steinbrenner, not Florian) on this site." But my CLAWS come out for equine abuse, too.

Okay. I promised to be a lady, so I will say no more.

Thanks for responding, though.

Stay loose, eh?

LAMS

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"Love and maple syrup
go together like the
sticky winds of winter
when they meet....
If you go into the forest
Gaze up through the trees
The sky is white.
You can understand
What makes the forest
Greet the man
Like a mother's only
child ..."

[loveandmaplesyrup]

Hey, Fezo,
I'm afraid I'm his enemy for a different reason. It really has nothing to do with baseball and I hope Florian will forgive me for "bashing" him (Steinbrenner, not Florian) on this site." But my CLAWS come out for equine abuse, too.

Okay. I promised to be a lady, so I will say no more.

Thanks for responding, though.

Stay loose, eh?

LAMS

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"Love and maple syrup
go together like the
sticky winds of winter
when they meet....
If you go into the forest
Gaze up through the trees
The sky is white.
You can understand
What makes the forest
Greet the man
Like a mother's only
child ..."

[charlene]

About the French/English/Indian thing.- This weekend in Orillia I took pics of some beautiful monuments along the waterfront. One was to Samuel de Champlain. He was a settler in the early 1800's who tried to teach the Indians English and change their religion to have them believe in God etc. The French settlers were also trying to become friends with the Indians and they all clashed at different times. The English, French and Natives fought for years over land, hunting and fishing rights etc. There is a beautiful monument to this in Oirllia depicting a man of the cloth with a cross in his hand and two Indians at his feet and a soldier and two Indians with a peace pipe - these are all done in bronze. The top of the monument is a huge bronze statue of Samuel de Champlain. It is a very impressive and majestic memorial. It is one of the most beautiful statues in Canada.It was erected in 1925. I also took pics of some cannon that were date 1810. Two years prior to the war of 1812.! I will post them when I get the pics processed.

[charlene]

About the French/English/Indian thing.- This weekend in Orillia I took pics of some beautiful monuments along the waterfront. One was to Samuel de Champlain. He was a settler in the early 1800's who tried to teach the Indians English and change their religion to have them believe in God etc. The French settlers were also trying to become friends with the Indians and they all clashed at different times. The English, French and Natives fought for years over land, hunting and fishing rights etc. There is a beautiful monument to this in Oirllia depicting a man of the cloth with a cross in his hand and two Indians at his feet and a soldier and two Indians with a peace pipe - these are all done in bronze. The top of the monument is a huge bronze statue of Samuel de Champlain. It is a very impressive and majestic memorial. It is one of the most beautiful statues in Canada.It was erected in 1925. I also took pics of some cannon that were date 1810. Two years prior to the war of 1812.! I will post them when I get the pics processed.

[Wingdrops]

Been away for a while and need to respond to the baseball stuff. Before we go any further, let me disclose that I am a diehard Yankee fan.

Hey watch out!

Now that I've dodg(er)ed the rotten tomatoes, let me make a few comments.

Char - you're lucky that you have David Wells up in Toronto. I for one certainly opposed the Wells-for-Clemens swap. Wells was is a guy you can root for -- like the current edition of the Yankees -- nice guys without huge egos who really try hard.

As for Atlanta winning nine titles? I don't think so. How about 1? That is, unless second place is good enough. (Sorry, that's my Yankee side speaking through 25 titles, even more than Les Habs up in Montreal.)

As for Steinbrenner, at least he's mellowed. As for him merely buying teams, four of our superstars (Bernie Williams, Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera, Jorge Posada) and several others are home-grown, not purchased in trades. The Braves have bought just as many players as the Yanks. As for the horses, never heard about the mistreatment but if it's true, it's loathsome. I'm a horse-owner myself (for my wife and daughter tho -- I don't ride but I like "Daq" (short for "Nasdaq")).

Anyway, Gord can sing the National Anthem (either one, or both) anytime he wants up at the House that Ruth Built, whether or not he will wear a Yankees jacket.

Had my say. Don't hate me just cause I had World Series tix.

LOL (please).

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"And the laughter came too easy for life to pass me by." - SDYS

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[2Much2Lose]

Been away for a while and need to respond to the baseball stuff. Before we go any further, let me disclose that I am a diehard Yankee fan.

Hey watch out!

Now that I've dodg(er)ed the rotten tomatoes, let me make a few comments.

Char - you're lucky that you have David Wells up in Toronto. I for one certainly opposed the Wells-for-Clemens swap. Wells was is a guy you can root for -- like the current edition of the Yankees -- nice guys without huge egos who really try hard.

As for Atlanta winning nine titles? I don't think so. How about 1? That is, unless second place is good enough. (Sorry, that's my Yankee side speaking through 25 titles, even more than Les Habs up in Montreal.)

As for Steinbrenner, at least he's mellowed. As for him merely buying teams, four of our superstars (Bernie Williams, Derek Jeter, Mariano Rivera, Jorge Posada) and several others are home-grown, not purchased in trades. The Braves have bought just as many players as the Yanks. As for the horses, never heard about the mistreatment but if it's true, it's loathsome. I'm a horse-owner myself (for my wife and daughter tho -- I don't ride but I like "Daq" (short for "Nasdaq")).

Anyway, Gord can sing the National Anthem (either one, or both) anytime he wants up at the House that Ruth Built, whether or not he will wear a Yankees jacket.

Had my say. Don't hate me just cause I had World Series tix.

LOL (please).

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"And the laughter came too easy for life to pass me by." - SDYS

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[charlene]

2much2lose - we were glad to see Roger "all about me" Clemens leave this city. He is one egotistical jerk! I laughed myself silly when I saw he received his series ring with Wells number instead of his!!! TOO FUNNY!
Boomer is playing Big Daddy to the young arms in the bullpen and I think he's enjoying it! You won't get Roer showing anyone his stuff - cuz he's pretty well lost it!
I don't know if I could take it - Gord singing the Canadian anthem - I'd just dissolve into a big puddle right onto the Skydome astroturf! LOL
Char

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[charlene]

2much2lose - we were glad to see Roger "all about me" Clemens leave this city. He is one egotistical jerk! I laughed myself silly when I saw he received his series ring with Wells number instead of his!!! TOO FUNNY!
Boomer is playing Big Daddy to the young arms in the bullpen and I think he's enjoying it! You won't get Roer showing anyone his stuff - cuz he's pretty well lost it!
I don't know if I could take it - Gord singing the Canadian anthem - I'd just dissolve into a big puddle right onto the Skydome astroturf! LOL
Char

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[Ferret Mike]

Just catchig up on the latest here.
Mary Ann, please get yourself a copy of Summer Side of Life and listen to it five times in the first week. At least 3 of those times should be when you can really listen. If I'm wrong, well, I can't think of an appropriate punishment but maybe you can.

I've always liked Nous Vivans Ensemble, but being a culturally deprived Yank, I still do not know the literal French translation, though. I do know a little of the history--"On the Plains of Abraham, when they put the lamb to die--You and I were asleep in the rock of ages. . ." If I remember correctly, the pivotal battle of the French and Indian War fought in the 1750's was on the Plains of Abraham, under the walls of Quebec City. The British under General Wolfe won (although Wolfe suffered a mortal wound) over the French and Montcalm and the French basically lost Canada to the English.

All that's from memory, so one of you Canadians feel free to grade my paper.

Incidentally, I was at a party a month or two ago and met a woman originally from Canada, and asked her about the separatist movement and her response was: "Let 'em go!"
I was alittle surprised, but maybe that is a prevailing feeling? I was going to ask about Gord next, but never got the chance. . .

Oh, and did I remember to suggest that MARY ANN MUST HAVE SUMMER SIDE OF LIFE.

[jay]

Just catchig up on the latest here.
Mary Ann, please get yourself a copy of Summer Side of Life and listen to it five times in the first week. At least 3 of those times should be when you can really listen. If I'm wrong, well, I can't think of an appropriate punishment but maybe you can.

I've always liked Nous Vivans Ensemble, but being a culturally deprived Yank, I still do not know the literal French translation, though. I do know a little of the history--"On the Plains of Abraham, when they put the lamb to die--You and I were asleep in the rock of ages. . ." If I remember correctly, the pivotal battle of the French and Indian War fought in the 1750's was on the Plains of Abraham, under the walls of Quebec City. The British under General Wolfe won (although Wolfe suffered a mortal wound) over the French and Montcalm and the French basically lost Canada to the English.

All that's from memory, so one of you Canadians feel free to grade my paper.

Incidentally, I was at a party a month or two ago and met a woman originally from Canada, and asked her about the separatist movement and her response was: "Let 'em go!"
I was alittle surprised, but maybe that is a prevailing feeling? I was going to ask about Gord next, but never got the chance. . .

Oh, and did I remember to suggest that MARY ANN MUST HAVE SUMMER SIDE OF LIFE.
________
Lovely Wendie (http://www.lovelywendie99.com/)

[CanadaGirl38]

Well, for starters.. EVERYONE should have Summer Side of Life! If I were starting my collection from scratch that would be one of the very first items. In fact the first two GL albums that I bought on CD were that and Don Quixote (on the same day, though technically I picked up DQ first....and if I could have only bought one that day it would have been DQ...)

Anyway, back to the subject at hand - I don't suspect us ol' USA folk would ever get a "this is how it is" answer because it's that type of issue - everybody's got an opinion. I remember talking with some folks on my one visit to Vancouver. There was a popular opinion at the time that if Quebec went their own way that the Maratimes would be eaten up by the US and become states. There were more than a few who felt that Canada would not survive if Quebec left and you'd have a giant US all around it. I don't buy that myself - I think there is far too much of a separate Canadian identity taht just would not allow that and I consider that a very good thing.

That all said, I suspect that I'll not live to see the day of an independent Quebec - too many issues to block it. Then again, what do I know? I never would have predicted teh Berlin Wall coming down....

[fezo]

Well, for starters.. EVERYONE should have Summer Side of Life! If I were starting my collection from scratch that would be one of the very first items. In fact the first two GL albums that I bought on CD were that and Don Quixote (on the same day, though technically I picked up DQ first....and if I could have only bought one that day it would have been DQ...)

Anyway, back to the subject at hand - I don't suspect us ol' USA folk would ever get a "this is how it is" answer because it's that type of issue - everybody's got an opinion. I remember talking with some folks on my one visit to Vancouver. There was a popular opinion at the time that if Quebec went their own way that the Maratimes would be eaten up by the US and become states. There were more than a few who felt that Canada would not survive if Quebec left and you'd have a giant US all around it. I don't buy that myself - I think there is far too much of a separate Canadian identity taht just would not allow that and I consider that a very good thing.

That all said, I suspect that I'll not live to see the day of an independent Quebec - too many issues to block it. Then again, what do I know? I never would have predicted teh Berlin Wall coming down....

[Tom]

Hi all!
I've been the proverbial "Mountains and Mary Ann" this past week in North Carolina so I'm just now responding to all these great posts. Wow! I didn't know I'd have everyone digging into their history books for answers to my question about Quebec. Thanks Jay, Char & Fezo for those bits of Canadian history.
Jay,
Just to ease your mind . . . I have been trying for ages to find "Summer Side of Life" but can't find it anywhere. That one and "Salute". I feel so unworthy!!!
Fezo,
If anyone can be called spoiled with pennent fever it's those DAMN YANKEES!
(Sorry, 2Much)The Braves might have been in the World Series 9 years running, but they always start to fall apart in the second round of NLCS so by the time they reach the WS, they're already on the skids. Maybe this year, huh?

[Mary Ann]

Hi all!
I've been the proverbial "Mountains and Mary Ann" this past week in North Carolina so I'm just now responding to all these great posts. Wow! I didn't know I'd have everyone digging into their history books for answers to my question about Quebec. Thanks Jay, Char & Fezo for those bits of Canadian history.
Jay,
Just to ease your mind . . . I have been trying for ages to find "Summer Side of Life" but can't find it anywhere. That one and "Salute". I feel so unworthy!!!
Fezo,
If anyone can be called spoiled with pennent fever it's those DAMN YANKEES!
(Sorry, 2Much)The Braves might have been in the World Series 9 years running, but they always start to fall apart in the second round of NLCS so by the time they reach the WS, they're already on the skids. Maybe this year, huh?

[Janice]

Hey Mary Ann, welcome home.

Unfortunately, Salute is a hard one to find because it is still not released on CD. However, Summer Side Of Life is available as I type at Amazon.com and no doubt it's available at some of the other online shopping sites as well. Since you can't find it locally in the stores, you might want to try one of these places.

Janice

[Dan]

MaryAnn,

I just did some comparison shopping at all the sites listed on Florian's 'where to buy cd's page' and it seems that CDworld has the best prices. I just ordered IYCRMM, Sundown and the United Artists Collection. All three were $9.17 each and with 3-day shipping the whole order was $33.36. I am expecting them to arrive on Wednesday. I will let you know if there are any problems.

Also, my wife just told me that the Media-Play near us just got a bunch of GL cd's in and most of them are $10.75 each. Not a bad deal either.

Does anyone know why the Sunday Concert-Plus cd is so much money?

Dan

[chris]

Sunday Concert Plus is an import - German I think - so it's more money for that reason. But it also has four more songs than the Sunday Concert album. One of them is Spin, Spin, Spin -- the extra money just for this song is worth it. I don't believe you can get any of these extra songs on any other album. It costs more but more than worth it.

chris

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"It took most of my time to do what never was done" -- GL

[J. M. Miller]

Charlene,
Your response to the "Quebec question" is brilliant. I believe you are my hero. Unfortunately, the States are becoming less and less "demanding of immigrants," thanks in large part to the pluralism and multi-culturalism of liberals (now being taught in schools at the expense of good old American history). I pray your point of view of assimilation is more widely held than it seems to be these days, or both nations are in big trouble.

[J. M. Miller]

Charlene,
Your response to the "Quebec question" is brilliant. I believe you are my hero. Unfortunately, the States are becoming less and less "demanding of immigrants," thanks in large part to the pluralism and multi-culturalism of liberals (now being taught in schools at the expense of good old American history). I pray your point of view of assimilation is more widely held than it seems to be these days, or both nations are in big trouble.

[jennybryce]

Dan, I have had an order in with Amazon.com for Sunday Concert Plus since mid-April. They have been great about communicating with me every month or so to let me know they are having trouble getting it right now, since it is an import. It is one of the few GL CD's that I don't have, so I have been telling them to continue to keep trying to fill my order. Has anybody had better luck recently finding this one? If not, I am content to wait.

Anne

[Anne]

Dan, I have had an order in with Amazon.com for Sunday Concert Plus since mid-April. They have been great about communicating with me every month or so to let me know they are having trouble getting it right now, since it is an import. It is one of the few GL CD's that I don't have, so I have been telling them to continue to keep trying to fill my order. Has anybody had better luck recently finding this one? If not, I am content to wait.

Anne

[Dan]

Anne,

I received the 3 cd's I ordered over the weekend today. In fact the United Artist Collection cd's are playing as I write this. I think CDworld shows that they have the Sunday Concert CD in stock. They seem to be very efficient, but I only have used them this once.

Regards,
Dan

[just a fan]

As mentioned earlier about immigrants, does everone realize that the " Railway" sung about by Gordon in Canadian Railroad Trilogy was built almost entirely by Chinese Immigrants?

[just a fan]

As mentioned earlier about immigrants, does everone realize that the " Railway" sung about by Gordon in Canadian Railroad Trilogy was built almost entirely by Chinese Immigrants?

[charlene]

"for every mile of railroad there is a dead Chinese man" is the saying I have heard.
And the mines, mills and the factories were built and manned by European immigrants mostly and here in Toronto that meant almost exclusively Italian. There were many Italian miners up north too. My maternal grandfather of British heritage also was a gold miner in Northern Ontario as was my Italian grandfather. They helped build this country since the mid 1800's and I for one am grateful for their dedication to their new homeland and the sacrifices they made to be here. Things are different today though. That old saying "there's no such thing as a free ride" - ain't true anymore! The using and abusing of this country is rampant by many people and it makes me want to scream at times. "Oh they looked to the future and what did they see...?" The vision is different today. "A dollar a day and a place for my head, a drink to the living, a toast to the dead.....
a reflective Char

[charlene]

"for every mile of railroad there is a dead Chinese man" is the saying I have heard.
And the mines, mills and the factories were built and manned by European immigrants mostly and here in Toronto that meant almost exclusively Italian. There were many Italian miners up north too. My maternal grandfather of British heritage also was a gold miner in Northern Ontario as was my Italian grandfather. They helped build this country since the mid 1800's and I for one am grateful for their dedication to their new homeland and the sacrifices they made to be here. Things are different today though. That old saying "there's no such thing as a free ride" - ain't true anymore! The using and abusing of this country is rampant by many people and it makes me want to scream at times. "Oh they looked to the future and what did they see...?" The vision is different today. "A dollar a day and a place for my head, a drink to the living, a toast to the dead.....
a reflective Char

[charlene]

regarding the French/English/Native discussion - I have pics from Orillia of the Samuel de Champlain monument and plaques with the info if anyone wants to see them.
e-mail me at westbrd@sprint.ca
Char

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[charlene]

regarding the French/English/Native discussion - I have pics from Orillia of the Samuel de Champlain monument and plaques with the info if anyone wants to see them.
e-mail me at westbrd@sprint.ca
Char

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